(Please Post!!!!)Mock Draft 3.5 Picks, Now updated and commentary and more Trade talk
Mock 1-15 picks and commentary..more trade talk and team talk..tell me what u think!!! and Once again, please post!!!
1.Clippers-Blake Griffin- Griffin could be another Karl Malone. Griffin could be a star, but can he improve him game enough to be a 25-15 guy?
2.Memphis-Ricky Rubio( Traded to Sacramento)- We know Memphis will taking Rubio but he wont go there. Sacramento makes a play and gets him...He will help Martin, Greene, Hawes, Nocioni and Thompson all improve their games.
3.Oklahoma City-Hasheem Thabeet- OKC needs a big man and Thabeet could supply Defensive help and a big man for Westbrook to throw in to.
4.Sacramento-Jordan Hill (Traded to Memphis)-Hill could be a 20-10 guy. But not for Sacramento. At Memphis, Conley,Mayo, Arthur,Gay, Gasol and Hill will for form a young nucleus.
5.Washington- James Harden- Harden could be a excellent backcourt mate with Gil. He could create and score. Expect him to be a stud by year 3.
6.Minnesota- Jrue Holiday- Im going back with my original pick. I hear Minnesota may look at Hinrich, still Holiday could be the pick. He can shoot and could play solid D. A La Russel Westbrook.
7.GS- Brandon Jennings- A selfish, pass 1st PG who could score? Never heard of this before. Jennings and Ellis could be the NBA's fastest backcourt with the best passing ability.
8.New York-Stephen Curry- Lock. I dont approve of this but Curry can shoot and he played the 1. Perfect fits for Mike Dantoni's O.
9.Toronto-DeMar DeRozan- DeRozan could help Bosh and give him a wing who can play. DeRozan's issue is his shooting. Give him a solid year, he will be a good, solid player.
10.Milwaukee- Earl Clark-Clark could help the Bucks alot. He could play the 3 and in the east, could dabble at the 4. His passing ability makes him a high upside player.
11.New Jersey- Tyreke Evans- Evans can replace VC at the 2 and with Harris,Evans and VC as your 1-2-3, you have a solid backcourt with some good players in the frontcourt( Yi, Williams,Boone, Lopez)
12-Charlotte- Gerald Henderson-He can defend,shoot and drive. He could be a solid player for the Bobcats. Expect him to be a good player early.
13.Indiana-Eric Maynor-Maynor over Flynn, Teague and Lawson. He can play very well. Not the highest upside but he can lead a team with a couple of good shooters ( Rush and Granger) and a big man he can run the pick and roll with (Hibbert)
14.Phoenix-Jonny Flynn-Flynn could be a star.He has heart and ability. He could be a good PG right away but will his hieght (5-10) prevent him from being a star?
15. Detroit- Austin Daye- He has high upside, excellent jumper and can work as a 3 or a 4 man. Trust me he will make a team great as a 7th man early and a good starter in his prime.
hawks need a pg
Atlanta needs alot...they will have only 7 guys on there roster next season, they will need a backup PG.
This one is really well done, one of the best I seen. Although I don't think the last 5 picks in the first round will all go to SF, I say Dionte gets picks ahead of one of them at least, maybe Casspi will slip to the 2nd round. I'm also not sold Derrick Brown as a player who can contribute to the NBA career wise, but thats just my opinion.
Since I follow Utah, is good to see them getting Blair to replace Boozer, while in the 2nd round...They should get AJ Price over Vasquez as their back up point guard since Price can really feed into the sort of style that D-Will plays...and give the Jazz control of the tempo all 48 minutes long on the court.
1st off Thank you...thats my goal...i think i will try to make 2 two more mocks by the time the draft comes around.
I know...i think im gonna retool my 2nd round later...I like Price becuse he knows how to work with big man really well.
Vasques is a mystery to me. He is more of a SG trying to be a PG.
You did a good job. I only have two concerns. I thought that the Pacers already had T.J Ford. What is the need for Jonny Flynn? Also, Many people project that the Suns get Flynn. Great Mock tho. P.S Jeff Teague might withdraw as well
Yea...i think Flynn is tougher, Ford at Texas was a good jump shooter who beat alot of people with his speed. Flynn will drive alot and is stronger
Teague should stay in the Draft. If he goes back, he will be a late 1st rounder because of all this talent coming in.
i like it but I don't think the pacers need flynn either,T.J Ford is indiana's point guard of the future and secondly I don't like evans to minnesota because DeRozan is better now and will be a star in the future plus minnesota needs a scorer who can sell tickets
i thinking about changing Flynn and Maynor so be on the look out for that
No. Evans is way better than DeRozan right now. DeRozan could be a bigger star in 4 years. But DeRozan has no jumper to speak of and is a average rebounder.
