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Small Forward Thread Results Yesterday:

1. Best SF right now- LeBron 44 unanimous- great to see so many responses!

2. Most Underrated- Deng 13, Gay 5, W Chandler-Iggy-Battier 4, G Wallace-Granger 3

3. Overrated- Granger 7, Lewis-Ariza 6, Carmelo-LeBron 5, Turkoglu 4

4. Best SF in 5 years- Durant 30, James 15, Gay 1

5. Best Young SF (2 years exp. or less) - P George 30, D Williams 4, Aminu 3

6. Best Rookie SF- D Williams 23, Vesely 8, Morris-Leonard 1

7. Most athletic- Lebron 37, J Smith 4, Iguodala-Gay 2

8. Best Leader- Pierce 22, Durant 14, Hill 3, Battier-LeBron 2, Melo 1

9. Top SF All-Time- Bird 40, J Erving 3, LeBron 1

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1. Best PF right now-

2. Most Underrated-

3. Overrated-

4. Best PF in 5 years-

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)

6. Best Rookie PF-

7. Most athletic-

8. Best Leader-

9. Top PF All-Time-


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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- David West

3. Overrated- Chris Bosh

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Donotas Motiejunas

7. Most athletic- Josh Smith

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Andray Blatche

3. Overrated- Al Horford

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Enes Kanter

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitxki- Who else could it be after that performance??

2. Most Underrated- Greg Monroe- Not much love in Detroit. He'll be an all-star in a few years.

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer- His defense is nonexistent, undersized, can't finish inside, ugly shot.

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin- Hes playing on pure energy and athleticism, just wait till he refines his skills.

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Kanter

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Duncan- The quiet champion. I hated him when I was younger but I admire his game now.

9. Top PF All-Time- Duncan

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1.Dirk Nowitzki 2.Serge

1.Dirk Nowitzki

2.Serge Ibaka

3. Chris Bosh

4.Blake Griffin

5. Blake Griffin

6.Ens Kanter

7. Blake Griffin

8. KG

9. Karl Malone

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Best PF right now - Dirk

Best PF right now - Dirk Nowitzki, I would say Amare but Dirk played at a different level to get his ring this time should be the easiest answer.

Most Underrated - Josh Smith, if he would stop taking jumpers he could be one of the last 5x5 players in the league.

Overrated - Carlos Boozer he's injury prone and plays horrible defense

Best in 5 Years - Blake Griffin if he doesn't get injured

Best Young PF - I think Blake Griffin should be excluded from this because he is already so far ahead of the young PF's, therefore I would choose Derrick Favors.

Best Rookie - Jeremy Tyler, I believe the hype.

Most Athletic - Josh Smith, He is only 25 and it will be awhile before his athleticism leaves him

Best Leader - Dirk Nowitzki

Top PF All-Time - Tim Duncan

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@BasterdInABasket In regards

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In regards to Kanter's position, I think he's pretty equally effective at both. He can face up and hit the jumpshhot, and he can also overpower you in the post or hit you with a nice post move.

Defensively, I think he'll be better guarding Cs in the NBA than PFs. Most power forwards nowadays faceup, and many will probably be able to outquick him. When defendeing Cs, he has the strength to match up with them, and he doesn't have to worry about getting blown-by.

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk

2. Most Underrated- LeMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Elton Brand

4. BestPF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristian Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time Kevin Garnett

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For those saying Josh Smith

For those saying Josh Smith is the most athletic PF, I no longer think so. He's lost some athleticism over the years. Even Kenny Smith. I think it's mainly because of the weight gain. He's still a very good athlete, but Griffin is definitely more athletic now IMO.

