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Questions that need to be answered

Here's some question I want to see some answers too because...I can't answer them.

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard?

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more?

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing?

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors?

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12?

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series?

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison?

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub?

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs?

I have some more coming, I wanna see these answers.


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1. Besides Scoring, What's

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard? Huge discrepancy in athleticism and strength.

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more? I think teams like the Knicks and Nets could build more in 2011 than 2010 anyway, if they went about things patiently.

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing? NBDL doesn't develop guys the way it should. Should be a valuable thing for raw young players. Instead, It's more like "organized" pick up basketball where guys pad stats instead of working on their weaknesses.

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors? Because is not a true big man. He's a PF. Also team need comes into play.

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12? Teams take as much time as possible to make the right decisions on who they want.

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series? Don't know what that is.

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison? Because he's better suited to be a backup PG. Also put up stats on a bad team.

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub? ALOT of people blamed Lewis as well though. But Carter got blame because at least they put up OK numbers. Vince Carter was out there breathing God's air and floating around most times.

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs? I can't say. I don't remember basketball when Jordan played. Well, at least not when he was the true Jordan.

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1. dwight howard is a FREAK

1. dwight howard is a FREAK of an athletic specimen... not necessarily when it comes to the offensive low post but i doubt theres a player in the league that could back him down or stop him from being backed down...

2. because the first wave will most likely change the entire league as we know it... big market basketball cities have a lot of money to spend and theres a lot of good players.

3. because you can only be in the Dleague for so long... there is no minor league in basketball... i think dleague rules say u can stay there for 2 years... unsure tho..

4. i dont know who u heard that its a big mans league from... because its not... most teams are dominated by players like lebron, kobe, nash, cp3.... its a really a guard driven league...

5. prime time television my friend...

6. because there will be no summit...

7. who ever said that?

8. because if u didnt watch the games when they won... dwight dominated bostons front line with authority... while carter didnt dominate anything... if anything id blame the entire teams playmaking abilities..

9. who knows... good point tho...

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1-Dwight's just better. Are

1-Dwight's just better. Are you suggesting otherwise?

2-I agree. I actually created 2 topics myself on the lesser known free agents and dont remember getting too many responses.

3-not really sure what you mean by this

4-i think the NBA being a big man league is out of style now. Besides, when going after a big man that can be a franchise changer, you usually gonna be more excited about a legit center instead of a 6-9 pf which are much more common

5-becasue the west coast dont get off work till 5 and we are more important

6-ehh

7-source? WHo says the hornets are even shopping it. ANd who in the top 10 really needs a pg besides Indiana?

8-vince was the new piece from the team that got to the finals a year ago. He was labeled the missing piece and was gonna take the brunt of the blame if he struggled and the team failed whether it was fair or not. He had a lot of acclaim very early in his career and people thought the world of him. So his lack of career success will always haunt him.

9-becasue they are damn similar and very close in talent regardless of whether kobe is on his level or not. Also, 2000 Blazers, 2002 Kings, Spurs a couple times, Celtics those are teams I would put on par with what Jordan faced.

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how many rings does Lebron

how many rings does Lebron Nash and Paul have there esperanz? Kobe had to have shaq, and now he has Gasol. Guards win games. Big men win championships

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tyrober, you need both. How

tyrober, you need both. How many titles did shaq win without Kobe and Wade? How many playoff games did Pau win before being with KObe (zero).

I agree the big men are harder to find and thus get valued higher then gaurds. But in the end, great gaurds are what is driving this league now.

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Here's some question I want

Here's some question I want to see some answers too because...I can't answer them.

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard?
Block shots, intimidating, size and defense. Noah has 2 playoff series against Perkins and an old Shaq not exactly anywhere near what Howards faced and no one double teams Noah.

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more?
Because its June after the 1st few big names sign then they will, its called logic.

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing?

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors?
How many big man end up becoming Shaq, Duncan, Gasol, Dirk etc.

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12?
So teams can explore trades and be greatful its just 4 hours look at the NFL Draft its crazy long.

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series?
They'll get hit with tampering charges and all 3 cannot sign on one team unless they are willing to take 11-12 million or so per year that won't happen. More than likely 2 big free agents will pair up together.

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison?
What makes you think he's available, the Hornets say they are going to keep him and Paul for now.

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub?
Howard needs help and ppl have knocked Howards offensive game, Lewis was also blamed. Carter was bought in to be the 2nd option instead he was below average.

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs?
Mostly kids on here that either don't know the game that well or didn't see MJ outside of the games against the Wizards.
I wouldn't put 2000 Blazers on there that team blew 2 games in the Conf. Finals they were overrated because of all that talent. They lacked a superstar and a real leader.

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Here's some question I want

Here's some question I want to see some answers too because...I can't answer them.