Evans brings more to the table because he can play PG, he has good dribbling skills and he is the best driver in this draft. He also has a better jumper than derozan right now.
DeRozan = Vince Carter clone ( my projected rookie stats for him- 12 ppg, 4rpg, 3apg)
Evans = McGrady type ( My projected stats - 13 ppg, 5rpg, 4 apg)
what are you talking about? nets got brook lopez at 10th last year
Im sorry but look at this list....
08- Lopez- could be a top 5 C by next season ( but then again, they could had had Randolph)
08- Anderson- not bad
07-Sean Williams- he went before Big Baby, Carl Landry and Dequan Cook
06-Marcus Williams- Cut
06-Josh Boone- Bench man
05-Antoine Wright- could have had Granger and Monta Ellis
04-Victor Khryapa- could have had Kevin Martin
03-Zoran Plannic- Could have had Josh Howard, Travis Outlaw, Perkins, Barbosa, MO williams
In your first mock didn't you say Jennings can shoot and now you say his shot is a question? Also Griffin a 30/20 guy. That's not possible unless he's going to be the greatest player of all time. Overall a good mock though. Enjoyable to get your take on things.
No you are right, i was watching alot of his HS games and like 2 or 3 of his euro game where he lit up. Then, a friend of mine sent me some games where he looked like a bad version of Starbury....not good. I had to do some more HW, and i got the memo : he is not a nba ready shooter.
Mayne 30-20 is alot? But thats my question. I think for 10 years, he could be a 20-10-2(blocks) guy. But can he step it up? Can he develop his game into Karl Malone...Charles Barkley?
Cant see Hill go 2 though
Hey is you wind up being right I can understand but a lot of your picks did not make sense to me even with your reasoning. Also despite Jenning seemingly me first rep he is a great passer and being in Europe has helped his game. Why would Sacramento take Harden. He can not be a point guard and they have a great shooting guard in Kevin Martin who is too small to play Small forward. Harden is not a good pick unless they trade him for a veteran they need. Knicks will get Curry unless he is taken earlier. Chase has been looking good in workouts but Milwaukee will grab a point guard or a big unless Harden falls.
Hill is really high at 2. You also put Jrue Holiday and James Johnson kinda low. They will go higher than where you put them, garunteed. I think, and QHaynes will agree with me, that Memphis will draft Rubio, but only as trade bait to places like Phoenix and Sacramento. Hill is NOT going to Memphis. They have already expressed that they are not interested in him and they are going to target something different. To be honest, your mock makes little sense EuroBall.
True, I never said Europe did not help his game. Jennings is a me 1st guy and is a great passer
Sacramento should take Harden because Martin is not young. They have the 23rd pick in the 1st round, why not take Harden who could be the 2nd coming of Paul Pierce and Patty Mills ( who before he got hurt he was a mid 1st rounder)? Even if they take Harden, he could help there bench as a 6th man. They could also Trade Martin
The Knicks should not take Curry if they want a PG, im telling you.
Chase would be a solid pick for the Bucks. They are in a bad spot if they want a big man. They should try to trade down. Blair, Mullens, Daye and Lawal are more mid-teens to late 1st type guys. They shouldnt reach at 10. And also, I have them taking a big man in round 2, they know how to develop players ( Redd and Sessions come to mind)
Yea, thats the only reason why i have Rubio there
Kevin Martin can play the 3...he's 6-7
Rubio nor his agent has said Rubio doesnt want to go to Memphis. That was just an internet rumor.
Come on..he doesnt have to say it...hes a superstar in spain...i would nt wanna go from spain to memphis...
that kind of thinking is exactly how the false rumor got started
And he doesnt have to live in Memphis. He can live in one of the nicer areas outside of the city
Because you take harden at 4 if Sacramento doesn't get Rubio there screwed. Kevin Martin can't play small forward cause he is a Ray Allen Type of player. Can Ray Allen Play small foward? No! Harden is not the seconded coming of Paul Pierce as Paul is bigger and taller then Harden. I do like the Tyreke Evans being a Tracy McGrady type player but does he play off the ball well? Memphis had to make him point guard for him to be efficient. Hill shouldn't go to wizards because Jamison is a better player then Hill and unless they can get a good young center then why? And then if your trading to get under cap why do you settle for a OK team. I think you should either push for contender or rebuild
No.... Sacramento could trade Martin and Draft Harden
Martin for Ramon Sessions? That way you get a PG who can be a playmaker.
No they would not be screwed, Rubio is a PG, they could try to get a John Wall or Willie Warren next season.
Evans can play off the ball well, the problem is his jumper. They moved him to PG because they had noone that could bring the ball up.