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I switched it to Kanter but

I switched it to Kanter but Im sure he'll play C most his career since there arent many great options at C anymore forcing guys like Horford to play up a position

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1. Best PF right now-Dirk

1. Best PF right now-Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated-LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated-Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years-Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)-Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF-Enes Kanter

7. Most athletic-Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader-Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time-Tim Duncan. I really wanted to say Karl Malone, though

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- David Lee

3. Overrated- Josh Smith (super underachiever, should be a perenial all star by now, but hes not)

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- LeMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated - Carlos Boozer, Chicago made a huge mistake investing so much money in him

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

Some ESPN opinions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-110728/power-forwards-ratings

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Josh Smith

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Yeah, Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Enes Kanter (Seeing that he is more than likely a PF)

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Dirk Nowitzki

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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First of all Enes Kanter isnt

First of all Enes Kanter isnt a pf .They drafted him so he will play c and favors will play pf

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now-Dirkkkkkkkkkk

2. Most Underrated-Kris Humprhies

3. Overrated-Pau Gasol

4. Best PF in 5 years-Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)-Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF-Derrick Williams

7. Most athletic-Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader-Kevin Garnet

9. Top PF All-Time-Tim Duncan

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been waiting for this all day!

1. Best PF right now- Dirk = Offensive game cannot be stopped.

2. Most Underrated- David West = He's a great player for a guy who isn't super athletic. He can find ways to scorer and has a consistent jumper. CP3 will be mad if he leaves

3. Overrated- Andray Blatche = I know WizardofOz, you'll kill me. But honestly I cannot STAND him. Just my opinion and the opinion of a few others here. I was going to put KG for a second but he does have a ring and was a key reason of that chip. But still, he gets on my nerves now because I think he thinks he's better than he really is

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin = So fantastic last season and doesn't even know how good he really is. He'll be special barring any injuries

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin = Yup

6. Best Rookie PF- Derrick Williams = Honestly I consider him a PF and I think he should too lol.

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin = by default although Amare used to be sick before his injuries

8. Best Leader- Dirk = 2011 NBA champs because of Dirk leading them. Another easy one

9. All Time? = Charles Barkley = I know Karl Malone is the man but seriously, Chuck was a unique PF. His size doesn't stop him from killing opponents. He was my favorite and I loved his game

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best- Dirk

best- Dirk Nowitxki

underrated- Serge Ibaka

overrated- Pau Gasol

best in 5-Blake Griffin

best rookie- Tristan Thompson

most athletic- Blake Griffin

best leader- Kevin Garnett

best all-time- Timy Duncan

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk 2.

1. Best PF right now- Dirk

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Love

3. Overrated- Chris Bosh

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Derrick Williams (Like i said i dont consider Williams an SF)

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Dirk Nowitzki

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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Power Forwards:

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Josh Smith

3. Overrated- Pau Gasol

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Marcus Morris (even though he aint gonna get minutes)

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader-Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- Hakeem the Dream Olajuwon i cant believe none of you guys have him up here tim duncan is amazing but cut hakeem some slack .

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I would put Malone up there aswell

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Blake Griffin (this dude may very well be the 2nd best PF in the game as a rookie and doesn't get the nod because he is a rookie

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Jan Vesley

6. Best Rookie PF- Blake Griffin

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin (there is a pattern emerging here)

8. Best Leader- Amar'e Stoudemire (look at what he did for the Knicks earlier this season)

9. Top PF All-Time- Karl Malone (the consensus would say Tim Duncan but Karl could do what Duncan did and had a better face up game. I also don't consider Duncan a PF but a C.

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but Hakeem

was a center? Last time checked, he was a center and this is for PFs. Save him for tomorrow man lol

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki-Should be no question

2. Most Underrated- Chris Bosh (I'll get negs for this, but the amount of scrutiny he got compared to his performance was unfair. People even question whether the team should be called the big 3, he's really good, but ppl clown on him like he's a scrub).

3. Overrated- Amare Stoudemire (Some people have him in the same class as Dirk which isn't deserved).

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin (No need for explanation)

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin (Look above)

6. Best Rookie PF- Ernes Kanter

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan (Dude is just a proffesional)

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan (Karl Malone should get more love than he has though)

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I don't get Dirk getting best

I don't get Dirk getting best leader. He is certainly the best PF in the league IMO but being the best player on your team/league does not make you a leader. Larry Johnson was very much the leader of the late 1990's Knicks but he was not our best player by a long shot. Dwayne Wade was the best player on the '07 champion Heat but I think we can all agree that Shaq was the leader of that team.

What made us all admire the Mavs was not Dirk's individual performance but how balanced their attack was. Everyone stepped up and would hit timely shots. If I really had to go with a leader of the Mavs, it would be either Jason Kidd or Jason Terry who either run the offense or are much more vocal than Dirk ever was.

