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  • #49939
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    ShekiruBoom
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    was wondering, what team would retire Ray Allen’s number? Is it possible to be a HOFer and not have his number retired anywhere? He played for Bucks but didn’t have that much success there, had his prime years in Seattle but the Sonics don’t exist anymore, won a title in Boston but only played like 5 years there and burned some bridges on the way out, and is currently playing out the last years of his career with the Heat. I would assume had he stayed in Boston for like 8 years, Boston would retire his jersey but now I’m not so sure which team would.

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    I could see Milwaukee doing it. He spent 6 1/2 seasons there and was part of that big three of Allen/Robinson/Cassell that came within one game of the NBA Finals in 2001. Id like to see Boston do it too but since he signed with Miami(aka “the enemy”) Im not sure if/when it’ll happen.

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  • #794558
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    FutureNBAGM
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    I could see Milwaukee doing it. He spent 6 1/2 seasons there and was part of that big three of Allen/Robinson/Cassell that came within one game of the NBA Finals in 2001. Id like to see Boston do it too but since he signed with Miami(aka “the enemy”) Im not sure if/when it’ll happen.

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  • #794639
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    fcb206
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    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PEOPLE NEED TO STOP USING “BIG THREE” TO DESCRIBE ANY THREE DECENT PLAYERS PLAYING ON THE SAME TEAM AT THE SAME TIME.

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  • #794565
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    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PEOPLE NEED TO STOP USING “BIG THREE” TO DESCRIBE ANY THREE DECENT PLAYERS PLAYING ON THE SAME TEAM AT THE SAME TIME.

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      Celtics were the original Big 3. And 3 “decent players” ?!?!?!?! You have perhaps the best shooter of all time in Ray Allen, the 2nd best (or 3rd if you want the Mail Man) PF of all time, and The Truth. I wouldn’t describe the Original Big 3 as, “DECENT.”

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      • #794799
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        PointFourSeconds
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        He was talking about the Milwaukee “big three” of Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson. He’s got a point as well, this “big three” didn’t ever make a finals, they were a 2 seed in a weak Eastern conference, won only 52 games which would put them 3rd in the East now and 6th place in the West. Plus this team didn’t leave a legacy whatsoever, they had ONE good season, that’s it. They are 3 good players, IMO they don’t qualify as a Big Three. Bird-McHale-Parish, Allen-Pierce-Garnett, LeBron-Bosh-Wade, THOSE are most definitely big 3’s.

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        • #794918
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          fcb206
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          Yeah, exactly. “The Big Three” was the nickname for that Garnett-Pierce-Allen Celtics team, three sure fire hall of famers playing on the same team. Then Miami signed Lebron and Bosh, and fools started calling that “a big three”. Three years later, its big three this, big three that. Calling that Milwaukee team from 1999(?) a big three is just the most recent example of the most overused phrase in basketball rosterbation being high jacked to describe any three guys who are solid players. Someone last week called the Wiz’s Butler-Jamison-Arenas team a big three. for real? All of the homer posters, the kind who like to post lopsided trades and speculate as to whether Dwight Howard would play on the heat for a league minimum contract just love calling things a big three. they cant get enough.

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        • #794845
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          Yeah, exactly. “The Big Three” was the nickname for that Garnett-Pierce-Allen Celtics team, three sure fire hall of famers playing on the same team. Then Miami signed Lebron and Bosh, and fools started calling that “a big three”. Three years later, its big three this, big three that. Calling that Milwaukee team from 1999(?) a big three is just the most recent example of the most overused phrase in basketball rosterbation being high jacked to describe any three guys who are solid players. Someone last week called the Wiz’s Butler-Jamison-Arenas team a big three. for real? All of the homer posters, the kind who like to post lopsided trades and speculate as to whether Dwight Howard would play on the heat for a league minimum contract just love calling things a big three. they cant get enough.

