Positive Impressions: Austin Rivers, MKG, Jeremy Lamb, Andre Drummond, Perry Jones, Dion Waiters, Marquis Teague
Negative Impressions: Jared Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Tyler Zeller, Kendall Marshall, Royce White, Renardo Sidney
+Body Fat: Renardo Sidney
-Body Fat: Anthony Davis or Jeremy Lamb
Max Vert: Austin Rivers
you can put more meassurements
I disagree with Royce White. I think he's gonna blow scouts' minds. His biggest problem might be showing up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the guy who's afraid of flying?
I highly doubt austin rivers gets the highest vert but I can agree with the rest
Rivers has hops but not the most. I find the measurements interesting but i think people over analyze them way too much. people play bigger (Dejuan Blair, Jared Sullinger) or smaller (Perry Jones), i think the play style and mentality of players matters way more than the actual measurements, and i think its a mistake to take one player over another because of an inch. But they definitely interesting
If Thomas Robison measure 6-7.5 or more withou shoes, than his stock could really jump up there because that would make him close to 6'10" with shoes.
If he is wearing high heels. Average height of a shoe should add no more than 1 and a half inches or I think the player is really not that tall. I remember Cole Aldrich had like 2 and a half shoes and measured 6'11 so I considered him 6'10 actually.
my bad, I put up the wrong numbers and I just realized that lol. I meant to say to 6'8.5" but still with his arm length, 6'9" in shoes should be enough to be a top power forward.
I really dont pay much attention to this stuff. Its like reading a tabloid.....interesting but doesnt mean much. When someone picks T-Rob, it wont be because of his size. Rivers having a 50" vertical is not going to raise his stock.
Even if Reynardo Sidney were in shape, the drama that has surrounded him, the drama his good buddy Demarcus Cousins has stirred up since he has been in the league, compared with the outstanding play of a drama-free guy like Greg Monroe would likely steer teams away from picking him in the 1st round anyway. Go safe, why bother with a headache?
Im not sure MKG's measurements will be positive. I doubt he's taller than 6'6.
for some reason Austin Rivers doesnt strike me as a 6'4 player, but i suppose 6'2.5 barefoot makes you 6'4 so i can see that happening...i'm taking the under on Robinson being 6'8.5...interested in Davis' barefoot height...i hear a lot of analyst calling him 6'11 nowadays...btw its always bothered me that players roster height listings are given in shoes. its weird to me lol
I bet Gilchrist's numbers are like this:
34 inch vert
6.3% body fat
11 reps of 185
I think Drummond will blow teams away athletically and with his size and length. I'm not counting him out of the top pick until I hear someone else's name called. Anthony Davis has been great and has a great shot at the top pick but you just cant count Drummond out yet. Imo
You are right about Royce and flying here is the link to back it up http://wildcatbluenation.com/2012/03/16/did-royce-whites-fear-of-flying-...
I am pretty sure if Rivers had a 50 inch vertical that it would change his stock.
Roburt Sallie will measure out well. If you don't think so, he'll tell you about it.
I am pretty positive Austin Rivers will not have the max vert. PJ Hairston dunked all over him at Cameron and it seemed like Rivers barely got off the floor. I didn't see him dunk once in college.
thank you. Just, thank you.
Rivers vertical is not good people. How many times do you remember him finishing strongly or even dunking this year in game? He is going to be wishing he was back at Winter Park after he gets a taste of the NBA.
just like last yr... people caring to much about numbers.....
and austin rivers has a bad verticle??
i know its high school... but still.. lots of impressive dunks in here
Guys Duke fan here but Austin does NOT have a high vertical at all. His dunking is solely based off of his wingspan.
I know it was at the start of the season and it might've gotten higher since then, but Austin measured in at the same vert as Tyler fricking Thornton at 31....
IMO that is a pretty mediocre vert for an undersized shooting guard and explains a lot in regards to how bad he is at finishing around the rim.
I have always thought that T-rob's measurements were a little inflated and that he was close to 6'9'' or less than 6'10''..I dunno why that guy got so many negs for expressing concern.. a lot of GMs are going to look at that. I also think that Davis is going to be around 6'10'' 235. I think T jones is going to show up about 10 pounds lighter than his listed weight and suprise some people during the drills. If MKG is above 6'5'' w/o shoes it will be a good showing for him ( personally I think he could easily play some 2 guard in the NBA so whether he is 6'5 w/ shoes or 6'7'' w/ shoes makes no differance to me) If Sullinger shows up with a below 10% body fat he is going to impress a lot of people(its more likely going to be around 13%), but everyone alread knows that his body and weight are his biggest problem. Perry Jones might be a legit 7' in shoes(prob 6'11'' tho). If he weighs 235 w/ < 8% body fat, I will be really impressed (might have to kill the anthony randolph comps). John henson also wants to reach that weight, but i dont think he has a shot. Brad Beal wants to measure 6'5'' in shoes but i think he wil be closer to 6'3.'' If Marshall can get in the 3.2-3.3 range in the 3/4 court sprint and has a no step vert over 28 inches he will go back to the top of the PG board.
Athletic measurements mean a lot. We all have players that we like who have flaws and these measuements help clarify how serious these flaws are. People were concerned that james harden was too slow for the nba and then he killed the combine and they realized he was just a smooth dude. Shumpert dominated the combine and went from a late second round to a mid first (I hated the pick, but it seems to be the a defensible move). The measurements mean different things to different positions (I care more about weight and body fat, arm length and no step vert, for a big than I do their 3/4 court sprint) and some of them are over-rated. Personally I think they are a better indicator of how effective that person can be as a defender and what positions can they guard, then they are a signifier of how well they will score. Take for example tyler hansborough and Blake Griffin. Both came out the same year and tested terribly similar in terms of size weight, body fat, speed, wingspan and benchpress and while Blake is a far better offensive player, neither are great on D. For the players at the top of the lottery the athletic measurements will not make that much of a difference. however because of how deep this draft is they could take a player from the end of the first into the end of the lottery or from the second to the first round.
With Drummond, Zeller, Leonard, Melo, Plumlee all being described as mobile, athletic big men.. I am really interested to see who will test better. That is a situation where the combine results will have a huge effect... additionaly someone like Ezeli who is not considered to have elite athleticism could get back in the first round if he tests better than one of these players.
some of the names mentioned here was actually measured b4 in the Nike Hoop Summit