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Taj Gibson

3. Overrated- Kevin Love

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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I actually mean to give Jan

I actually mean to give Jan Vesley the best rookie PF and Blake Griffin the best PF with 2 years of experience or less. For some reason, I can't edit the post.

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk. the man just led his team to a nba championship. he deserves this.

2. Most Underrated- Serge Ibaka. There are several underrated PFs: LA, love, kris humphries, and etc... but ibaka doesnt get enough credit for his defense. he has developed a jumper also. if he continues develop and with enough playing time, he might be able to develop to a 17, 10, 3 blks guy.

3. Overrated- al horford. i dont think he deserves those all star spots. he is a system type of guy.

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin. The guy still needs to play better defense. If he develops a better post game and a consistent jump shot that extends out to 18-20 ft. the man will be unstoppable

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Kanter. i know he didnt play at all last year, but looking at what he did internationally, i believe this guy is the real deal. if ppl on this site gave jonas valanciunas so much credit for his performance at the U21, why not for kanter?

7. Most athletic- Josh Smith. The guy can fly.

8. Best Leader- Garnett - he is the vocal leader and emotional leader for his team. he might have the "worst" stat out of the big three or big four in boston, but without him in the middle, boston wouldnt have won that champ, and will no where close to a contender now. last year, garnett has the greatest point differential out of all the boston players when he was on and off teh court. this shows how valuable he is for that team.

9. Top PF All-Time- Duncan. It's down to Duncan, Petit or Malone. Duncan has the most team success. Malone's career numbers just jump out of the page. Petit is a legend: he has one champ and his numbers are not too shabby either, but i ahve never seen the guy play. To me, team success is very important in judging the best players of all time, so i give the edge to duncan.

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1. Best PF right now-

1. Best PF right now- Dirk.

2. Most Underrated- Aldridge

3. Overrated- Love, sorry guys

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Griffin..

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson (If Derrick Williams is a 3)

7. Most athletic- Blake..

8. Best Leader- KG

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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Best

Best now-Dirk

Underrated-Ibaka

Overrated-Gasol

best in 5-Griffin

best young 2yrs or less-Griffin

bes rookie-Faried (don't think Enes plays much 4 with Sap' and Favors on the team while Faired may start)

Most athletic-Josh Smith/Serge Ibaka/Tyrus Thomas

Best Leader-KG

Best All time-Duncan

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1. Best PF right now-Dirk

1. Best PF right now-Dirk without a question... that took no brain power at all

2. Most Underrated- my main man lamarcus aldridge

3. Overrated-horford is to overrated omg... espn is on his d*ck

4. Best PF in 5 years-BG32

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)-BG32

6. Best Rookie PF-kanter (if hes gnna play consistent PF)

7. Most athletic-BG32

8. Best Leader-garnett

9. Top PF All-Time-i really dont know... its between dunkin and malone.. and i honestly cant choose

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki-

2. Most Underrated-Paul Milsap

3. Overrated-Chris Bosh

4. Best PF in 5 years-Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)-Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF-Tristin Thompson

7. Most athletic- Griffin

8. Best Leader- Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- I am having such a hard time choosing this. I really want to say Malone, but I would be reatarded not to give Duncan the nod, agter all, he has 4 rings. I marvel at malone's ability to be soooooooooo good for soooooooo long. He came up just short. I'll say Duncan though, cause of the rings, but I would be perfectly fine if someone said Malone.

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk 2.

1. Best PF right now- Dirk

2. Most Underrated- Lamarcus ALdridge

3. Overrated- Josh Smith( have always thought he was overrated- a big time tweener who has no perimeter game whatsoever....)

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Jan Vesely

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan followed by the Mailman, Petit and Barkley in that order

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) - Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Enes Kanter

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk 2.

1. Best PF right now- Dirk

2. Most Underrated- Zack Randolph

3. Overrated-Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- KG

9. Top PF All-Time- Karl Malone

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- Zach Randolph

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Enes Kanter

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

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Power Forwards: 1. Best PF

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk, especially after his finals performance.

