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  • #49914
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    kliyanage30
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    They can’t unless they trade Asik and Lin

    NBA Cap for 2013/2014: lets say it’s 60,000,000 (Projection by CNNSI)
    NBA Luxury Threshold 2013/2014: Lets say 71,600,000 (projection by CNNSI)

    Rockets Committed Salary after declining Team options: (Delfino, Brooks, Olbretch, Garcia, Anderson) trading Robinson = 31,412,455 (roughly) (assume they keep Beverly, Greg Smith, and Parsons)

    Add Paul: 18,688,431(max 2013/2014 salary)
    Add Howard: 20,513,178 (max 2013/2014 salary)

    Total Committed Salary 2013/2014 = 70,614,064 (roughly)

    But I think they have to trade Asik and Lin because, look at the numbers for them in 2015/2016:

    Omer Asik 2013/2014 2014-2015
    $5,000,000 $5,225,000 $14,898,938
    Jeremy Lin
    $5,000,000 $5,225,000 $14,898,938

    It would be next to impossible to trade Lin’s contract unless a Taiwanese team gets involved. Trading Asik would be less difficult, but they would loose Parsons after 2014/2015 (rookie deal is up).

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  • #794220
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    Sewok15
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    They should have never signed either of those guys to begin with. They overpaid out the butt the get 2 role players who care below average starters in the NBA. If they would have been patient they would actually have had a chance to have a big 3 with the best PG and Center in the league. I still think they are the frontrunners for Howard but I would say there chances of signing Paul are slim to none. Dallas and Atlanta also have dreams of scoring both these guys but they likely won’t even get one of them.

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  • #794295
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    Sewok15
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    They should have never signed either of those guys to begin with. They overpaid out the butt the get 2 role players who care below average starters in the NBA. If they would have been patient they would actually have had a chance to have a big 3 with the best PG and Center in the league. I still think they are the frontrunners for Howard but I would say there chances of signing Paul are slim to none. Dallas and Atlanta also have dreams of scoring both these guys but they likely won’t even get one of them.

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  • #794212
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    kliyanage30
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    i was referring to Asik/Lin numbers in 2014-2015 NOT 2015-2016. My bad

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  • #794287
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    kliyanage30
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    i was referring to Asik/Lin numbers in 2014-2015 NOT 2015-2016. My bad

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  • #794226
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    fcb206
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    not the end of the world. They can extend Parsons if they are cool paying the luxury tax. and if that gives them a 60-win team, which a Paul-Harden-Parsons-Howard core and a decent crop of rotation players likely does- then its probably worth it. that’s a roster that can contend for a title if they play well together. I think they are set up pretty well with how those salaries are constructed. They are underpaid in the short run, and their contracts have trade value as expiring deals. They would have to trade them, but not until after next season.

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  • #794301
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    fcb206
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    not the end of the world. They can extend Parsons if they are cool paying the luxury tax. and if that gives them a 60-win team, which a Paul-Harden-Parsons-Howard core and a decent crop of rotation players likely does- then its probably worth it. that’s a roster that can contend for a title if they play well together. I think they are set up pretty well with how those salaries are constructed. They are underpaid in the short run, and their contracts have trade value as expiring deals. They would have to trade them, but not until after next season.

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  • #794228
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    If the Clippers lose Chris Paul then I think they can use Jeremy Lin. Lin and Blake would be an interesting combo.

    The Clips need to do a trade then (if CP3 definitely wants out). Chris Paul to the Rockets for Jeremy Lin, Motie, Carlos Delfino, the 34th pick, cash, and a future first rounder.

    I think Lin can be their franchise point guard. He and Blake would work well together. Motie gives them a scorer at the 4 spot to complement Blake and DeAndre Jordan. Delfino can shoot and score and replaces the retiring Grant Hill. The cash will help them pay Bledsoe soon, and then LA can go BPA with the 34th pick.

    This would be a pretty good trade for the Clippers since Blake Griffin, Jeremy Lin, DeAndre Jordan, Motie, and Bledsoe would all enter their primes together.

    Jamal Crawford, Caron Butler, and Carlos Delfino gives them extra shooters and scorers at the 1, 2, and 3 spots.

    The Clips then have picks at 25 and 34 to add a shooter at the 2 and also front court depth. Jeff Withey would be ideal as a long, athletic shot blocker who can run the floor, finish, and pass. They might be able to get him at 34. At 25 they can get Allen Crabbe who is a shooter and a guy who went to California.

    LA Clippers

    Starters

    PG Jeremy Lin
    SG Allen Crabbe
    SF Caron Butler
    PF Blake Griffin
    C DeAndre Jordan

    Bench

    PG Eric Bledsoe
    SG Jamal Crawford/Willie Green
    SF Carlos Delfino
    PF Motie
    C Jeff Withey

    That’s an interesting team that should be fun to watch with pieces that fit.

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    • #794422
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      Jmpasq
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      That team misses the playoffs in the West

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    • #794496
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      Jmpasq
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      That team misses the playoffs in the West

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    • #794485
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      strobox88
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      Allen Crabbe starting over Jamal Crawford and Willie Green? Thanks for the laugh man, that made my day.

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    • #794559
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      strobox88
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      Allen Crabbe starting over Jamal Crawford and Willie Green? Thanks for the laugh man, that made my day.