1. Size and strength? Dwight is much agile and has the potential to challenge SHAQ and DREAM to be the greatest Center of all time

2. First wave coz they have the greater money and more skills

3. As far as I know, you can only send rookies and up to 3 yrs of experience to your affiliate Dleague team

4. The Nba is in the transition stage... More fast games, and look at guys who play the four position now and compare them before... Josh Smith, Thad Young, Gallinari compared to TD, KG they're more athletic.

5. Commercials, and the show gives teams a 2 min time of selecting the player of their choice.

6. I dont understand

7. Imo, because the top 10 teams in the lottery dont need a PG aside from Indiana ( no. 10)

8. Lewis is to blame for their loss. He shot poorly. Highest paid player in Magic team and you should expect more.

9. Because they are both clutch.. Ice cold blood in their veins

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so NKYK2010, are you saying

so NKYK2010, are you saying that all the people who even compare jordan and kobe are not older fans? Becasue lots of columnists who have been covering this game bring it up and make the comparison all the time. DO they have no clue what they are talking about? And I did watch prime jordan and i defenitely see them as close. Also, that 2000 portland team was arguably the best team the lakers ever beat. You might want to check out that roster again.

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Dal, I understand about the

Dal, I understand about the moving to a atheltic pace but look at the 4 PF's from the CF teams

Stoudemire, Garnett, Gasol and Lewis. The Big, post players are still getting there over the smaller guys.

Also, Detroit needs a PG.

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Also, If I was the Clippers?

Also, If I was the Clippers? I would want Darren Collison for the 8th pick.

I would move the pick for Collison and then deal Baron Davis to NYK for Curry's exp contract and a draft pick plus with the cap space add a Joe Johnson.

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1. Besides Scoring, What's

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard?
Dwight Howard is far more aggressive in all aspects of the game....even though Noah is coming along very nicely.

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more? Becasue everyone wants to score a homerun in FA....I swear the Knicks are gonna be looking boo boo faced in the end...

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing? The NBDL dont pay NEARLY enough to keep regular bench players satified.....salaries in the NBDL badly need to be redone.

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors? Potential. All based in whos ready to contribute right now...

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12? LOL...good question....thats like asking why is the 1st Rd. of the NFL Draft is as long as it is...

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series? Wont be one according to D. Stern....but we all know they will meet up off the record somewhere...

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison? Why should they? He was only a rookie last season....give him time to be consistent 1st.

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub? Vince and Lewis disappeared because of Boston's stingy defense....not because they cant hit shots....even though Lewis look absolutely abysmal

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs? Their knack for scoring is 2nd to none.....but Jordan will always be better because of the physicality of the game when Jordan played.....Kobe has made some amazing shots but Jordan made shots against some of the most physical of defenders.

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tyrober, look at any bulls

tyrober, look at any bulls championship with jordan... look at any champion the pistons have ever won... both of those teams never had a legitimate low post scoring threat... isiah thomas, michael jordan, chauncy, rip, pippen... won those championships for them.... also the big men that HAVE won championships in the last 10 years that have been great were SHAQ IN HIS PRIME, hakeem the dream, and TIMMY D in his prime... those were the only big men who won it for their teams in recent memory... and those are argueably the best big men in league history...

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1. Besides Scoring, What's

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard? Strength, athleticism, maturity, dominance, defence.

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more? Because teams have money to spend THIS season and Lebron is the most overhyped player in NBA history.

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing? You still got to pay a player even when you've sent him to the d league.

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors? Favors is more raw, smaller guys sell tickets more

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12? Because teams need time to decide who to pick.

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series? NBA won't allow it, and players know ESPN is the worst sports website.

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison? Maybe they are looking for a better deal

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub? Cause Vince is a famous quitter and he has the most talent on Orlando

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs? That's a opinion

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Jordan vs Kobe

I watched both of them their entire careers. Anyone who says Jordan played against tougher teams is mistaken. In today's NBA they play much better team defense today then they did back in the 90's.

Did guys in the 90's have that stupid hand check rule to help them out on defense? Yes. But Jordan was rarely called for charging because offensive fouls weren't called as often back then. So the defense could use their hands but the offensive players had more leeway. I think that's a wash.

Both guys were guarded by the opponents best defensive player. In today's game, I think the defenders are more athletic and play better defense than they did back in the 90's. And as I mentioned earlier, team defense is better now than it was during Jordan's era. So that's a check mark in Kobe's column.

I believe Jordan was better, but the difference between him and Kobe is so slight that it's hard to discern. The one big difference between them was the caliber of the teams they played on.

Jordan had only one other guy whom you could consider a star and that was Scotty Pippen. In essence, Jordan was the team. Without him, the Bulls would have been lucky to make the playoffs.

