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R. Rubio..... the next S. Rodriguez??

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R. Rubio..... the next S. Rodriguez??

R. Rubio..... the next S. Rodriguez?? I ask this because it was only a couple of years ago that this site had S. Rodriguez as its projected number 1 pick in the 2006 draft and were hyping him as a game changing talent and we all know that S. Rodriguez is not going to be a game changing talent in the nba even though in the right situation he maybe able to be a solid role player(at best).

S. Rodriguez/2005 -- For Sergio Rodriquez, the nickname "Spanish Magician" wasn't given, it was earned ... His imaginitive, charismatic, off the wall playing style combined with innate leadership abilities, has earned him not only respect, but the interest of many NBA scouts ... Owns a variety of offense weapons, but is at his best when breaking down defenders with his lethal crossover, or feeding a teammate for an easy basket ... Incredible quickness and ball handling ability make taking any defender 1-1 appear effortless ... Most impressive is his ability to find the open teammate in traffic ... He has the uncanny ability to see passing lanes before they open up, thus enabling him to nearly always make the right decision with the ball.

Does this scouting report not sound similar to a top prospect (R. Rubio) in this draft???


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Rubio is still better than

Rubio is still better than Sergio maybe even now at a earlier age also to be honest sergio is not as bad as his number would tell you just like Bayless could be putting up Westbrook like numbers on another team. The coach does not like Sergio's game. Sergio would be a better player than Benu Udrich right now. All that being said Rubio is better than Sergio by a great deal.

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rubio isnt by any measure

a guarenteed hall of famer or superstar i think his head gets in his way and might be a major problem. im also not sure that sergios been in the right situation to succeed, let him be in a make or break situation for himself and his team and he might be performing better. this concept might be kind of hard to understand since its most often thought of as a big man issue but if there is alot of depth at a position even in the nba it can be kind of easy to coast along. what made john stockton diffrent then everyone else is he always gave 110 percent maximum effort im not sure you can say that about everyone.

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Yes

Yes, he is the next sergio rodriguez

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rubio is better

rubio is taller and a much better defender. he scores better inside as well. rodriguez is really just a ball handler/passer which he does well but because of his lack of size, defensive ability, and scoring ability. he doesnt get the type of minutes to get comfortable and show off. In the right system rubio could really thrive

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Ricky Rubio/Sergio Rodriguez

While I never remember Sergio Rodriguez being touted as the number one pick in the 2006 draft, or near the same hype as Rubio, the scouting report does sound very similar. I live in Portland, and have gotten the chance to see Sergio play over the last 3 years, so I will give my thoughts on him. His first year in the league, I was impressed, he had fantastic handles and was a very creative, I thought even gifted passer. His second year, where I thought he had a chance to step up, he really seemed to be at the same level. Than, this past year, he drove me absolutely insane with his inconsistent play and I feel he should have been behind Bayless as far as the depth chart was concerned, regardless of Bayless' lack of "pure point guard" ability. With all this being outlined, I genuinely believe that Ricky Rubio will be a more successful pro than Sergio. Ricky seems to possess a certain quality that Sergio seems to lack in his ability to lead a team. I think Ricky is taller, longer, more athletic, smarter and even though he will struggle as a shooter, I doubt Sergio has much over him. I think there was a reason Sergio "decided" not to play in the olympics last year, and his name was Ricky Rubio (hell, maybe even Raul Lopez). I think that Ricky probably had more success in the Euro pro leagues than Sergio ever did, and he is also 18. Maybe I am wrong about Sergio, but I do not see him being anything better than a mediocre point guard, while I think Rubio could be a pretty darn good player. I will go by what Rudy Fernandez said and say that he needs time but he has the ability to become a solid NBA player. Meanwhile, I am just waiting for Sergio to get traded, anywhere.

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Sergio couldn't guard a

Sergio couldn't guard a chair.

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Hype = Top Pick

I'm not trashing on Rubio, but he does not deserve to be a top 5 pick. He is far too much of a risk. It's all because of the media and the hype. "OMG he has been on a professional club since he was 15!" So what?

To be a successful point guard in the NBA you need to be extraordinarily athletic. It's an ISO game, whereas in Europe the floor is more clogged so the athletic vulnerability doesn't show as much.

