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Raymond Felton Thinks He’s Better Than Jeremy Lin

Most New York Knicks fans are still reeling from the departure of Jeremy Lin — who was introduced in Houston yesterday — but perhaps they can take some comfort in Raymond Felton’s bravado, self-confidence and alleged weight loss. No? Alright then … From the NY Post and NY Times: “Moments after Jeremy Lin was being introduced by the Rockets in Houston, Felton was in Las Vegas talking with the MSG Network during a Knicks Summer League game.

‘I am a competitor, I am a point guard just like he is, so do I think I am better? Of course, I am going to say that,’ Felton said. ‘I think I am better than any point guard. That’s the way I am supposed to think. But at the same time it’s nothing personal between me and Jeremy. But people are going to make it about that. I am fine with that.’ [...]

Felton struggled last year with the Blazers during the strike-shortened season and has come under harsh criticism for the fact that he played out of shape. It’s not something that Felton denies, but at the same time he is determined to prove his naysayers wrong. ‘I wasn’t at the weight I [would] normally be in. I am not making no excuses, it was a lockout, I understand that. I am the first one to say, I wasn’t in shape,’ Felton said. .. . ‘I am hearing from everybody, he wasn’t in shape last year. I played in the league seven years, about to be eight, came in out of shape one year and that’s all everybody wants to talk about. They don’t talk about what you did good. They talk about when you do something bad. I look forward to this year and shutting up everybody’s mouth.’ [...] ‘(This team) is good enough for the Finals. This is a contending team without a doubt,’ Felton said. ‘That’s the way I am supposed to feel, I think a lot of people should feel the same way. The thing I am excited about is I have so many options: ’Melo at one end, J.R. Smith on the other, Amar’e (Stoudemire) on the screen-and-roll or on the elbow, Tyson (Chandler) at the rim. There are so many things you can work with.’ [...] At the Cox Pavilion on Thursday, Felton appeared to have lost a good portion of the weight he gained in Portland. Felton would not say how many pounds he shed, but when asked if it was more than 20, he smiled. ‘A whole lot,’ Felton said. ‘I’ll leave it at that. I’m ready to play.’”

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/07/raymond-felton-thinks-hes-better-than-jeremy-lin/


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haha i personally heard john

haha i personally heard john lucas iii saying he think hes the best player in the world. well if they dont have that confidence they wouldnt be playing basketball

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He was in D'Antoni's system.

He was in D'Antoni's system. Felton was almost 20/10 running in New York.

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Yeah, about 40lbs ago.

Yeah, about 40lbs ago.

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Touché, haha, but still ,

Touché, haha, but still , weight can be lost and coach can do a lot.

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Felton is better

I'm not one of those Knicks fans who is "reeling from the departure of Jeremy Lin." I realy do think that Felton is better than Lin at this point. Lin could certainly develop into a better player, but even if that happens, Felton is still a better fit with the Knicks as presently constituted. I'm excited to have Felton back again this season!

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you are excited?

Isn't that too strong of a word in the presence of you-know-f... who? The knicks are the same team they were 5 years ago with francis/randolph running the point. If I were a nicked fan I'd puke or pray that shumpert can somehow man the point.

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felton is better...

when hes healthy. but we all saw how fat and out of shape he was last season.

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I think what Felton meant is

I think what Felton meant is that he could beat Lin in an eating contest...

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Honestly I'd be more

Honestly I'd be more surprised if Felton said he didn't think he was better than Lin. I'm sure Felton could concede that Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook, and some other elite point guards are better, but I'd be shocked at this point if he said, "you know what I just hope I can fill Lin's shoes." The main reason Felton has to feel he is better is that Lin's performance was over a small stretch of time. If Lin had an 18ppg, 9apg, 2spg, and a 4 to 1 assist to turnover ratio for a season, he may still say he's better. NBA confidence (or ego whatever way you want to look at it)

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Well...He is better...

Lin played better than Lin under the same coach and even fat and out of shape in Portland he is a better player. I respect Lin and think he is a very nice player but things are getting out of control. He isn't a star and he isn't elite. This shouldn't even be a story that another PG thinks they are as good or better than a guy who had a great 15 game run but before that had trouble sticking to a NBA team. Now maybe that was based upon the fact that some one missed on him slightly. At worst Lin is a 6th or 7th man who can play productive minutes off the bench and play well. But let's not ignore that there were games Lin had 8, 9 turnovers. Let's not ignore that he couldn't bring the ball up the court vs. Mario Chalmers. Let's not act like those things didn't happen. I am also not going to ignore the good he did but there must be balance. And finally let's not ignore that even Chris Duhon put up numbers in Mike DiAntoni's system. Let's have balance.

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I think there are some thing

I think there are some thing Felton is better but overall I would take Lin over Felton. Also Felton does not have upside. Lin did what he did and is still getting better. I think people forget that. 20pt 10 ast is probably the best we could see from Felton. Now I doubt he averages that many points but should get at least 10 assists because his job will be to pass to the scorers. I can't wait to see the Knicks versus Rockets game. I know NY has the better team but hey teams that should win lose all the time.

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He is better

He is better

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Losing Lin will cost them

Losing Lin will cost them more off the court than on the court.
They went 12-5 after is knee injury even Baron Davs got the job done.
Lin is better at getting to the rim than Felton but he's not much of a defender or 3 pt. shooter.
People act like they lost a top 5 PG not the case Lin is closer to 20th
I do think Lin is a better scorer and 1 on 1 player, however he got torched on defense by Rondo, Wall, DWill.
He also didnt face Westbrook, Paul, Nash and was bailed out by Shumpert guarding other teams top PG a well.
Teams will still be gunning for him just because he's not in NY doesn't mean ppl will relax on him and he doesn't have any real weapons on offene outside of Martin.