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      • #794872
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        PointFourSeconds
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        He was talking about the Milwaukee “big three” of Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson. He’s got a point as well, this “big three” didn’t ever make a finals, they were a 2 seed in a weak Eastern conference, won only 52 games which would put them 3rd in the East now and 6th place in the West. Plus this team didn’t leave a legacy whatsoever, they had ONE good season, that’s it. They are 3 good players, IMO they don’t qualify as a Big Three. Bird-McHale-Parish, Allen-Pierce-Garnett, LeBron-Bosh-Wade, THOSE are most definitely big 3’s.

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    • #794779
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      Celtics were the original Big 3. And 3 “decent players” ?!?!?!?! You have perhaps the best shooter of all time in Ray Allen, the 2nd best (or 3rd if you want the Mail Man) PF of all time, and The Truth. I wouldn’t describe the Original Big 3 as, “DECENT.”

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    db24kb24
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    I don’t think Boston wants to claim him because he bounced on shaky terms.

    If Miami retires his number it would be a slap in the face to Zo and Hardaway. Miami is known to do some crazy things like retiring Jordan’s # for lame reasons, so I could see them putting Ray up there smh. If it were up to me, i’d honor his contributions to basketball by putting his sonics jersey up in the Chesapeake arena.

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  • #794567
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    I don’t think Boston wants to claim him because he bounced on shaky terms.

    If Miami retires his number it would be a slap in the face to Zo and Hardaway. Miami is known to do some crazy things like retiring Jordan’s # for lame reasons, so I could see them putting Ray up there smh. If it were up to me, i’d honor his contributions to basketball by putting his sonics jersey up in the Chesapeake arena.

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  • #794649
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    frogman
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    For the Celtics especially, they have more deserving players than Ray. If they retire his number they will have to fold in about 50 years as there will be no more numbers for people to play in.

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  • #794574
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    For the Celtics especially, they have more deserving players than Ray. If they retire his number they will have to fold in about 50 years as there will be no more numbers for people to play in.

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  • #794665
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    Boston would have been a no brainer had he not moved to Miami. Boston is one of those clubs (like Lakers) that have had many greats so the criteria could potentially be harder than in other franchises.

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    Boston would have been a no brainer had he not moved to Miami. Boston is one of those clubs (like Lakers) that have had many greats so the criteria could potentially be harder than in other franchises.

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  • #794948
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    Tyrober
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    Very interesting situation. The Sonics would have been likely but since they do not exist what happens now? I don’t know why everyone thinks he burned bridges with the Celtics. They tried to trade him TWICE. I know they offered him a 2yr-12 million deal after that, but they weren’t exactly saints either. He had lost his starting job with the Celtics and didn’t want to be a 6th man in a place where thought he deserved to be starting. Being a 6th man in Miami is much different than the Celtics when you have been a starter your whole career and think you deserve it.

    But another question to think about is what happens if he goes ahead and plays his contract out in Miami and they win 2 or even 3 championships? I don’t think they will, but what I am saying is what if? I picked Miami to beat the Spurs, but you never know what is going to happen. As long as LeBron is in Miami they have a shot to win it every year and what if Allen gets 3 championships in Miami? Wouldn’t they want to retire his number too?

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  • #794875
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    Very interesting situation. The Sonics would have been likely but since they do not exist what happens now? I don’t know why everyone thinks he burned bridges with the Celtics. They tried to trade him TWICE. I know they offered him a 2yr-12 million deal after that, but they weren’t exactly saints either. He had lost his starting job with the Celtics and didn’t want to be a 6th man in a place where thought he deserved to be starting. Being a 6th man in Miami is much different than the Celtics when you have been a starter your whole career and think you deserve it.

    But another question to think about is what happens if he goes ahead and plays his contract out in Miami and they win 2 or even 3 championships? I don’t think they will, but what I am saying is what if? I picked Miami to beat the Spurs, but you never know what is going to happen. As long as LeBron is in Miami they have a shot to win it every year and what if Allen gets 3 championships in Miami? Wouldn’t they want to retire his number too?

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