Pistons 8th pick
Surprised no one has a made a thread about this yet....
What to do with the 8th pick ? My favourite 3 look to be long gone (Porter, Dipo, Burke) After that nothing looks too appealing. I would like to see them shop the pick....
Could they maybe trade up and take Porter, Dipo or Burke ? Maybe throw in next years lotto protected first rounder ?
Could they look to trade the pick ? Tyreke Evans, Evan Turner, Jeff Green, J Lamb, Tobias Harris (he is a 3 who started at the 4 and came on strong for Orlando later in the season, they might want to move him)
If they take the pick who do they go for ?
Do they roll the dice on Saric ? Or maybe take a PG in Schroeder or MCW ? Schroeder could learn from Calderon if they decide they wanna run Knight as SG or take MCW who could defend SG while Knight guards the PG. I am not a fan of MCW.
Do they take Bazz ? I haven't seen too much of him. Half the users on here like him, the other half dont'.....
Atlanta want to move up, could the pistons trade the 8th pick for Atlanta's 17th and 18th pick ? Could maybe select Hardaway & Euro Ballers mate or maybe John Jenkins & a pick...
8 actually isn't that bad of a place to be in this draft. There are still going to be players left for the Pistons to look at. I don't like Singler starting, so I agree about the Euro prospects. You guys have lucked out twice now with Monroe then Drummond, so why not trust your scouts again? MCW wouldn't be a bad pick for you guys either, as he could start with Knight.
It seems like every year for the pst couple of drafts Detroit has been blessed to select a player who happened to fall in the draft. Guys who were highly regarded or ranked at the start of the season and for whatever reason ended up dropping a few spots.
Greg Monroe in 2010
Brandon Knight in 2011
Andre Drummond in 2012
Although I'm sure Tom Gore and Joe Dumars would love an opportunity to land a true point like Trey Burke, the former Wolverine is likely long gone come the 8th selection. A guy who seems to be plummeting down some draft boards is Shabazz Muhammed. He may not be the best fit or even the the best player on the board at that point, but he certainly seems to fit what Detroit has been doing in June these last couple of seasons.
The Pistons also have a early second round pick in the late thirties and could use that pick to try and bring in some PG competition for Knight. Buy the looks of it guys like Canaan, Wolters, McCallum, and Kabango are expected to be in that range.
I love the idea of shopping the pick unless a miracle happens and Porter or Oladipo slips to them. I feel like Oladipo has a very small chance of falling to 8 if Orlando does take Burke with their pick. Also Burke would be a possibility if he slides to the 8th pick. The Pistons do not seem sold on Brandon Knight developing into their future PG, so Burke would be a great pick. Personally I don't like Knight long term at the 2 guard so if the Pistons do not see him developing into a PG I would look to trade him while he still is very young.
If Burke, Oladipo, or Porter are not available I would like the Pistons to take a long term approach and look at getting a first round pick in next year's draft with a bad team. Since the Pistons pick next year is only top 8 protected that leaves them in a precarious position in a loaded draft class. If you give up this years first rounder, the chances of being one of the worst 8 teams greatly increases.
Potential trading partners:
Charlotte would be the team I'd look to swing a deal with above all others. Number 1 they make bad decisions frequently. Number 2 they have a few chances of getting into the lottery next year without keeping their own pick. Number 3 Charlotte needs a lot of help in the frontcourt and someone they fall in love with in the draft process could be there at 8.
Atlanta is a trading partner that might be willing to part ways with their first rounder next season. Perhaps the Pistons send their 8th pick and one of their second round picks to Atlanta for the 18th choice and Atlanta's first rounder next year. Atlanta has a decent chance of regressing to the lottery without Josh Smith. It'd be a gamble worth taking for the Pistons if their main targets are off the board.