Jamison is older and still has value. Hill is more of a pure PF. Jamison is a 3 who can play 4, trade him and try to build a new frontcourt.
He is 6-7 185 pounds.
Isnt Flynn listed at 186 pounds? This mean Flynn can play Sf? Its not just higher. Come on now.
He's lanky...so it Prince..give him some time to grow into the position
I agree with you lots. But there defense line with Jamison at 3 would be horrible match ups at Cav's Magic. Sessions would be a great trade. I do disagree with you though in that Evans playing off the ball is limited cause most playing off the ball is shooting and if you can't shoot you can't get to the basket.
I respect everyone's opponent, and y'all do have some solid points. My Mock Draft is only a prediction of were some players can have a average or good career. Jordan Hill going to Memphis is good for many reasons. First, he's a power forward with great upside to his Game. Second, he's the second best power forward on the board and Memphis need a power forward and that's a position were their team lack. Finally, Jordan Hill is compared to Bosh that's Good, remember this Bosh was compared to Tim Duncan at the time, Tim was the best power forward in the league, Hill is being compared to Bosh is only a little to expect and I will never past on that if I'm a GM. To me Hill is more Physical than Bosh so look out for him. I strongly agree Ricky Rubio is the second best prospect in the draft. But I can't see him on Memphis, Sacramento is the prefect fit for him. Ricky need to be in a place where he can adopt to like Arco arena similar to Spain and Europe.
I made some movement up and down and added some guys in there to.
Yea. Evans he could not shoot with a high volume. He was better with the ball because he can create his own shot ( although he had trouble shooting)
Jamison for his price tag and age, you can trade him and get value.
Gerald Henderson be a great fit for New Jersey? I meen he is a slasher and with Harris, Vince and especially the amazing Brook Lopez. But isn't he only 6-4? if he was 6-8 he would be good fit for them? Idk
I like Henderson at NJ. My only question is can VC play the 3
About Kevin Martin i thought of a great deal for the kings and Suns
Martin, 23rd pick to Phx for Nash and future 1st rounder?
noone post on this im gonna Change up the players orders!!!!!
Now please post and share thoughts..
I love the trade between Sacramento and Memphis but i was wondering who else would be involved in such a trade that I feel for Sacramento is getting ripped off? I also am wondering why you put Jennings at Washington i feel Gilbert needs a center and that would mean a trade to Thunder for James Hardin. I do not think Minnesota needs James Harden they already have Foye and Miller they need a point guard or small forward. I like Demar at Toronto because Toronto will ultimatley lose all its good players just because there in Canada (its the sad truth) so why not do high risk.
The trade would probably be
Rubio, Arthur to Sac for Hill and 23rd pick? Sacramento has all the leverage in the deal.
I thought Jennings would be a good fit for Washington because they need a guy who set up Arenas, Butler and the young guys on the bench. Although he is a ME- first guy, he can be a good passer.
I think they should take Harden because the top 2 PG's would be off the board (Rubio and Jennings) and Foye is best off the bench. They can get a good PG at 18 (Holiday, Teague or Lawson) and a SF at 28 (Summers, Cappsi) or in round 2.
I said it before, I say it again : They should move The raptors to Kansas City or Seattle
QHaynes, are you a Kings fan?
a knicks fan...why?
Is it about the Trade?
Think about it? If im Sacramento with the 4th, 23rd and 31st picks I can take a PG. Memphis takes Rubio so what? I cant easily take Jennings at 4...trade down and Take Holiday or even take Mills, Teague, Lawson or even Maynor at 23...
The Trade makes since for both teams memphis though will be getting ripped off. I would say they could add Hawes in to sweeten up the deal or somebody but i doubt that will happen. Memphis got stuck with a pick that was higher then what they needed
"Memphis got stuck with a pick that was higher then what they needed"
How does that even make sense?
KD rocks- No way they add Hawes....
Allen- they didnt need a top 3 pick....
Still dont understand. They dont need the second best player in the draft?
you forgot about tyler hansbrough, where is he on the mock?
Allen- yea. hey need Earl Clark, not rubio. Maye they trade down?
i dont think Hansbrough gets drafted......
someone will draft Hansbrough. He could end up as a steal in the second round
You don't think Hansbrough gets drafted???
He'll be a late first round pick, early second round pick at worst...you think eric devendorf has a better chance of getting picked than hansbrough?? come on
hansbrough = Mark Madsen 1.5
Earl Clark? For what? To Back up Rudy? The Grizzlies need talent. They need the second most talented player
If you had like the 6 or 7th pick....you could take Clark.
Then trade Conley, Gay and maybe a future 1st for Stoudemire and Tucker.
Then at 27 you could have grab a Patty mills
at 35 take a Toney Douglas or Dionte Christmas.