[valentine]

Speaking the truth….or envy and jealousy?

In this situations, I try not to get too nostalgic and think teams from my youth will never be beaten. In my opinion today’s players are simply better….but yesterday’s players would have been better in today’s era too…so I don’t begrudge them for having outdated methods. 

My 2 cents……I’m not buying the sweep. If the Bulls couldn’t sweep their other finals opponents, they’re not sweeping the dubs who are better than them all. 

However I’ve got it going to 7 games….with the Bulls winning.  

Both teams have crazy talent…MVPs, Defensive POY types, Knockdown Shooting etc….

But it got to a stage about half-way through Jordan’s career where he basically never lost big games. So I can’t pick the Dubs to change that. 

Who you got…in how many games?

[alex23Participant]

 It depends what era you put those games in and how they are officiated, coached, etc. I think the Bulls still edge them out in both circumstances but probably by different result. I’d say the Bulls in 7 in this era and maybe 6 in their own era.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 so the games were officiated the same then that they are now….. At least not to the point it would make a Huge difference…… 

If you’re asking if the 91, 92 or 93 Bulls w/ Horace Grant & a 29 y/o Michale Jordan beat the Warriors I”d say yes but it would be Very, Very close……

The game has Evolved a Great deal….. Basically the top teams back then were built exactly like OKC is built today – 2 Big Time stars w/ a rebounder / shot blocker & role players……

I really feel like the Spurs took the game to a new level w/ ball movement & the Entire team Moving w/o the ball & playing great defense….. And the Golden State Warriors are a natural evolution of that…… and they are a Team in the Truest sense of the word….. 

When the Bulls were dominating the name of the game was Isolation……. Every single offensive set was Iso ball…. And Zone Defenses were Illegal…… Since 2001/02′ …… That 95/96 Bulls team was a great team for that Era…….. But they were Not a great Outside shooting team & w/ a 33 y/o Jordan & a 31 y/o Pippen…. They were starting to get a little long in the tooth….. & the Bulls would have really Struggled against a Zone defense….. & they could Never keep up w/ guarding GSW’s motion Offense…. There’s just No way they could guard ALL of them….

This Golden State team is in their Prime…. When Jordan & Pippen were Steph & Draymond’s age they were Still trying to get to their first NBA Final….  I know I’ll get negged to death for this but I think Pippen is high – I say Golden State wins in 7 games….. 

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 so the games were officiated the same then that they are now….. At least not to the point it would make a Huge difference…… 

If you’re asking if the 91, 92 or 93 Bulls w/ Horace Grant & a 29 y/o Michale Jordan beat the Warriors I”d say yes but it would be Very, Very close……

The game has Evolved a Great deal….. Basically the top teams back then were built exactly like OKC is built today – 2 Big Time stars w/ a rebounder / shot blocker & role players……

I really feel like the Spurs took the game to a new level w/ ball movement & the Entire team Moving w/o the ball & playing great defense….. And the Golden State Warriors are a natural evolution of that…… and they are a Team in the Truest sense of the word….. 

When the Bulls were dominating the name of the game was Isolation……. Every single offensive set was Iso ball…. And Zone Defenses were Illegal…… Since 2001/02′ …… That 95/96 Bulls team was a great team for that Era…….. But they were Not a great Outside shooting team & w/ a 33 y/o Jordan & a 31 y/o Pippen…. They were starting to get a little long in the tooth….. & the Bulls would have really Struggled against a Zone defense….. & they could Never keep up w/ guarding GSW’s motion Offense…. There’s just No way they could guard ALL of them….

This Golden State team is in their Prime…. When Jordan & Pippen were Steph & Draymond’s age they were Still trying to get to their first NBA Final….  I know I’ll get negged to death for this but I think Pippen is high – I say Golden State wins in 7 games….. 

 

 

 

 

[alex23Participant]

 It depends what era you put those games in and how they are officiated, coached, etc. I think the Bulls still edge them out in both circumstances but probably by different result. I’d say the Bulls in 7 in this era and maybe 6 in their own era.

[Robb_CParticipant]

If the Bulls were to play the Warriors in a 7 game series with the way the game is officiated now.. MJ would average 40 a game easy… MJ would run wild.. And Pippen would shut down Curry, Id give the Warriors 2 games on the Bulls in a 7 game series.. Look at the teams the Bulls Faced vs the Teams the Warriors are facing, Also realize statsically the New York Knicks teams Jordan faced were statsically one of the best Defenses of all time and MJ would have his way with em

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Many of US are only looking at how the Bulls would defend The  DUBS, but in this Era Jordan would  go to the line every play. No one I repeat not a sole could stay in front of MJ then..with the quick whistle in the ERA Jordan would average 20-25 free throws per game. Foul out KLAY, IGGY and whoever else. As far as Shutting down STEPH..hahah Pippen is great but Steph would be sure to avg 20+ . He has the unlimate green lite to shoot from anywhere, hard to defend that for 48 mins.