To the guy who said the Knicks are no better than they were 5 ys ago.
If your serious you have no clue about basketball.
They had Duhon, Hughes, Wilson Chandler, Harrngton, David Lee.

Call me crazy but I'd rather have Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Amare and Tyson Chandler.

Last year they won 36 games and had no real PG for the 1st 20 games and went 6-14.
After that whether it was Lin or Baron Davis playing big minutes they went 30-16.
Defensively they were 11th on defense, 10th on opp fg% and forced the 2nd most turovers.
Offensivey 7th in free throws attempted, 8th in pt. differential overall.

The negatives 2nd mostin turnvers committed but a lot of that will be solved without Lin.
18th in rebounding but Camby, Kurt Thomas and a healthy Melo will help them on the boards.
What they need to work on outside of chemistry and moving the ball is not fouling and guading the 3 better.

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"They went 12-5 after is knee

"They went 12-5 after is knee injury even Baron Davs got the job done."

And you're going to completely ignore Carmelo Anthony going absolutely ballistic in those games and say Baron Davis is the one that carried them?

Lmfao, you're a funny one.

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Obviously Melo went off and

Obviously Melo went off and had a great month plus.

Just saying Baron Davis was the PG and the Knicks didn't lose that much w/out Lin.

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I think Jeremy Lin is a

I think Jeremy Lin is a bigger and slightly upgraded version of J.J Barea. I think he could be a fringe starter and great 6th man, who when he comes on the court his priority is to score. You can't be a point guard in the NBA, averaging 4 turnovers a game, unless you're Westbrook or John Wall, and you're adding so much other stuff to the game, and yet and still they still get talked down upon and told they need to cut their turnovers.

In the Knicks system, Felton actually played better and will play better, this year he will be motivated and in shape. He fits great with this Knicks team, I'm just worried about Shump Shump being out too long, and Amare's health and focus. Carmelo has already lost 12 pounds, and summer olympic games always seem to help players the next season. So he's ready.

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I don't really think it is a

I don't really think it is a big deal if he thinks he is better than Lin. The Knicks just need for him to know that he isn't better than Melo or Amare, and sees that guys like Chandler, JR Smith, Kurt Thomas, and Marcus Camby have talent too. If he understands that his role is to get everyone their proper touches and looks, then the comparison to Jeremy Lin doesn't matter. If he doesn't, he is going to see more comparisons to Jason Kidd and Pablo Priogioni because those guys will start taking minutes.

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Am I the only one with the

Am I the only one with the assumption that almost any PG in New York's offense (really D'Antoni's offense) just gets their numbers inflated?

I mean hell even Chris Duhon put up good numbers while he was there...

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He is better, let's not

He is better, let's not forget him and amare had one of the pest pick and roll games in the league when he was there, unlike lin, Felton doesn't look to fund his own shot as he is a pass first guard. By the way is he struggles they have a guy named Jason Kidd who can come in and take pressure off Ray

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felton is much better and

felton is much better and when he played for the knicks he consistently put up good numbers and it led to wins, lin had a handful of good games but then surely enough he dropped off and faded. felton is an upgrade at the point guard position and is good in the pick and roll ( with amare or even chandler) and wont be as turnover prone as lin was during his NY days. felton struggled last year but i feel like he will excel back in NY.

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Yeah? Well Raymond Felton

Yeah? Well Raymond Felton won't EVER do this to John Wall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiwSUxszuN0

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Good for Felton

first of all I am not a fan of Felton getting so fat, nor do I think he is a better choice than Lin. That said, I am happy Raymond feels that way...would any team want players who didn't have a bit of bravado.? For Knicks fans I hope he shows he is serious about proving skeptics like me wrong.

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I hope Felton is motivated to

I hope Felton is motivated to lose weight. All this talk should make him think he's got to back it up. So this is a good sign.

Question: lots of folks are saying that Lin's 25 starts as a Knick last season is too little to say if he will be good. But somehow Felton's 54 starts two years ago for the Knicks is good enough to say it is written in stone that he will be back to his Knick performance. The guy has been in the league seven seasons, I'd look more at his career numbers than either last year's Portland numbers (which were terrible) or the Knick numbers when playing for D'Antonio (which were good, but actually not quite as good as Lin's, Felton just got more minutes than Lin got). The Knicks were barely over .500 with the Felton team before the Melo trade, but they were young and exciting and they were coming together, so it looked better than it actually was.

Another thing, please don't throw out 20 and 10 stats for Felton. Get used to 10 and 5 and you won't be disappointed. First, there is no way Melo lets Felton (a career 42% shooter) get enough shots up to average 20. Not when Amare and JR Smith are going to get their touches as well. Second, when Felton put up his Knick numbers he was playing 38 minutes a game. As long as Kidd is healthy Felton isn't getting more than 30 minutes a game. Melo, Amare, and JR Smith are going to be lobbying hard to be on the court with Kidd so that they can get set up by him and also get all the shots since Kidd just shoots three pointers when the defense leaves him now. Kidd will also want to be on the court at least 20 minutes a game and probably to finish games. There are going to be a lot of factors pushing to get Kidd in the game more than people are realizing (not the least of which is he can still ball).

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