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- Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 4:04am #68625
jonus grumbyParticipantWhy would a team give a potential draftee a promise and why would the draftee alter his workouts based on a team promise?
I do not understand the why here. Why would you give someone a promise and what exactly are you promising? A few weeks ago it was reported that a team gave Hutchison a promise and he than stopped workouts based on that promise. Lets use the Bulls as a team that was rumored to have given the promise. So a team gives a promise but what happens on draft night if a player they have ranked much higher falls (lets just use Kevin Knox as an example). Would the Bulls really pass on Knox at 22 who they may have ranked at 10 (just an example) to take Hutchison who they have ranked at 15? I sure hope they would not. So why would a player stop workouts knowing that a promise is only words and if on draft night someone falls they would be out of luck.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 4:29am #1119265
kobyzParticipantThey will have to draft the promise player, the downside is what you say but it also secure them a player they really like…
0- Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 6:21am #1119273
Cutler06ParticipantWhy do you say the team would HAVE to draft the promised player, there’s nothing in writing, the only consequence is buring a bridge with that player and his agent. There can be no signed deals until after the draft. Yes, it would put them in a bad light in the future but nothing stopping them. I agree with the OP that it’s a risk for the player, but also allows him to reduce the risk of injury during workouts, see Grayson Allen on a minor scale.
0- Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 6:26am #1119274
kobyzParticipantI didn’t mean literally, but that how the business go, you just don’t break a promise and ruin your monitin as an organization…
0- Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 9:37am #1119284
whiteflashParticipantPromises are broken all of the time in sports, going both ways. It’s part of the game.
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 4:35am #1119266
ZarathustraParticipantI would assume that now that everybody SEEMS to know Hutchison has a promise in the late 1st round, other teams may have ranked him a bit higher since.
Great example from you with Knox,there must be an history of promises that were not kept.
Thank god for the draft after that pretty boring sweep.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 5:55am #1119269
RicoParticipantIn 2005 the Clippers gave a promise to Yaroslov Korolev with the 12th pick. They were also very high on Danny Granger, but he was expected to go as high as top 5. On draft night Granger slipped to 17 because of medical concerns. But if it weren’t for the Korolev promise I think the Clippers pull the trigger on Granger.
Granger on that Clippers team they beat the Suns and go to the WCF.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 6:29am #1119275
celtics1982ParticipantA player can pick his team. So much about how these guy develop is based off the team, coach, how they use them and playing time. So getting to the right team can be the difference between a good or bad career.
For the team they want to player and feel he could rise up draft boards if he keeps working out. So they risk another player falls.
The Celtics promised Gilbert Arenas years ago, but famously took Joe Forte instead when he fell in the draft. Mainly because Red just absolutely loved him. Arenas fell to second round and went on to become a great player. Joe Forte sucked from day one.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 6:31am #1119276
ThefabulousjqParticipantThis really hurt the Sixers in 98. Larry Brown promised Larry Hughes that he would take him if he was available to them at pick 8. Even though Paul Pierce slipped and was ranked higher on the Sixers board, they took Hughes anyway because of the promise. Huge mistake. Could have had AI and Pierce together for 10+ years…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 1:36pm #1119310
ropeParticipantI think it is a vestige of the days when there was less scouting info. When a team in the second half of the first round thought they had a sleeper, they would try to get him to shut it down, so others wouldn’t work them out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 2:27pm #1119311
OhCanada-ParticipantA team will promise to pick a player in order for that player to not risk injury and not move up higher in the draft by showing his skills to other teams. Players lie about promises all the time though by shutting down workouts just to seem like they have a promise.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/12/2018 - 4:56pm #1119323
marcusfizer21ParticipantThere are promises that aren’t a sure thing either. I remember 2007 when the Bulls promised they’d take Spencer Hawes if he’s available but during draft night, they went with Joakim Noah with their pick. Bulls made the right move despite skepticism from analysts during that day.
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