2. Most Underrated- Chris Bosh. I know people will think I am an idiot for this, but Bosh was a 22 and 10 machine in toronto. His numbers took a bit of a hit because he plays with two guys who like to see themselves shoot, so obviously his scoring went down. Don't understand why people call it "the big 2" cause he was considered a top 15 NBA player only last year!

3. Overrated- Tim Duncan. Not particularly on here, but ESPN and many of my friends still consider him one of the best PF in the league. I wouldn't consider him one of the 10 best at the moment.

4. Best PF in 5 years- Have you seen Blake Griffin play?

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Have you seen Blake Griffin play?

6. Best Rookie PF- I like Jan Vessley. Kinda a tweener but runs the court well, isn't soft, and has an underrated mid-range game.

7. Most athletic- Have you seen Blake Griffin play? (Honerable mention, Josh Smith)

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett. Just watch the change from Boston before KG to Boston after KG. (Likewise, Minnesota before KG to Minnesota after KG).

9. Top PF All-Time- I consider Pettit a C (cause he played center back in the day) or else he would be #1 on my list. But I go Duncan. Yes, I called him overrated now, but in his prime he was the man on the best dynasties of the last decade.

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Best PF right now- Dirk Most

Best PF right now- Dirk

Most Underrated- Serge Ibaka

Most Overrated- Kenyon Martin

Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

Best Young PF- Blake Griffin

Best rookie PF- Marcus Morris

Most Athletic- Josh Smith

Best Leader- Tim Duncan

Best PF all time- Tim Duncan

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It is hard to choose between

It is hard to choose between Malone and Duncan for best PF of all time. The main reason I give the nod to Duncan is because he has 4 rings to Malone's none and Duncan was probably one of the best defensive PFs of all time (behind Rodman but pretty even with Garnett and Debuscherre).

That being said Malone had the best offensive game for a PF ever, was a slightly better passer than Duncan, was a pretty good if unspectacular defender and could rebound at a very high level. Also Malone's durability and all-star play well into his late 40s is legendary; He averaged 25.5 PPG, 9.5 RPG and 3.7 APG in 2000 as a 36 year old wheras Duncan has slowed down to the tune of 13.4 PPG, 8.9 RPG and 2.7 APG as a 34 year old.

Ultimately I think me putting Duncan ahead of the Mailman comes down to one season; 1998-1999.

People often cite Malone's failure to win a championship due to playing in an era dominated by MJ. This isn't quite true however. From 1988 to 1990 (Before MJ's first championship run) Karl was a dominant force and he had quite a team around him, a HOF PG in John Stockton who was in his prime, a very good defensive center in Mark Eaton and a good complimentary scoring piece in Thurl Bailey among several other good role players. But Malone and the young Jazz constantly floundered in the playoffs, whether it was getting swept by the Warriors or knocked out by the Tom Chambers/Kevin Johnson led Suns.

From 1994-1995, MJ was on a hiatus but once again Malone and the Jazz couldn't get past the Houston Rockets in either season despite boasting the best record in the league (60-22) in '95.

Then after MJ retired for the second time, Malone had another golden opportunity to win the big one that fateful 1998-1999 season. He was named league MVP for the second time and led the Jazz to the best record in the league (tied with the Spurs). However in the playoffs the Jazz crumbled to the Trail Blazers in the second round. The Spurs on the other hand, swept the Lakers in the second round, swept the Blazers in the Western Finals and then went on to route the Knicks in the Finals giving Duncan his first NBA title...and what might ultimately be what seperates him from Malone in the pantheon of NBA greats.

For a second let's look at it from another perspective; We (the fans, media etc) give Lebron a hard time for not winning a title despite being so talented. We say things like "until he wins a championship (or 3) he can never be placed ahead of Larry Bird regardless of his ability and statistical accomplishments" Now imagine that Lebron never wins a championship for the rest of his career despite many more All-NBA campaigns, how many people would call him the greatest SF of all time. I would imagine very few, and those that would probably have never seen Larry Legend play. I hold Malone to that same standard and unfortunately for him Duncan came after so more of the next generation will remember his exploits.