Washington: If they add a player like Nerlens Noel and they really like a guy like Bennett or Muhammad there is a chance a deal could be worked out. Also if they add Otto Porter and fill their small forward need, they could look to add to their weak front court with a guy like Alex Len
Toronto: No pick in the draft, perhaps they love someone in this draft like two of the Canadian born players, Bennett or Olynyk. Giving the Raptors an 8th pick for a first rounder next year would be a big gamble by the Pistons as the Raptors actually have a decent roster which will by no means guarantee a lottery selection but could be a gamble worth taking as it would basically ensure the Pistons keeping their top 8 selection next season.
Sacramento: I don't see Sacramento getting rid of their first round pick next year but you never know. If they are somehow able to scoop up Burke and are still looking to fill their small forward or center need they could be interested in a trade.
Orlando and Phoenix: Pipe dream getting either one of these teams to give up a first rounder next season but if they fall in love with someone in the draft process maybe just maybe....
I see you are a Pistons fan. Would you not settle for Muhammad if they drafted him? I know a lot of people are down on him but I think he could be a steal in the sense of how Drummond was. People were quick to write off Drummond and now everybody is in love with him. I think the same might happen with Shabazz.
I would be ok with the Pistons taking Muhammad. He has potential and I wouldn't be completely mad at Joe Dumars for making him the choice. I just don't see Muhammad being the piece that the Pistons need to become a contender again. I do agree with you that he could end up being a huge steal. He's still very young and has some very nice physical traits. I like his strength and he has really nice length for a guy who is 6'6" (a bit undersized for the small forward position).I love that he can really score the basketball in different ways like on the block, shooting from the perimeter, and getting to the line.
What I don't like about Muhammad is the fact that I could see him settling for a lot of jumpers in the NBA because I didn't see the finishing skills around the basket in traffic or the finishing ability in transition. Part of this could be due to Howland's system which has held back a few big time athletes but after seeing the combine I didn't see Muhammad being the explosive athlete that the Pistons desperately need at the 3. Some star players are not super explosive athletes and if I was convinced Muhammad played better defense or was a better ball handler and passer I could look past athletic deficiencies. The Pistons have a decent nucleus developing and it's very important to bring in either a small forward or shooting guard with either star ability or with the ability to be a lock down perimeter defender. If they were to add Muhammad he might possibly improve the Pistons next year to a lower seeded playoff team or a late lottery pick, both of which would improve our record but leave us without a pick in next year's huge draft. The Charlotte trade is really an albatross for the Pistons next year which could have huge ramifications for our future as a franchise if the Pistons don't finish with one of the 8 worst records.
I loved Drummond last year, I was shocked he fell so far. I was not one of the many Pistons fans who thought it was a bad pick when we picked him and believe me there were a lot of people who hated the pick because of his "lack of production" in college. He impressed me when I watched him in college and I thought his numbers were more than good for the position he played and his young age. His post defense alone in college showed he would be a solid NBA player at the very least. It really wasn't as risky of a pick as I think Muhammad would be. He definitely has boom potential though so if they do settle for Muhammad I won't be crushed by it by any means.
Thanks for the feedback. I also wanted to ask too how much do you guys value Drummond? If you were a GM would you be willing to trade Drummond to the Cavs for the number one pick if the Cavs drafted Otto Porter for you?
Anytime man! Thanks for asking questions about the Pistons, makes me happy to see people still interested in our franchise. I wouldn't trade Drummond for this year's draft pick even though that would put the Pistons in good position for next year's number one pick. The sky is the limit on Drummond's potential. I'm sure there would be a few Pistons fans who might go for that trade because I personally hear from a lot of people who are very concerned about his free throw shooting. If I could trade Drummond for the number one pick in next year's draft then yes I would do so. I'm incredibly high on Andrew Wiggins. I feel that he is a superstar type of franchise player. I also am very high on Jabari Parker although I am not quite as sure about him being a superstar as I am about Wiggins.
Carolina Blue may I ask what your team is? Who do you think they will select and who would you like them to select?
