[highflyer0Participant]

I know "potential" is the magic word among NBA general managers and scouts around the league, but I’m starting to think that NBA readiness should start to become a quality that teams should consider more seriously in this era of free agency.

Obviously, guys like Wiggins and Embiid deserve to be top 5 picks because they have the potential to be amazing players down the road.  But, in many cases, when teams draft incredibly young prospects, the player will leave for another team before he is close to reaching his potential (if he ever reaches it).  

Many people may look back in 15 years and say, for example, that the Magic made a huge mistake drafting Julius Randle over Dante Exum.  But there is a good chance that Randle will be a solid starter from day 1 and have much better numbers over the first few years of his career.  There is also a good chance that Exum will have the better overall career when it’s all said and done, but perhaps he won’t become a star until his second contract (after he has moved on to a bigger market).  

I still agree that teams should draft the guy who they think will become the best player, because that’s just common sense.  But I wouldn’t be surprised if a guy like TJ Warren or Cleanthony Early contribute more to the teams that draft them than guys like Exum or Vonleh, who will contribute more to their second team.  Obviously not all guys leave in free agency but it is becoming increasingly common these days.  This definitely applies more to small market teams like Minnesota, Milwaukee, Orlando etc.  Just some food for thought.  

 

 

 

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

cant believe how quick Cleanthony Early is getting overrated lol. good lord.

but back on topic, with the new CBA, you can hold on to a player who you deem a ‘ franchise player’ for about 7 years. during their rookie deal, you can either accept the max deal offered ( assuming we’re talking about players the organization fews a a key cornerstone) or if you dont, the Organization hold your rights and can accpet any deal you sign in the offseason.

7 years is long enough for the player to develop into what you expected and continue to build pieces around him to be a contender. ( now thats obviously is the player drafted hits his ceiling,is the real deal,etc)

now a days in the NBA, you NEED a star, especially the small market teams. its vital.  so if you think Wiggins can develop into one down the road, you draft him and have him develop until he hits his potential.

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

cant believe how quick Cleanthony Early is getting overrated lol. good lord.

but back on topic, with the new CBA, you can hold on to a player who you deem a ‘ franchise player’ for about 7 years. during their rookie deal, you can either accept the max deal offered ( assuming we’re talking about players the organization fews a a key cornerstone) or if you dont, the Organization hold your rights and can accpet any deal you sign in the offseason.

7 years is long enough for the player to develop into what you expected and continue to build pieces around him to be a contender. ( now thats obviously is the player drafted hits his ceiling,is the real deal,etc)

now a days in the NBA, you NEED a star, especially the small market teams. its vital.  so if you think Wiggins can develop into one down the road, you draft him and have him develop until he hits his potential.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Well that isn’t 100% accurate. The team has options on the first 4 years of the players career. If said player chooses to enter restricted free agency that player could simply choose to sign the qualifying offer from his team and play out his 5th year becoming an unrestricted free agent after his 5th season. 

Considering most players make the most significant jump in their 3rd season in the league a team has a good idea of what a player is when it comes time to it.  That doesn’t mean they always get to enjoy those peak years though obviously.  

I think we will see an example of this in the near future with Kyrie Irving. I think he will be the first major player to take this route due to the fact the CBA takes choice out of a players career for so long at this point.  And nobody wants to spend their prime in Cleveland.  Its a risk but let’s be honest even if he suffered a torn acl he would get a max deal as a free agent still.

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Well that isn’t 100% accurate. The team has options on the first 4 years of the players career. If said player chooses to enter restricted free agency that player could simply choose to sign the qualifying offer from his team and play out his 5th year becoming an unrestricted free agent after his 5th season. 

Considering most players make the most significant jump in their 3rd season in the league a team has a good idea of what a player is when it comes time to it.  That doesn’t mean they always get to enjoy those peak years though obviously.  

I think we will see an example of this in the near future with Kyrie Irving. I think he will be the first major player to take this route due to the fact the CBA takes choice out of a players career for so long at this point.  And nobody wants to spend their prime in Cleveland.  Its a risk but let’s be honest even if he suffered a torn acl he would get a max deal as a free agent still.

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

A player drafted today should be developed by his 4th year in my opinion. If you look st most star players you know who they are or who they can be by the 3rd or 4th year which gives you an additional 3 years with bird rights. Harden, George, Derozan, are some examples of elite wing prospects that took 3-4 years to develop. 

[OhCanada-Participant]

A player drafted today should be developed by his 4th year in my opinion. If you look st most star players you know who they are or who they can be by the 3rd or 4th year which gives you an additional 3 years with bird rights. Harden, George, Derozan, are some examples of elite wing prospects that took 3-4 years to develop. 

[highflyer0Participant]

 You make very good points.  I agree that you do need a star.  I just think that teams are hypocritical in terms of their views on developing young players.  When a 19 year old is drafted, and he is deemed "raw", the team acts like they are willing to wait for him to become a star.  Unfortunately, because of impatience amongst fans, coaches, and ownership, players are shipped out prematurely on many occasions.  Many people are already losing faith in Mclemore, while many are praising Oladipo as a rookie of the year contender.  Mclemore needed time while Oladipo was ready.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Mclemore is traded next year, even though that star potential is still there.

[highflyer0Participant]

 You make very good points.  I agree that you do need a star.  I just think that teams are hypocritical in terms of their views on developing young players.  When a 19 year old is drafted, and he is deemed "raw", the team acts like they are willing to wait for him to become a star.  Unfortunately, because of impatience amongst fans, coaches, and ownership, players are shipped out prematurely on many occasions.  Many people are already losing faith in Mclemore, while many are praising Oladipo as a rookie of the year contender.  Mclemore needed time while Oladipo was ready.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Mclemore is traded next year, even though that star potential is still there.

[Ghost01Participant]

 I think if you are a good team picking in the bottom 10-12 of the first round, taking a 22-23 year old who you are confident can help your team is a better idea than picking a project.

For the top 10 picks thogh, I completey understand picking the 18-19 guys who have the real potential to be great. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 I think if you are a good team picking in the bottom 10-12 of the first round, taking a 22-23 year old who you are confident can help your team is a better idea than picking a project.

For the top 10 picks thogh, I completey understand picking the 18-19 guys who have the real potential to be great. 

[burgessfourParticipant]

 Of a guy that took a while to rise. Chauncey Billups, drafted in 1998 did not become the stud he was until 2002/2003 with his 5th team, the pistons.

 

[burgessfourParticipant]

 Of a guy that took a while to rise. Chauncey Billups, drafted in 1998 did not become the stud he was until 2002/2003 with his 5th team, the pistons.

 

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