Pistons make another offer for Rajon Rondo...
Pistons are still trying to lure Rajon Rondo from the celtics....
This time they offered Brandon Knight and some expiring contracts for him.
I'm not a Knight fan by any means but with that roster I rather have him to provide shooting. They already lack spacing and Rondo is going to make it easier to pack the paint.
If this trade went threw the Pistons would have a horrible shooting starting 5.
I wouldn't be apposed to rondo, but if it means giving up Monroe I wouldn't do it.
They would have a terrible shooting five. especially because the celtics would need to demand young potential like kcp and knight. the two best shooters on the team.
If the Celtics trade Rondo they are going to want a mixture of either 1) Young talent, 2) Future picks, and 3) Cap relief. The Pistons can't give them #2, and with the addition of JS #3 is also unlikely. The Pistons are fooling themselves if they think they can entice the Celtics with any deal that doesn't involve one of either Drummond or Monroe. It just isn't reasonable.
Edit: "he was having an excellent year before the injury, averaging 13.7 points, 11.1 assists and 5.8 rebounds per game. He had already logged four triple-doubles before tearing his ACL"
That says it all. While I don't think the Celtics will get fair value back for Rondo, I think they could do better than Knight
Monroe at this point and pretty much well into the future is better than Drummond, offensively anyway. But they cannot give up Drummond for any reason other than a guy like Steph Curry or Kyrie Irving. Personally once I saw Rondo made a full recovery and played at least 20 games I would give up Monroe for him but I would need Rondo and something if he is not 100% of his old self. J Smooth and Drummond would make a good defensive front court and Smooth is better as a 4. It would seem the older he gets Josh Smith would play even more four than he does now.
They might be a bad shooting team with Rondo, Smith and Drummond but they would be a helluva good defensive team. Defense is the new NBA trend, everyone is starting to realize that half the game is spent there and it matters just as much as offense.
These are all probably talks designed at nothing but gauging interest and value. Why would a team trade a hurt high quality player at his lowest point of value and why would another team pay any sort of high price for a guy can't currently even jog?
Maybe Rondo/Sullinger/Lee for Monroe/Stucky. I hear Lee and Rondo don't get along though. If I ere the Pistons I would offer Monroe or Drummond plus any other two players on the team for a Rondo and Avery Bradley combo.
why even think about this trade. If the celtics do this they are trying to be horrible, and those fans at the garden will not like it. Hopefully they keep turning down offers.
They are trying to be horrible, and True fans would understand that you have to get bad to get good.
Celtics would only trade Rondo if they could get some combination of Monroe/Knight or Drummond/KCP. I don't think one of them and expirings and picks would be enough.
To me breaking up Monroe/Drummond would be the biggest mistake for the Pistons since passing on guys like Melo, Wade and Bosh in the 03 draft.
Monroe is already a 19 and 9 guy. If Drummond comes around the Pistons will be back at fighting for trips to the finals.
Lol what an awful trade. Brandon Knight for Rajon is comparable to trading in prime Jason Kidd for Jason Terry. Rondo is a top 3 point guard and my second rates ahead of Westbrook. I read he shot over 50% behind 16 below 3 point line last season. He's a passing savant and a tremendous overall player. Anyone thinking this trade would even close to being acceptable is disgracing basketball.
Lol what an awful trade. Brandon Knight for Rajon is comparable to trading in prime Jason Kidd for Jason Terry. Rondo is a top 3 point guard and my second rated ahead of Westbrook. I read he shot over 50% behind 16 below 3 point line last season. He's a passing savant and a tremendous overall player. Anyone thinking this trade would even close to being acceptable is disgracing basketball.
lets not forget that Rondo has only been surrounded by 3 future hall of famers. A quick pass first guard would thrive in that environment. I love Rondo's heart and competitiveness but he is not a top five PG if he cant shoot. There are too many super quick PGs that are knock down shooters (Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Paul, Williams) And lets not also forget that Allen and Doc both wanted out. Allen we know it was because of Rondo and I believe that Doc and Ainge both know Rajon is a handful and want a change from him.
Rondo's value will never be higher than it is today. He will be a nightmare for the organization in a rebuilding process.
As a Piston fan I'm intrigued by the possibilities of a pound and grind old bad boy style offense he would bring with our bigs but there is zero chance Monroe or Drummond are part of the offer for him, zero.
Brandon Knight has a future in this league and is almost there once he can finish around the rim. And if you are the Celtics and you are tanking the season the expiring contracts of Stuckey and Charlie V would be a perfect fit because those players will not bring wins with them.
Parker has been surrounded by hall of famers as well. Rondo is definitely ranked higher then williams. I think we all should already know he's elite, that's pretty obvious. Rondo isn't a great shooter, but when his shot is on he is unstoppable. He doesn't need to shoot a whole lot more since he is a pass first PG. He is also a very good rebounder and defender. Rondo is a pure point guard.
Leading the league in assist and triple doubles, however still isn't a top 5 PG. He can score, but didn't have to because he had players that could. So he created for them. If being a top 5 pg means that he has to score 30ppg he'll likely never ever be top 5.
How about a package centered around Knight and Monroe? Maybe even take back one of those bad contracts that the Celts aquired. If I'm the Celts GM I at least consider it, but I'd feel like I can probably get a better package for Rondo. If I'm the Pistons I do it in a heart beat.
Not pound and grind. He is just so good he runs both offenses well. Up tempo or slow. Has never played to his strength because he played with older stars. Need more than Knight, one of the bigs gotta be coming too. Rondo 's playoff ability is priceless. Not top 5? You claim to know and understand b ball? He grabs more triple doubles than Lebron the last 3 years.
Its going to take a little more than rondo to make a proper trade work.
What i can see happening
To det: rondo, sullinger, wallace
To bos: monroe, knight or stuckey, charlie v
But this will only work if the celts want monroe just as bad as det wants rondo. Sullinger would have to be in the mix bc det couldnt take a full out risk to get rondo for monroe alone