Kobe's always been fortunate to play with a cast of all stars on the Lakers. So if you look at it from that perspective, Jordan wins hands down because he took a team of nobodies to multiple championships. But you can't criticize Kobe for having an array of talented teammates.

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rtbt, i agree with basically

rtbt, i agree with basically everything you siad. However on jordan took a bunch of nobodies who would have been lucky to make the playoffs, it should be noted that in the 1993-94 season after Jordan retired, the Bulls inserted Pete Meyers into the starting lineup who had never averaged more then 5ppg before. He started all 82 games at sg and played over 2000 minutes as his replacment while averaging 8ppg. The result: Bulls win 55 games advance to second round and give the eventual eastern conference champion Knicks everything they could handle for 6 games. Not exactly what you would expect if Jordan was the entire team.

WIth that being said. I agree Jordan is the goat. I in no way want to take away from him. I just think it is close to at least make it a comparison.

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I think you and I do in fact agree on the Kobe vs Jordan debate. Defining the difference between Jordan and Kobe brings up an array of choices where you really can't go wrong with either guy. In the end, I don't think there's any doubt that Kobe always played with a far superior supporting cast. That doesn't mean Kobe couldn't have accomplished what Jordan did with an inferior team in Chicago, but we'll never know the answer to that question.

LLPerez, your point about Pete Meyers was very interesting, but allow me to give you my take on that. Once a team wins several championships, they develop a swagger and a level of confidence that enables them to play at a level that often exceeds their talent level. That's what I think happened when they won 55 games and advanced to the 2nd round of the playoffs with Myers playing SG.

If Jordan didn't play for the Bulls, and if they didn't win all of those championships, and if Pete Myers was inserted into the very same lineup, my guess is they would have done far worse.

Anyway, that's my theory but I'm sure you would agree that Jordan was the greatest player in the modern era with Kobe, Magic, and Bird right behind him. And I'm sure we can also agree that all four of those guys were or are extraordinary talents.

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yes, we certainly can. And

yes, we certainly can. And Olajuwon, Malone, Stockton were not far behind them. It's funner to appreciate what the greats bring then try and tear one down to try and make a case for another one.

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1. Besides Scoring, What's

1. Besides Scoring, What's the difference between Joakim Noah and Dwight Howard?
Athleticism, Shotblocking

2. Why aren't people talking about the 2nd wave of FA's more?
Because everyone loves LeBron James

3. If Owners and GM's don't wanna get caught overpaying for bench players, Why not use that NBDL thing?You can olny send players that have under 3 years of NBA experience

4. If the NBA is a " Big's man league" Why should I take Evan Turner over Derrick Favors?
Because Turner is Better

5. Why does the NBA draft start at 8 and end at 12?
So the teams make the right draft picks

6. How come ESPN doesn't jump on the summit? Make it like a short mini series?
WHAT?

7. How come noone wants to give up a top 10 pick for Darren Collison?
I dont know, not even indiana???

8. How come everyone blames Vince for the playoff lost vs Boston when D-12 has not developed the post moves he needs and Lewis was a scrub?
Someone has to take the blame, it's just how it is.
Turkoglu wast here last year and they made the finals so...

9. How come people compare Kobe to Jordan when Jordan played against tougher teams in his playoffs?
Because people always wanna see the Next Jordan, They're both Identical
6'6 shooting guards good scorers and defenders Winners etc..

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LLPerez, one other point

I'm amazed when people say Jordan played against tougher guys. As I stated earlier in this thread, two things have changed in the NBA in the 21st century on the defensive end of the court.

1. The new athletes in the league are incredible, which means the talent level of individual defenders is better than ever.

2. Team defense, with lots of weak side assistance, is far more effective now than it was back in the 90's. I'm not sure how zone defenses impact this point.

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@esperanzafleet69, they

@esperanzafleet69, they didn't have low post scoring but they had amazing rebounders and defenders that made it possible for the perimeter guys to pressure the ball which lead to turnover which leads to easy points so really Ben Wallace had a lot to do with the offence of the 04 pistons, Rodman had a lot to do with the offense of the late Bulls, Horace Grant actually was a low post scorer on the early Bulls. Also the old Pistons had Bill Lambier who averaged around 18 ppg during the championship years, the 04 pistons had rasheed who averaged 15 ppg not low post but mid post.

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@ rbt

"The new athletes in the league are incredible, which means the talent level of individual defenders is better than ever." I respectfully disagree with this statement.. Athletes now are more athletic but they understand defense like they did in the 80s and 90s.. Alot of players are lack proper footwork, they go for steals too much, and NOBODY boxes out.. I dont think players are students of the game as they where in the past and they dont seem as refined defensively.. Its easy to get caught up in the raw athleticism of the athletes that has entered the league in the last 10 years but there IQ especially on defense.... Team defense where better in the 80s and 90s.. Few teams in the NBA play GREAT defense...

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