Here is a list of of PGs (some now SGs) that went Top 5 in the last 10 years. All of these guys are more athletic and had really solid college careers (except Livingston):

2008:
Derrick Rose 1
Russell Westbrook 4

2007:
Michael Conley 4

2006:
n/a

2005:
Deron Williams 3
Chris Paul 4
Raymond Felton 5

2004:
Ben Gordon (pg/sg) 3
Shuan Livingston 4
Devin Harris 5

2003:
Dwayne Wade 5

2002:
Jay Williams 2

2001:
n/a

2000:
n/a

1999:
Steve Francis 2
Baron Davis 3

1998:
Mike Bibby 2

Lastly, the only person in the history of the NBA to live up to the hype is Lebron James.

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all that says is that guards

all that says is that guards drafted high do well

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dlipto11, all these guys

dlipto11, all these guys were studs in college (aside Livingston) and top in the country. Rubio is not the best player on Joventut Badalona and is not an all-star in their league.

You know of Rubio because of hype and publicity and not because of his stats.

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The day ACB league does an

The day ACB league does an All-Star, Rubio will be. But if ACB does not make an allstar game, it's difficult to be AllStar.

Who is the best player on DKV aside of Rubio? Ahem...

Rubio is x10 S. Rodriguez. Rodriguez is flashy, and has tons of offensive talent, but he can't shoot and will never learn, and he plays NO defense and he'll never do. He's skinny as hell and he'll develop into a good PG off the bench to bring energy and more offensive power, but nothing than that.

Rubio is way ahead and has quite much upside, he's very clever and he learns fast. Just needs good coaching to blossom into a star for many years to come.

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ive actually seen him play

ive actually seen him play in person a few times. his helpside defense is better than most nba starting point guards. hes got a very high basketball IQ. and the stats dont show it but he dominates the court. all plays run through rubio. hes a star over there for a reason. and averages better than jennings. i think hes gettin something like 8 points 4 boards 4 assists and 2 steals a game. for a 18 year old averaging only 20 min a game i'd say thats pretty damn impressive

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All-star as in receiving any European awards. All he won is Spanish ACB League Defensive Player of the Year.

By the way, in Euroleague competition, which better resembles the NBA he averaged 2.4 pts on 30% FG... He did avg 2.8 Asts but also had 2.4 turnovers per game.

I do think Rubio can be a successful NBA player, but he shouldn't be a top 5 pick. The media hype is what is putting him in that category. Maybe it well sell tickets though.

Statistically there are at least 3 better performers on his team:

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=jov

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did you see him in the

did you see him in the olympics? what he did to CP3 and D Wills? he averaged three steals a game against the US. i dont know about you but i want the best defender outside of the NBA on my team

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Rubio = 2.4pts, 2.4 turnovers a game in Euroleague

His team played 10 Euroleague games and he sat out for 5.

Yea I watched the Olympics... yawn. He was Spain's 8th best player lol.

Sarunas Jasikevicius (Lithuania) scored 28 pts against the US in the Olympics and he failed in the NBA

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I agree with mb6297! There

I agree with mb6297! There are many guys that play amazing against the US in Olympic play. Carlos Arroyo single handily beat the US. Same goes for Jasikicius. It is because the olympics is a diff game.

Rubio didn't do anything in the Olympics. I watch Euro ball and there are at least 20 better point guards. He will suck in the NBA. I feel bad for him.

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As usual, you made some great points. I posted something similar concerning Rubio about a week ago. I'm not hating on him or saying he won't be a successful NBA player. I'm saying that I have issues w/ him being ranked as the top point guard in the draft. Truth is, not too many people have seen him play enough to rank him that high. Most of us have only seen his best youtube videos & articles written by people who probably got their information from somebody else. Like you said... Most people only know about Rubio through hype and publicity.

I've seen a couple of his games on NBATV & wasn't impressed. I mean, I didn't see a top 5 pick. I know you can't judge a player in just two games, but I just didn't see anything about him that screamed, "THIS KID IS A STUD POINT GUARD!"

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Glad to hear that tezo. I

Glad to hear that tezo. I also mentioned the same point earlier in the week... Rubio is hyped up because he is young and more so because of the fancy plays on youtube. Other than that, no one would know of him. He is not a great shooter, he is not that athletic and he wouldn't be a top 5 pick without the hype.

I said this before.. he will be lucky to be as good as Jason Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgoijMXFOmA

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