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Many of US are only looking at how the Bulls would defend The  DUBS, but in this Era Jordan would  go to the line every play. No one I repeat not a sole could stay in front of MJ then..with the quick whistle in the ERA Jordan would average 20-25 free throws per game. Foul out KLAY, IGGY and whoever else. As far as Shutting down STEPH..hahah Pippen is great but Steph would be sure to avg 20+ . He has the unlimate green lite to shoot from anywhere, hard to defend that for 48 mins.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I second that.  No hand checking means no chance. Even if GSW can score they wont be able to defend. Jordan would slow the game down and go to iso land where he is the greatest ever.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I second that.  No hand checking means no chance. Even if GSW can score they wont be able to defend. Jordan would slow the game down and go to iso land where he is the greatest ever.

[Robb_CParticipant]

If the Bulls were to play the Warriors in a 7 game series with the way the game is officiated now.. MJ would average 40 a game easy… MJ would run wild.. And Pippen would shut down Curry, Id give the Warriors 2 games on the Bulls in a 7 game series.. Look at the teams the Bulls Faced vs the Teams the Warriors are facing, Also realize statsically the New York Knicks teams Jordan faced were statsically one of the best Defenses of all time and MJ would have his way with em

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

Not sure if it’d be a 6 or 7 game series, but I’ve got Chicago either way. I think one interesting way to look at it would be if they both had their historic seasons in the same season regardless of era. In today’s world, the media loves to hype match-ups a great deal. The Warriors have a similar mindset to that Bulls team, but I can only imagine how Michael Jordan would respond if people were questioning whether or not his team was the best or if Steph Curry was better than him. The player match-up that could ultimately determine the series though could be Draymond Green vs. Dennis Rodman. I bet we’d see a couple of techs from each of them.

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

Not sure if it’d be a 6 or 7 game series, but I’ve got Chicago either way. I think one interesting way to look at it would be if they both had their historic seasons in the same season regardless of era. In today’s world, the media loves to hype match-ups a great deal. The Warriors have a similar mindset to that Bulls team, but I can only imagine how Michael Jordan would respond if people were questioning whether or not his team was the best or if Steph Curry was better than him. The player match-up that could ultimately determine the series though could be Draymond Green vs. Dennis Rodman. I bet we’d see a couple of techs from each of them.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 If the game was played back than, Pippen and Harper could hand check Curry and Thompson all game, Rodman would eat Draymond alive and who in their right mind wants to guard MJ, Iggy?

Play the game today, with No hand checking, Jordan averages 50! Pippen and Harper still make life hell for Klay and Steph while Rodman still dominates Draymond with his insane defense, people forget Rodman had to lock down Karl Malone and Charles Barkley his whole career, Draymond isn’t on their level at all…

Bulls with Phil Jackson beat Warriors with Steve Kerr(even though also be playing against them,lol)

 

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 If the game was played back than, Pippen and Harper could hand check Curry and Thompson all game, Rodman would eat Draymond alive and who in their right mind wants to guard MJ, Iggy?

Play the game today, with No hand checking, Jordan averages 50! Pippen and Harper still make life hell for Klay and Steph while Rodman still dominates Draymond with his insane defense, people forget Rodman had to lock down Karl Malone and Charles Barkley his whole career, Draymond isn’t on their level at all…

Bulls with Phil Jackson beat Warriors with Steve Kerr(even though also be playing against them,lol)

 

 

 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Pippen is in my top 20 alltime, he was the most complete all around player until Lebron, He finished 2nd in MVP voting when Jordan ran off to play baseball, and lets not forget his 6 rings!  

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Pippen is in my top 20 alltime, he was the most complete all around player until Lebron, He finished 2nd in MVP voting when Jordan ran off to play baseball, and lets not forget his 6 rings!  

[NJHooper95Participant]

I don’t know if Bulls would sweep them but it would not go 7 games. No matter which era, especially with not being able to hand check I this era. Jordan is the X factor. He would Kill any defender on their team, Pippen would make life hard for Steph, don’t know about lock him down but he would not abuse Scottie. Rodman can matchup with Draymond and dominate the glass still.  

Bulls have the better Coach and the Greatest player ever. 

[NJHooper95Participant]

I don’t know if Bulls would sweep them but it would not go 7 games. No matter which era, especially with not being able to hand check I this era. Jordan is the X factor. He would Kill any defender on their team, Pippen would make life hard for Steph, don’t know about lock him down but he would not abuse Scottie. Rodman can matchup with Draymond and dominate the glass still.  

