[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I’ve a lot of people complaining about prep schools around social media and other basketball sites due to over exposure of teenagers, transfering, and the fact that it seems like kids don’t care about traditional high school rivalries. To be honest I don’t really see the problem with highly touted go to prep school and compete against other highly touted players. And I don’t really see a lot of players go to the prep school route. 

What’s y’all thoughts on players going to prep schools like Oak Hill, Montverde, and others?

 

[ph90702]

There’s nothing wrong with prep schools.  You get to practice against four and five star players on a daily basis.

[ph90702]

There’s nothing wrong with prep schools.  You get to practice against four and five star players on a daily basis.

[KingPapasParticipant]

Hold backs is a bigger issue to me. I see a lot of 19 and 20 year old seniors playing against 17 year old seniors. the 2 to 3 year gap is a huge advantage.

[KingPapasParticipant]

Hold backs is a bigger issue to me. I see a lot of 19 and 20 year old seniors playing against 17 year old seniors. the 2 to 3 year gap is a huge advantage.

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Alonzo Trier is a 20 yr old Freshman for arizona.. Nate Britt was a 20 yr old freshman at UNC.. It is what it is tho..I have a 13 yr old son playing 8th grade ball playing kids who have already RECLASSED as they call it twice.. it is what it is .. tho.. Gotta go hard as you can.. I think if your kid is skilled enough to join one of those top flight prep schools..I think the experince they gain is worth it from a hoops perspective. 

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Alonzo Trier is a 20 yr old Freshman for arizona.. Nate Britt was a 20 yr old freshman at UNC.. It is what it is tho..I have a 13 yr old son playing 8th grade ball playing kids who have already RECLASSED as they call it twice.. it is what it is .. tho.. Gotta go hard as you can.. I think if your kid is skilled enough to join one of those top flight prep schools..I think the experince they gain is worth it from a hoops perspective. 

[tuck243Participant]

Gotta ask yourself how many of them will actually go to the league?  Or play overseas?   You’re discussing TEENAGERS, which are kids, living somewhere else just for a minor chance of playing professionally.  Brandon Jennings was from LA, but went to Oak Hill as a HS student..   He was 16 at the time…

Couple with the fact that a good number of "prep" schools aren’t really schools.  They did a special on some of these prep schools years ago…  Some of them don’t even have a student population or class rooms.   It’s all about basketball…   They live in terrible conditions and the "prep" schools were used as fronts to raise kids gpa’s.  It’s crazy what’s truly going on…

I get what you’re saying though…  If that’s your plan and you wanna be the best, you do it.   But at what cost?  I think lines get blurred a lot with this and honestly, it’s not cool…  Oak Hill, Findley, St. Anthony’s, etc… probably good prep schools that actually helps the kid more than just on the court.   The rest?  Doubtful…

 

 

 

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Do you have a link for these specials? This topic really intersts me

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Do you have a link for these specials? This topic really intersts me

[tuck243Participant]

Gotta ask yourself how many of them will actually go to the league?  Or play overseas?   You’re discussing TEENAGERS, which are kids, living somewhere else just for a minor chance of playing professionally.  Brandon Jennings was from LA, but went to Oak Hill as a HS student..   He was 16 at the time…

Couple with the fact that a good number of "prep" schools aren’t really schools.  They did a special on some of these prep schools years ago…  Some of them don’t even have a student population or class rooms.   It’s all about basketball…   They live in terrible conditions and the "prep" schools were used as fronts to raise kids gpa’s.  It’s crazy what’s truly going on…

I get what you’re saying though…  If that’s your plan and you wanna be the best, you do it.   But at what cost?  I think lines get blurred a lot with this and honestly, it’s not cool…  Oak Hill, Findley, St. Anthony’s, etc… probably good prep schools that actually helps the kid more than just on the court.   The rest?  Doubtful…

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I personally think there is a lot wrong with the idea of Prep Schools being used for basketball reasons.  Sure there are some legitimate ones.  But these kids are still in highschool.  They should be doing homework, doing the pep thing, going to dances, trying to get their whistles wet etc… 

I think prep school is loosely defined here and I believe what we are talking about basically equate to non stop basketball training.  I could have a great misunderstanding of the Prep Schools we are talking about, but when we talk about prep schools I am thinking of something like Prime Academy.  Or the countless others that have been under scrutiny for not properly educating their athletes.

This isn’t China.  Kids should do kid things in highschool until they are ready to enter the workplace.  Next we will be plucking kids at 6 years old away from their parents to teach them how to play a game in hopes that they are good enough to make a living out of it.  It’s a backwards system.

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I personally think there is a lot wrong with the idea of Prep Schools being used for basketball reasons.  Sure there are some legitimate ones.  But these kids are still in highschool.  They should be doing homework, doing the pep thing, going to dances, trying to get their whistles wet etc… 

I think prep school is loosely defined here and I believe what we are talking about basically equate to non stop basketball training.  I could have a great misunderstanding of the Prep Schools we are talking about, but when we talk about prep schools I am thinking of something like Prime Academy.  Or the countless others that have been under scrutiny for not properly educating their athletes.

This isn’t China.  Kids should do kid things in highschool until they are ready to enter the workplace.  Next we will be plucking kids at 6 years old away from their parents to teach them how to play a game in hopes that they are good enough to make a living out of it.  It’s a backwards system.

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Nothing wrong with prep schools other than those shady pop up "academies" with questionable accreditaton. Some of them are just basically offseason AAU teams with loose school affiliation that are just begging to be investigated.  I wish blue chippers would avoid those and leave the experimentation and risk to the lesser prospects.

