Which Players do you guys think have the most to Gain/Lose depending on Combine measurements?
I think Jimmer would be really hurt if he measured at 6'0 or 6'1 with a short wingspan. I think that would pretty much rule out any team thinking he can play 2 guard. On the other side of it, if he comes out around 6'3 or so in shoes, he should stay in the lottery.
Enes Kanter looks about 6'8 to me, and if thats what he measures, he will probably slip a bit. If he is a legit 6'10, with a good wingspan, he might reenter the picture for top pick.
Darius Morris will probably skyrocket if he measures at a legit 6'4. He looks about 6'2 to me.
I've seen Chris Singleton in person a few times and think he might be close to 6'10. He is a guy that has alot of wow factor as far as layup line scouting goes, which is what the combine is all about.
Also, If Jeremy Tyler has legit Center size, he become a first round lock. Not sold on his game as a PF. He has alot to gain or lose because he will be drafted mostly as a measurables guy.
Who else are you looking forward to seeing some measurements on?
What do you think Tyler will measure?
When I look at Tyler he looks like he has a very similar build and size as Daniel Orton. With Tyler being a pretty thick guy who can add some strength as he matures I think if he's 6'10'' with a big wingspan he'll be considered a good size for a center.
Which Playoff candidates do you see him possibly going to. I'm quite sure Boston is a favorite.
Tobias Harris- If he's closer to 6'6 and can't play PF at next level.
Morris Twins- If their wingspans are as short as people say they are and their heights measure around 6'7 6'8ish they would be limited in terms of playing PF
Iman Shumpert- Could measure higher than people expect making him perfect to put next to a scoring point guard
Josh Selby- Same as Jimmer ^ (stood next to him, no way he's 6'3) but also could rise due to vertical leap
Waiting measurements on all of those combo forwards, morris, harris, williams, singleton, harper.
Think Thompson will definitly lack an inch to be a top 10 pick.
Think thompkins is a legit 6'10 in shoes and he'll be a valuable back up PF in the 20's.
Yeah, Boston lost Perkins and Erden, so they could be a possibility. I could also see Miami rolling the dice on him at #31. I think Pittman will eventually crack their roster next year, he played well in the D-League and with Big Z most likely retired and I doubt Mags or Dampier will both be back they'll be room for them to bring in another big and give Tyler a shot if he's still around. He still has a lot of upside so that pick could end up being a steal for Miami.
- Iman Shumpert- Has the wingspan that will help his cause.
- Josh Selby- Hope he gets back to HS playing shape because he will measure 6'1'' 205
- Scotty Hopson- Will not measure 6'7''
Look 6'8? He just, has that kind of 6'8 look to him? I mean, last year at the Hoop Summit, he looked taller than Jared Sullinger, who I am pretty sure is atleast 6'8. Again, these numbers may not be exact, but I am guessing Kanter is at the very least 6'10 with shoes on.
If you look at this, if you can since I have problems posting it, he measured at 6'11 and 260.
Darius Morris should be around 6'4, he definitely seems to be taller than most PG's, I do not know how he looks that much shorter than listed. Measurements are however you take them, and I think teams are learning to temper exactly what they mean. Wish people here would do a bit of the same thing and realize that these measurements only mean so much in comparison to the players they are going up against. I do not think that stock is affected by measurements as heavily as people believe, at least not anymore since I think more and more teams are learning exactly what all of these tests and measurements mean in context to these players actual abilities.
Things that will hurt people's stock:
- Tristan Thompson measuring shorter than 6'8.5'' w/shoes on
- Markieff Morris measuring shorter than 6'9'' w/shoes on
- Travis Leslie measuring 6'2'' barefoot would put him at only 6'3.25'' with shoes on
- Kemba Walker standing under 6'0'' w/ shoes on
- Tyler Honeycutt weighing under 185 lbs.
- Cory Joseph measuring under 6'1'' w/out shoes on.. would only put him at about 6'2'' wit shoes on
- Josh Selby measuring under 6'1'' w/out shoes on
- Jordan Williams weighing more than 270 lbs.
Who will have the longest wingspan?
Travis Leslie is definitely gonna be 6'2 or even 6'1 and some change barefoot. I've seen him in person and he's 6'3 and some change with shoes it seems. That might not be enough for him to be a 1st round pick, but who knows.
Shumpert has nothing at stake. All the teams know Shumpert has great physical ability for either guard position, and he's a solid athlete.