Bulls have the better Coach and the Greatest player ever. 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 Another thing to keep in mind was that the Bulls only thing close to a weakness was the center position in the greatest era of centers ever. Despite that they were still dominant. In today’s era where centers are not as important the rest of their team would be even more effective.

GS is best when they go small ball with Draymond at center, but the Bulls would be able to match that with a lineup of Harper, MJ, Pippin, Kukoc and Rodman (or Kerr instead of Harper if they wanted more three point shooting). 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 Another thing to keep in mind was that the Bulls only thing close to a weakness was the center position in the greatest era of centers ever. Despite that they were still dominant. In today’s era where centers are not as important the rest of their team would be even more effective.

GS is best when they go small ball with Draymond at center, but the Bulls would be able to match that with a lineup of Harper, MJ, Pippin, Kukoc and Rodman (or Kerr instead of Harper if they wanted more three point shooting). 

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

I definitely would pick the Bulls, though NOT in a sweep. Pippen was one of the TOP perimeter defenders of all-time, so that would be huge. Imagine Pippen on Curry, and Jordan on Klay. Throw Rodman on Green. Damnnnn.

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

I definitely would pick the Bulls, though NOT in a sweep. Pippen was one of the TOP perimeter defenders of all-time, so that would be huge. Imagine Pippen on Curry, and Jordan on Klay. Throw Rodman on Green. Damnnnn.

[r377Participant]

Bulls would win maybe 4-2.

I would like to put the Warriors up against the Bad Boy Pistons. The Warriors are skilled but the Pistons would be rough and intimidate them mentally and physically.

Curry / Thompson vs Isiah / Dumars / Microwave. Rodman is one of the greatest (if not the greatest) defenders and rebounders of all time can guard positions 1-4. His defense would make Pippen look like James Harden !!

Laimbeer and Aguirre were both all stars (Aguirre put up nearly 30ppg at Dallas) Both can shoot the 3 ball. Throw in Salley and Rick Mahorn into the mix.

I am obviously biased but I would give the edge to the Pistons. Rodman and Dumars made numerous all defensive first teams…..

[r377Participant]

Bulls would win maybe 4-2.

I would like to put the Warriors up against the Bad Boy Pistons. The Warriors are skilled but the Pistons would be rough and intimidate them mentally and physically.

Curry / Thompson vs Isiah / Dumars / Microwave. Rodman is one of the greatest (if not the greatest) defenders and rebounders of all time can guard positions 1-4. His defense would make Pippen look like James Harden !!

Laimbeer and Aguirre were both all stars (Aguirre put up nearly 30ppg at Dallas) Both can shoot the 3 ball. Throw in Salley and Rick Mahorn into the mix.

I am obviously biased but I would give the edge to the Pistons. Rodman and Dumars made numerous all defensive first teams…..

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 Obviously people are overlooking the fact that the Warriors have revolutionized floor spacing.  Both Pippen and Jordan would have to expend a lot more energy guarding Golden State players.

  Rodman would not eat Draymond Green and he would also have use more energy following Draymond.  Steph is beyond good at this point and if Seattle was able to take the Bulls to 6 games with Kemp and Payton I like the Warriors chances to win the series.  You don’t win as many games as the Warriors have without having something amazing going on. 

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 Obviously people are overlooking the fact that the Warriors have revolutionized floor spacing.  Both Pippen and Jordan would have to expend a lot more energy guarding Golden State players.

  Rodman would not eat Draymond Green and he would also have use more energy following Draymond.  Steph is beyond good at this point and if Seattle was able to take the Bulls to 6 games with Kemp and Payton I like the Warriors chances to win the series.  You don’t win as many games as the Warriors have without having something amazing going on. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 in the Spring of 96’…… Hand Check rule was changed in 1994…. so the officiating was the same then as today….. 

All the Top teams in 96 Orland (60 wins) Seattle (64 wins) San Antonio (59 Wins) Utah (55 wins) & the Bulls (72 wins) were built Exactly like OKC is today…. b/c the game was 100% ISO ball….. & Zone Defenses were Illegal until 2001/02′

So you dumped the ball down low or on the wing – you cleared Everybody out & EVERY body had to go b/c you HAD to play Man to Man defense back then…… So each team had 2 stars & a rebounder / shot blocker & they ran ISO’s all game long….

That 96 Bulls team would have struggled against a Zone defense….. & those older guys could Never chase around & guard ALL of GSW’s shooters….. The 96 Bulls avg 105 ppts per game & gave up 92…. but Everybody played Just like they did – ISO ball….. 