[tuck243Participant]

And this has been going on for a number of years.   No one ever look into these prep schools like that, for obvious reasons.    What’s the purpose of guys, who are already top players in the country, going to schools like Oak Hill?  You think it’s strictly about competition?   You don’t think grades play a part of that?

The NCAA has a sliding scale when it comes to student athletes.   The higher the GPA, the lower the SAT/ACT can be.  Going to a prep school is much bigger than just athletics.  Kids legit "boost" their GPA and it’s not just these "random pop up" schools that’s doing it.

I don’t have an issue with it if these kids legit got a chance to play professionally.   But the kids that can only get into a D1 school?   You WANT them to be properly educated.   I actually believe more NBA scouts are needed at an earlier age to give the correct assestment of some of these players.  The Ball is Life mixtapes have hyped too many of these kids and they truly believe they’re making it to the league.  We’ve seen too many fall by the wayside with nothing in hand.   Not even a legit HS diploma they actually earned or a college degree.  When we discuss the kids that make an impact and go on to the NBA, we ignore the other students that didn’t.   We’re talking maybe 50x the amount probably.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Actually these schools are looked into. For example, it was only a couple of years ago that Findlay and Huntington Prep were investigated.  The repercussions weren’t academic related per se, but they were deemed non-scholastic, which restricted opportunities to view and recruit players from those schools…but they were looked into by the NCAA.

And yes, grades play a part in it, but don’t act like kids can’t just as easily "game" the system at a regular high school.  It’s called preferential treatment which has existed since the beginning of school athletics.

You can’t force kids to NOT be dumb and ill-prepared for life outside of basketball.  You can’t force kids to be intelligent, thoughtful, responsible people who think long term. Not in the face of willful ignorance which is both pervasive and accepted.  There are plenty of 4 year college players who still failed in life after basketball.  

I doubt real scouts pay any attention to mixtapes.

TBH, I don’t really care about the kids who didn’t make it.  This site is called NBAdraft.net, not "not-quite-NBAdraft.net."  I’m here to discuss legitimate NBA prospects and players who made it.

 

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Actually these schools are looked into. For example, it was only a couple of years ago that Findlay and Huntington Prep were investigated.  The repercussions weren’t academic related per se, but they were deemed non-scholastic, which restricted opportunities to view and recruit players from those schools…but they were looked into by the NCAA.

And yes, grades play a part in it, but don’t act like kids can’t just as easily "game" the system at a regular high school.  It’s called preferential treatment which has existed since the beginning of school athletics.

You can’t force kids to NOT be dumb and ill-prepared for life outside of basketball.  You can’t force kids to be intelligent, thoughtful, responsible people who think long term. Not in the face of willful ignorance which is both pervasive and accepted.  There are plenty of 4 year college players who still failed in life after basketball.  

I doubt real scouts pay any attention to mixtapes.

TBH, I don’t really care about the kids who didn’t make it.  This site is called NBAdraft.net, not "not-quite-NBAdraft.net."  I’m here to discuss legitimate NBA prospects and players who made it.

 

 

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

And this has been going on for a number of years.   No one ever look into these prep schools like that, for obvious reasons.    What’s the purpose of guys, who are already top players in the country, going to schools like Oak Hill?  You think it’s strictly about competition?   You don’t think grades play a part of that?

The NCAA has a sliding scale when it comes to student athletes.   The higher the GPA, the lower the SAT/ACT can be.  Going to a prep school is much bigger than just athletics.  Kids legit "boost" their GPA and it’s not just these "random pop up" schools that’s doing it.

I don’t have an issue with it if these kids legit got a chance to play professionally.   But the kids that can only get into a D1 school?   You WANT them to be properly educated.   I actually believe more NBA scouts are needed at an earlier age to give the correct assestment of some of these players.  The Ball is Life mixtapes have hyped too many of these kids and they truly believe they’re making it to the league.  We’ve seen too many fall by the wayside with nothing in hand.   Not even a legit HS diploma they actually earned or a college degree.  When we discuss the kids that make an impact and go on to the NBA, we ignore the other students that didn’t.   We’re talking maybe 50x the amount probably.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Nothing wrong with prep schools other than those shady pop up "academies" with questionable accreditaton. Some of them are just basically offseason AAU teams with loose school affiliation that are just begging to be investigated.  I wish blue chippers would avoid those and leave the experimentation and risk to the lesser prospects.

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 KIds in high school still have real passionate love for bball, until they realize its all a business and they are as replaceable as a tire on a car is, usually these things are realized in prep schools or ncaa… speaking from personal experience.

Cant hate on it, the best will rise to the top and make it the rest were i guess just never meant to make it, but should take a lesson from the journey though and continue to pursue something else where they can be successful!

 

 

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 KIds in high school still have real passionate love for bball, until they realize its all a business and they are as replaceable as a tire on a car is, usually these things are realized in prep schools or ncaa… speaking from personal experience.

Cant hate on it, the best will rise to the top and make it the rest were i guess just never meant to make it, but should take a lesson from the journey though and continue to pursue something else where they can be successful!

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Where I’m from, every school offers scholarships whether theyre private or public. 

Why would you rob a kid of a chance to go to a school that has better facilities in a possible future profession.

Whether that be arts, music, basketball, gymnastics or science.

I can’t say whether these kids in american schools are getting a suitable education…but naturally this takes priority over anything. 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Where I’m from, every school offers scholarships whether theyre private or public. 

Why would you rob a kid of a chance to go to a school that has better facilities in a possible future profession.

Whether that be arts, music, basketball, gymnastics or science.

I can’t say whether these kids in american schools are getting a suitable education…but naturally this takes priority over anything. 

 

 

 

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