Re-Ranking the top 10 players
This is ESPN's preseason top 10... What changes would you make to this? I realize D-Rose is out so if you want to exclude him thats fine.
10 – Brooklyn Nets – Deron Williams
9 – Oklahoma City Thunder – Russell Westbrook
8 – Miami Heat – Dwayne Wade
7 – Minnesota Timberwolves – Kevin Love
6 – Los Angeles Lakers – Kobe Bryant
5 – Chicago Bulls – Derrick Rose
4 – Los Angeles Clippers – Chris Paul
3 – Los Angeles Lakers – Dwight Howard
2 – Oklahoma City Thunder – Kevin Durant
1 – Miami Heat – LeBron James
I would obviously put Melo in my top 10, i cant believe he was not on it to begin wiith. And Zach Randolph has been an absolute monster this season and he deserves more attention. Let me know what you guys think!
He should be #2 behind LeBron James.
I don't think DRose should be ranked as he has not played a game this season(he will be top 7 when back), I would swap Carmelo with Deron Williams in the top 10 as Melo has been playing great while Deron has been struggling with his shot all year
I'll swap zbo with D wade and melo with Rose
Put Z-Bo in D-Wades spot.
I think it's becoming hard to make the case that Deron Williams is better than Rajon Rondo or Tony Parker.
I'm thinking he no longer belongs in top 10....looks like the wight room has hurt him more than it has helped the last couple of years
D-Wade is no longer top 10 IMO. Definitely shouldn't be over Westbrook and Williams.
Someone needs to point out that anyone who cannot hit half of their free throws doesn't belong in any top ten player discussion. I would start with replacing Dwight.
I think people really do confuse him for Shaq sometimes. Great players elevate their team, and Dwight has not won a thing. Personality is a pre-requisite and Howard is not a team leader, nor a player who is going to step up at the end of a game.
How is Dwight not a leader nor a player that steps up? And how does he not elevate the team? Check his numbers, his career numbers, and think about the fact that he did take orlando to the finals and were competitive in the eastern conference almost every year. He's gotten better each year. Horrible ft shooter but so what, his positives greatly outweigh the negatives... Without him out there, the lakers would be even worse on defense. You talk like Shaq won a ring every single season. He was in the league 7 or 8 years before he finally won. C'mon man.
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Carmelo Anthony
6. Dwight Howard
7. Kevin Love
8. Russell Westbrook
9. Rajon Rondo
10. Zach Randolph
Honorable mentions : Jrue Holiday, Anderson Varejao , deron willams , Dwayne wade and Brandon Jennings
Funny that earlier this year when ESPN Released that Top 10 player List,alot of you were saying this is the year that Wade finally takes the nba's top shooting guard spot from Kobe..........
Now Wade is trying to get his rhythm back,while dealing with knee issues,you bandwagon jumpers want him to retire......
I said at the begining of this and LAST year that the rankings are garbage and they mean nothing because Kobe would come out and STILL look top top 5. Personally, IMO, he has been top 3 with Durant and LBJ with his several near triple double games and league leading scoring while putting up career highs in FG%. Not bad for the 6th best player in the NBA.
Dwight should be about 8th right now. He's looking like a garbage scorer, his turnovers are at a career high(I swear it seems he is stripped minimum 4 times a game.), rebounding numbers have been inconsistent at best, and simply not anchoring the paint like we are accustom to.
I Have to agree with Iguapops...Alot of guys keep knocking Kobe saying he no longer is an elite player...I remember arguing with Y2G,he said Kobe is not even a top 15 player....But my question is what does Durant do better then Kobe? I think the only reason why a GM would take Durant over Kobe is becuz he's a decade younger!!!
".I remember arguing with Y2G,he said Kobe is not even a top 15 player"
You are taking that WAY out of context. I said one season Kobe did not play-like a top 10 player, and you didn't argue anything, you asked me to clarify. I've backed off of that stance and I've never said Kobe isn't a top 10 player, pretty sure in that same thread I had him ranked at like #6.
What Kobe is doing is amazing. I was guilty of doubting him too, but only because not too long ago, he could barely even practice due to little to no articular cartilage behind his patella and basically being bone on bone there.
There's no doubt that Kobe is still a top five player in basketball. IF the Lakers had a better record, he'd be a serious candidate in early MVP discussions.
Well Williams is clearly not a top ten player and frankly he isn't a top 20 player either. He controls the game nicely and can pass very well. But now we are the third year of him being with the Nets and he hasn't been able to hit jumpers since he left the Jazz. He's shooting 39% this year. I wouldn't get worked up about it this early in the season except that he shot 41% last year and 36% after the trade to the Nets the year before that. He is seriously missing Sloan's coaching even if they didn't get along. I watch a lot of Nets games and DWill is even beginning to get a little tentative to shoot the ball when wide open behind the three point line. And I don't blame him because really this level of shooting is not acceptable. He's got to start getting the ball in the basket.
Anyway, Harden and Rondo are both better than Williams now. And frankly it isn't even a close call.
e @Indiana. I gotta agree with you about the MVP discussions. You have to think that once the team gets back to full healthb and become AT LEAST a good regular season team( can't imagine them not playing good with Nash getting to run the show), that the discussion will begin. This is all assuming that the media doesn't try and downplay what he is doing by making Nash out to be the MVP.
It's good to see Kobe playing like this again, because while he scored good last year as a man with a point to prove after being ranked 7th, but now I am confident once again for the first time in 2 years that he is the closer that the Lakers need. When Nash comes back Kobe will still get his 25-30 a game much easier, and will allow him to be that much deadlier during close games where he can kill the other teams spirit with timely game changing/winning jumpers.
A little off topic, but props going out to Jodie Meeks. Now that MDA has arrived as head coach, this dude has really began to flourish as a backup to Kobe while also playing beside of him. He's bringing a style of play missing since 07-08 by Vujacic. Sick Jumpers of Death from the bench. This team is slowly coming together, and once Dwight gets back to full form and everyone understands the defensive scheme, this team could start to gell nicely. These are big ifs, but I'm becoming more confident that these are easily fixable ifs.
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Derrick Rose
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Dwight Howard
7. Carmelo Anthony
8. Kevin Love
9. Russell Westbrook
10. Rajon Rondo