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1. Best right now: Dirk

1. Best right now: Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most underrated: LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Most overrated: Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years: Blake Griffin

5. Best young PF: Blake Griffin

6. Best rookie PF: tie: Tristan Thompson, Markieff Morris (I am assuming that Derrick Williams and Jan Vesely play SF)

7. Most athletic: Blake Griffin

8. Best leader: Kevin Garnett

9. Top Power Forward of All-Time: Tim

Top 20 Power Forwards of All Time

1. Tim Duncan
2. Karl Malone
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Charles Barkley
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Kevin McHale
7. Dennis Rodman
8. Elvin Hayes
9. Jerry Lucas
10. Dave DeBuschere
11. Shawn Kemp
12. Maurice Lucas
13. Charles Oakley
14. Tom Chambers
15. Pau Gasol
16. Buck Williams
17. Kevin Willis
18. Horace Grant
19. Shawn Marion
20. Zach Randolph

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I gotta say I have some big disagreements with your top 20 list.

- No Bob Petit? Is is because he played in the 50's, early 60's? Fair enough as long as you don't consider Bill Russell one of the greatest centers of all time.

-No Chris Webber? The guy made 5 All-NBA teams (first team once, third team once and second team three times), was an MVP canidate and could score, rebound and pass at a very high level. Career averages of 20.7 PPG, 9.8 RPG and 4.2 APG.

- No Bob McAdoo or George McGinnis? McAdoo is in the Hall of Fame for a reason. McGinnis is considered one of the greatest ABA players ever and he made 3 NBA all-star teams after he came over to the NBA. There is absolutely no way that Lucas, Oakley, Willis or Horace Grant (not to mention several others) should be ahead of them

-Shawn Kemp at #11? Kemp was a human highlight reel but he may have been one of the most overrated players I have ever seen. He only averaged over 19 PPG twice (19.6 in 1996 and 20.5 in 1999). Never posted a single 20-10 season. Was a lethargic defender, an awful passer and a turnover machine (including 4 turnovers per game in 1996 which was probably his best season overall). His career averages of 14.6 PPG and 8.4 RPG and 1.6 APG certainly can't hold a candle to most of the PFs who should be higher than him.

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not having chris webber on

not having chris webber on that list is a disgrace... -1 instantly.

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1. Best PF right now- Dirk

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Alot of ways to go here, I think there are about 4 overrated guys....I'll say Carlos Boozer though.

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader- Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan, just because I've seen him more than Malone. Sorry.

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strong crop of PF's

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki (amazing shot, brilliant skill set, underated for years)

2. Most Underrated- Zach Randolph (Strong Post Game, Good Rebounder, can shoot out to 3pt range, strong, dosen't shy away from contact, can defend well in the post. not a good shot blocker though)

3. Overrated- Al Horford (this bums me as a florida fan, but he is praised like some kind of messiah too often)

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin (He's Athletic, can put the ball on the floor, shows hustle and an improving offensive game, hounds the boards and his Dunks scare the hell out of anyone within 8 ft of the hoop and inspire awe from anyone past that)

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Derrick Williams (unless you call him a SF, if so, Jan Vesely, and if you consider him a SF, Enes Kanter (assuming you don't Call him a centre)

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin (Amare and Josh Smith are in the convo, but blake is a beast)

8. Best Leader- Dirk Nowitzki (however KG, Timmy-D and Amare have all done well enough to have some claim to this title. Dirk is Just my gut feeling)

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan

10. Best Defensive PF- Kevin Garnett

11. Best Offensive PF- Dirk Nowitzki (followed by Amare, Pau and Zack Randolph imo)

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^^ I know I forgot Webber so

^^

I know I forgot Webber so I tried to post an update but the post didn't go through. About Pettit, I guess I forgot him maybe I thought he
was a small forward. I wasn't sure if McGinnis was a power forward and I didn't know if he had enough good years.

... Bob McAdoo has been listed as a center before so I will rank him there. I think he was a center on the Knicks and Braves but I think he
was more of a power forward on the Lakers.

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the only reason I didn't neg you is because you answered the questions very spot on...but your top 20 list is just turrible(Charles Barkley voice)

1. Best PF right now- Dirk...Z-Bo is close though.

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge

3. Overrated- Boozer...he's pretty much the reason Chicago DIDN'T win the east.

4. Best PF in 5 years- Aldridge. I live in LA and I love the guy, but I just can't see Blake Griffin staying healthy for too long with his wreckless style of play. I'm hoping he proves me wrong cuz the Clippers sure do need the guy if they want any shot at breaking away from mediocrity. But for now I'm going with the LA of Portland.