I think LaceDarius Dunn could get himself some 2nd round looks if he has a good combine. He's not as unathletic as he often plays, and he seems to have a decent wingspan and level of strength. He has fallen off the map as a prospect after a year where he was a bit of a ballhog for an underachieving Baylor team, but Dunn was a possible 1st round pick last year. A good combine will get him legit draft consideration, considering his scoring accomplishments. Look out for him.
Kembas height can become important, under 6ft and he might find himself slowly slipping towards the lower end of the lottery
Jereme Richmond is a combine underdog, hes young, hes athletic, a great combine might make a good team in the late first take a chance on him and attempt to develop him for the future..
Of people at the actual combine, probably Lucas Nogueira, since we already know his is 7'6, and that is usually enough to win it in most years. Biyombo has a 7'7 wingspan, as we are all painfully aware, and that is probably the longest in the draft. Jeremy Tyler has long arms as well, but not as long as either of those guys. JaJuan Johnson has really long arms, he should measure fairly well.
I think Reggie Jackson has a pretty freakish wingspan for the guards, and Shumpert has solid length. I have a feeling that we will find out all of these things in a few days. I would not be surprised to see Tristan Thompson measure at slightly below 6'9, but he has good length to counter balance. Kenneth Faried probably has a big wingspan, as does Kawhi Leonard. Again, all of these should be tempered with these guys abilities as basketball players.
MikeyV what do you think of Charles Jenkins??
I take the 205lbs. back!!!!!!! I just seen the Selby video on the other Thread. He looks to be back into HS shape, he really has been in hiding, because he shedded a lot of pounds. He was showing the explosion he lacked while at Kansas. I still say 6'1'' for him with probably a 37-38ish vert.
Is it not a forgone conclusion that Kemba will be under 6' barefoot?
i have no idea, i just think if he measures under 6'0'' WITH shoes on, it will hurt his stock a tad bit...thiink about it, thatd be 5'10'' barefoot, and 5'11.5'' w/shoes on, thats short man!
Kanter is 6'8"?
Looks like a seven footer or close to it. He measured 6'11" and 260 last summer, he's a young kid and might have grown a little. 7'1" wingspan. Pretty good. I think he's a great prospect. Love the Jazz to get him or Irving, if his knees are ok. If your team doesn't want him because he's too short, the Jazz will take him.
Jimmer is a legit 6'2" with shoes, maybe a little over. Decent but not great wingspan, maybe 6'4 or 6'5 wingspan. 36 inch vertical, quicker than most guess. He'll be a surprise at the combine with his athletic ability. Good workouts is what will help Jimmer, especially on defense.
Tristan Thompson needs every bit of wingspan and height. He must play PF but has little outside skills, so the more length the better. If he's a legit 6'9" with shoes, he's a top ten pick for sure.
Kemba Walker will be interesting. I'd guess he's barely over 6' with shoes on. Maybe. Don't think it will hurt him too much, everyone knows he's short.
I've heard the Morris twins, esp. Marcus, have t-rex arms. Hope not. Doesn't look like it, I'm warming up on them. Marcus is going to be a lot better than most think. I'm high on him.
Nikola Vucevic, there is no way he is 6'10, I'm sure he will measure 6'11 or even near to 7ft, he looks really big. It looks like he has a good wingspan too
Seems like a smart, undersized SG. He has a nice shot and shows some nice versatility on offense, but as an undersized 2, defense could be a struggle. You always have to wonder about guys who were kind of one man shows in college, and he will have to adjust to a much different role in the NBA, more than likely off of the bench. Also, he may have to adjust to being more of a distributor, which will be easier said than done. Still, he is a talented player and seems to be a hard worker, he was a very efficient player in college and shows a very nice stroke.
I like him as a late first or early second rounder, he separates himself from another talented undersized SG like Andrew Goudelock due to his athleticism and ability to penetrate. He should measure at 6'2 or 6'3, and everything else will be up to the teams vision of how they are going to use him. Seeing that he is probably going to a team in the late first, he more than likely will be expected to score off of the bench, which is a role he could possibly excel at. He seems like a probable role player and little more than that, which is actually solid value if he is a late first round pick.
some player can still be good and not have long wingspans. I think Blake Griffin wingspan is not that impressive and just barely over his height. There are a few players that could lose spot due to height and length but in this draft you will tend to go for the guy you know is good unless someone just shoots out of nowhere. I am sure that some players will rise and fall a bit when they do the combine though. Brooks should rise. Dunn should get back on the map. If Kemba can measure 6'1" with shoes does that make him top 5. That is a thought. Chris Paul is said to be a tad below 6 foot without shoes and not really his 6'2" height but you can make an arguement that he is the best point guard in the game. Also does Dallas take Morris or Lee to be Kidd understudy and then replacement.