Oh no problem man. I love Monroe and Drummond. They could potentially be the next twin towers. Sadly i'm a Bobcats/Hornets fan lol. Repping for the hometown team lol. I am honestly looking towards next years draft more than anything. But the dilemma I feel we are in is whether to draft Oladipo or Mclemore. I feel like Mclemore may be available for us when we pick simply because I think the way the draft will go, The Cavs will draft Noel even though I feel they should draft Porter, the Magic will draft Burke, The Wizards will either draft Porter or Noel depending on who the Cavs draft. I want them to get Mclemore because I feel Oladipo is a mini MKG and while that would be a great defensive presence on the wings, that would somewhat be reminiscent of Gerald Henderson so what's the point of drafting the same player you are trying to replace? I think they will draft Oladipo but I want them to draft Mclemore
Good I'm glad you love your hometown team. That's how I have always been as well. I actually agree with you that I think Charlotte will have a chance at McLemore. I think the Cavs should take Porter, Magic should take Burke, and the Wizards will take either Porter or Noel depending on who falls to them. I guess it all comes down to the Magic but I really do think they will take Burke. I think Charlotte should take McLemore as well. I would take McLemore over Oladipo in most scenarios unless a particular team really was desperate for a lock down perimeter defender. I love the efficiency of McLemore's game. I just already have him as someone that has no chance of making it down to the Pistons pick so I didn't even mention him. Good luck, hope the right scenario falls for you guys, you are due for some good things to start happening. Next year will be a huge draft for you guys. Could potentially have 3 lottery picks depending on how the Pistons and the Blazers do next year.!
I also wanted to ask some Pistons fans on this thread, if you had to choose between Anthony Bennett and Muhammad, who would you choose? One is considered and undersized PF who may potentially play the 3, another is labeled an undersized small forward but has the body of a shooting guard.
I would take Muhammad rather than Bennett because of need. I think Bennett will be able to thrive at the power forward position in the NBA. His arms are extremely long and he is strong as a bull. I don't see him playing small forward in the NBA unless teams are just trying to get a few minutes out of him at the 3 for mismatch purposes. Both have very large potential, wouldn't hurt me to see the Pistons take either if all of our preferred picks are gone( Oladipo, Porter, Burke)
It has been mentioned that he wants to hire a top Euro coach to coach the Pistons. His name is Obradovic and everybody, professional and amateur who commented on it said this guy was the real deal. If that is the case they could trade back and pick up both Hawks picks and get a few Euro's plus something else.
I think that the Pistons should draft Bazz. He would be a great fit on that team with Knight, Monroe and Drummond.
I think Burke and Porter should be the top two players on their draft board, however, I don't see either of them falling to the 8th pick.
It's clear that Brandon Knight is not their PG of the future and plays better as a SG. The only problem with that is, he's undersized. With that being said, this draft has the perfect player to pair with Knight in the backcourt. They should draft Michael Carter-Williams. He's a big, athletic PG, who could slide over and guard opposing teams SG's when necessary. He's also a pass-first player which works out very well for the Pistons.
Then, eventually they'll find their starter at SF, and be a scary young team capable of great things. The frontcourt of Drummond and Monroe has potential to hurt teams. Especially since so many teams are run ing small lineups.
MCW is no good. I don't think he is a true point guard which lowers his value as he'd just be a run of the mill SG or SF. He also was caught for shoplifting at Lord and Taylor while at Syracuse.
I would draft Shabazz if I was the Pistons.. They need some scoring on the wing, and he will provide it.. They could again, end up with the steal of the draft..
I would stay away from Muhammed. I mean he could be an older OJ Mayo type (Shabazz looks very old like Greg Oden for a freshmen) but not an impact player.
They need to trade up with the Wizards to snag Otto Porter. Drummoned-Monroe-Porter line would be phenomenal plus with the Georgetown Princeton connection, Monroe and Porter would be something special.
If you're a Pistons fan there's no way you want Shabazz. The last thing that franchise needs right now is a "Me" player. Shabazz is more in love with the idea of making money and living a life of fame and luxury than he is actually putting in the work on the defensive end of the floor and becoming a better player. Oh, and he doesn't rebound or pass the rock either. If he has an off night, your team loses. If he has an on night, odds are whoever he is guarding is getting easy baskets on the other end and you still may lose.