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF- Tristan Thompson...his defensive impact will be felt immediately.

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin, Tyrus Thomas

8. Best Leader- KG

9. Top PF All-Time- I'm gonna go KG. I know everyone feels it's between Duncan or Malone...but those 6 straight years of 20-10-5 averages for KG is one of the most impressive feats I've ever seen. His all-around skill set for a PF is ridiculous. If he played with just 1 other somewhat star player during his Minn days, I think he has 3 rings right now & this would be a much more debatable topic.

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I just can't believe nobody

I just can't believe nobody nominated Brian Scalabrine for most athletic. He combines the elegance and poise of a ballet dancer with once in a generation hops.

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I love this

Power Forwards:

1. Best PF right now- Dominated all playoffs- Dirk (Amare came in close second)

2. Most Underrated- Bosh (with 2 other superstars on the team still had 18 and 10, most consistent in the playoffs 2)

3. Overrated- Boozer (Edging out Kevin Love by .123, but that deal and the playoffs WOW, can we say John Dillenger?)

4. Best PF in 5 years- Griffin (He works so hard in a position that is becoming obsolete, Dirk, Amare, Bosh,Gasol n Z.Bo top 5? That says a lot about how wack the position is, Duncan is a center now and KG miss too many games)

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)- Griffin (It's NO ONE at this position, its WIDE OPEN!!! Like yo mama last.. jk)

6. Best Rookie PF- Jared Sullinger (O... My bad I forgot how STUPID it was to stay in school in such a weak draft Tristan went 4!!!!! I laughed so hard right now) But for real its D. Williams (He's not a 3, I'm sorry)

7. Most athletic- Amare (I know people going to say Griffin, but Amare has been a monster in that paint for years)

8. Best Leader- Duncan (He comes up in big moments throughout his career and been humble about it/ leads by example- I don't know of anyone else: side note KG leadership is OVERRATED)

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan (Sorry Malone and Barkley, you need rings to sit at this throne... Also, look at #8 for proof)

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1. Best PF right now-Dirk

1. Best PF right now-Dirk Nowitzki

2. Most Underrated-LaMarcus Aldridge or Taj Gibson

3. Overrated-Carlos Boozer

4. Best PF in 5 years-Blake Griffin

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less)-Blake Griffin

6. Best Rookie PF-Enes Kanter

7. Most athletic-Blake Griffin

8. Best Leader-Tim Duncan

9. Top PF All-Time-Tim Duncan.

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Power Forwards 1. Best PF

Power Forwards

1. Best PF right now- Dirk Nowitzki - We all saw what he did in the playoffs this year. He's been ballin his whole career.

2. Most Underrated- LaMarcus Aldridge - Great year, led an injury riddled Blazers team to the playoffs. Only to lose to the world champs in the first round.

3. Overrated- Carlos Boozer - A solid player, he can score, not worth the money he received though. Plus he averaged 12.6 pts in the playoffs... ouch

4. Best PF in 5 years- Blake Griffin - Rookie year, 22pt 15 rebs and he still can improve his shooting and free throws.

5. Best Young PF (2 years exp. or less) Blake Griffin - Same reason as above.

6. Best Rookie PF- Do we count Derrick Williams at a 3 or a 4? I put him as a 3 so I will pick someone different. Marcus Morris - I like his offensive game. He can spread the floor or play in the post. Very nice for a rookie.

7. Most athletic- Blake Griffin - Slam Dunk champ, destroyed Mozgov and half of the NBA.

8. Best Leader- Kevin Garnett - He came into Boston and changed the culture of the team. Tough to go against Tim Duncan right here but what KG did was amazing.

9. Top PF All-Time- Tim Duncan - 4x NBA Champ, 3x NBA Finals MVP, 2x NBA MVP, 20.6ppg 11.4 rpg

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This position is terrible right now!!!

Do you realize the top 2 players at this position RIGHT NOW didn't even average 10 rpg? Or 9? Barely 8? Never averaged 10 in their careers? Dirk averaged 7... LMAO..... I need a drink, pass the Courvoisier, pass it *****!!!

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