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  • #794303
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    If the Clippers lose Chris Paul then I think they can use Jeremy Lin. Lin and Blake would be an interesting combo.

    The Clips need to do a trade then (if CP3 definitely wants out). Chris Paul to the Rockets for Jeremy Lin, Motie, Carlos Delfino, the 34th pick, cash, and a future first rounder.

    I think Lin can be their franchise point guard. He and Blake would work well together. Motie gives them a scorer at the 4 spot to complement Blake and DeAndre Jordan. Delfino can shoot and score and replaces the retiring Grant Hill. The cash will help them pay Bledsoe soon, and then LA can go BPA with the 34th pick.

    This would be a pretty good trade for the Clippers since Blake Griffin, Jeremy Lin, DeAndre Jordan, Motie, and Bledsoe would all enter their primes together.

    Jamal Crawford, Caron Butler, and Carlos Delfino gives them extra shooters and scorers at the 1, 2, and 3 spots.

    The Clips then have picks at 25 and 34 to add a shooter at the 2 and also front court depth. Jeff Withey would be ideal as a long, athletic shot blocker who can run the floor, finish, and pass. They might be able to get him at 34. At 25 they can get Allen Crabbe who is a shooter and a guy who went to California.

    LA Clippers

    Starters

    PG Jeremy Lin
    SG Allen Crabbe
    SF Caron Butler
    PF Blake Griffin
    C DeAndre Jordan

    Bench

    PG Eric Bledsoe
    SG Jamal Crawford/Willie Green
    SF Carlos Delfino
    PF Motie
    C Jeff Withey

    That’s an interesting team that should be fun to watch with pieces that fit.

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  • #794234
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    Daryl Morey gave both Lin and Asik a big 3rd year on their deal to scare off their original teams from resigning them. But now if he wanted to move either the near $15 million owed to each in 2014-15 will put a lot of teams off as it could push them into luxury tax perhaps.

    For someone like Asik who had a very good season last year as a good starting NBA C then $20 million over 2 years is a fair rate but when 75% is loaded into the 2nd year it could easily push a team towards tax. Also teams will know that Houston are chasing D12 so unless they could play him and Asik together, any team also chasing D12 would not consider a deal with Houston. For example if the Clippers decided to try and get D12, they might have as much chance to move DeAndre Jordan although he has over $1.5 million more on his last 2 years than Asik does as his two years are more even.

    Atlanta have to sort out the Josh Smith situation before they consider any moves, Dallas will be making a pitch to both CP3 and D12 and could be in the mix for one of them maybe. I don’t see Dallas jumping out to CP3 even with Dirk there but the thought of playing with Dirk might appeal to D12.

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  • #794309
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    Daryl Morey gave both Lin and Asik a big 3rd year on their deal to scare off their original teams from resigning them. But now if he wanted to move either the near $15 million owed to each in 2014-15 will put a lot of teams off as it could push them into luxury tax perhaps.

    For someone like Asik who had a very good season last year as a good starting NBA C then $20 million over 2 years is a fair rate but when 75% is loaded into the 2nd year it could easily push a team towards tax. Also teams will know that Houston are chasing D12 so unless they could play him and Asik together, any team also chasing D12 would not consider a deal with Houston. For example if the Clippers decided to try and get D12, they might have as much chance to move DeAndre Jordan although he has over $1.5 million more on his last 2 years than Asik does as his two years are more even.

    Atlanta have to sort out the Josh Smith situation before they consider any moves, Dallas will be making a pitch to both CP3 and D12 and could be in the mix for one of them maybe. I don’t see Dallas jumping out to CP3 even with Dirk there but the thought of playing with Dirk might appeal to D12.

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  • #794263
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    Chris Paul needs a defensive center that has his back, as well as a target for alley-oops. He can get that in Dwight Howard. Chris Paul also needs an elite scorer who can shoot over anyone and has great range. He can get that with Dirk.

    Dallas makes a lot more sense than Houston.

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  • #794337
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    Chris Paul needs a defensive center that has his back, as well as a target for alley-oops. He can get that in Dwight Howard. Chris Paul also needs an elite scorer who can shoot over anyone and has great range. He can get that with Dirk.

    Dallas makes a lot more sense than Houston.

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  • #794277
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    Coolidger
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    If they DID land Paul and Howard, trading Lin and Asik would seem likely regardless of contract situation. They play the same positions, they wouldn’t get much playing time playing behind 2 superstars anyways, and under no circumstance should you ever be paying a backup at any position 15 mil, let alone 2 guys. That’s just absurd.

    Even if they land one of the superstars, I think they should trade the guy at the same position for similar reasons to what I just stated. I.e if they get Paul but not Howard, they should try to move Lin. And same for if they land Howard, move Asik.

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  • #794351
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    Coolidger
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    If they DID land Paul and Howard, trading Lin and Asik would seem likely regardless of contract situation. They play the same positions, they wouldn’t get much playing time playing behind 2 superstars anyways, and under no circumstance should you ever be paying a backup at any position 15 mil, let alone 2 guys. That’s just absurd.

    Even if they land one of the superstars, I think they should trade the guy at the same position for similar reasons to what I just stated. I.e if they get Paul but not Howard, they should try to move Lin. And same for if they land Howard, move Asik.

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