Golden State Averages 116 pts per game & they give up 103….. so the point differential is the same…… But the difference is Golden State’s movement with Out the ball…. constant floor spacing ALL the way out to 30 ft! would work in Any era…. but that Bulls team could Not score 120 points against a Zone defense & they would be Exhausted chasing around the young Warriors……

Those 96′ Bulls played ALL team that ran offenses Identical to their own….. And you don’t expend a lot of energy defending 1 v 1 Iso sets where Every one else on the floor is just watching b/c a Star called for the ball on an Iso & then a Clear out of All 8 other players…….. Anyone old enough understands what I am talking about…..

Golden State in 7 & I’m being Generous giving the Bulls 3 games…… 1/2 the Bulls team would Stroke out if it went 7 trying to keep up w/ GSW…… 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 in the Spring of 96’…… Hand Check rule was changed in 1994…. so the officiating was the same then as today….. 

All the Top teams in 96 Orland (60 wins) Seattle (64 wins) San Antonio (59 Wins) Utah (55 wins) & the Bulls (72 wins) were built Exactly like OKC is today…. b/c the game was 100% ISO ball….. & Zone Defenses were Illegal until 2001/02′

So you dumped the ball down low or on the wing – you cleared Everybody out & EVERY body had to go b/c you HAD to play Man to Man defense back then…… So each team had 2 stars & a rebounder / shot blocker & they ran ISO’s all game long….

That 96 Bulls team would have struggled against a Zone defense….. & those older guys could Never chase around & guard ALL of GSW’s shooters….. The 96 Bulls avg 105 ppts per game & gave up 92…. but Everybody played Just like they did – ISO ball….. 

Golden State Averages 116 pts per game & they give up 103….. so the point differential is the same…… But the difference is Golden State’s movement with Out the ball…. constant floor spacing ALL the way out to 30 ft! would work in Any era…. but that Bulls team could Not score 120 points against a Zone defense & they would be Exhausted chasing around the young Warriors……

Those 96′ Bulls played ALL team that ran offenses Identical to their own….. And you don’t expend a lot of energy defending 1 v 1 Iso sets where Every one else on the floor is just watching b/c a Star called for the ball on an Iso & then a Clear out of All 8 other players…….. Anyone old enough understands what I am talking about…..

Golden State in 7 & I’m being Generous giving the Bulls 3 games…… 1/2 the Bulls team would Stroke out if it went 7 trying to keep up w/ GSW…… 

 

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 People seem to forget that Jordan had the refs in his back pocket, and he’d eat that zone defense BS alive … He literally lived in the mid range LOL…

On to their respective ages, we’re talking purely hypothetical situations here and even at 35 Rodman would own Draymond Green/Andrew Bogut/Harrison Barnes/Andre Iguadola…HE was born to lock dudes down and OWN the glass, he always had the toughest assignments, he had to deal with Karl Malone in 2 straight finals, not to mention Sir Charles, C-Webb and every other great scorer from 1-5 on the floor… 

People are also forgetting how psychological that Bulls team was, Jordan OWNED everyone in that stadium, Rodman would take players completely out of their comfort zone, than you have All Time great passers in Pippen and Kukoc, a sniper in Kerr who will always be wide open when playing with MJ, and a Guru on the bench who could mind fudge a ref into calling calls when there were none to be had…

I’m doubling down on Chicago in 4…

Who stops MJ with NO HAND CHECKING?Zone defense and ball movement? MJ’s last 2 titles were against the All Time Assist leader and an All Time leading Scorer in Karl Malone…

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 People seem to forget that Jordan had the refs in his back pocket, and he’d eat that zone defense BS alive … He literally lived in the mid range LOL…

On to their respective ages, we’re talking purely hypothetical situations here and even at 35 Rodman would own Draymond Green/Andrew Bogut/Harrison Barnes/Andre Iguadola…HE was born to lock dudes down and OWN the glass, he always had the toughest assignments, he had to deal with Karl Malone in 2 straight finals, not to mention Sir Charles, C-Webb and every other great scorer from 1-5 on the floor… 

People are also forgetting how psychological that Bulls team was, Jordan OWNED everyone in that stadium, Rodman would take players completely out of their comfort zone, than you have All Time great passers in Pippen and Kukoc, a sniper in Kerr who will always be wide open when playing with MJ, and a Guru on the bench who could mind fudge a ref into calling calls when there were none to be had…

I’m doubling down on Chicago in 4…

Who stops MJ with NO HAND CHECKING?Zone defense and ball movement? MJ’s last 2 titles were against the All Time Assist leader and an All Time leading Scorer in Karl Malone…

 

 

 

 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

 MJ’s last 2 titles were against 1 on 1 with Bryon Russell. and theres no denying that MJ will throw up big numbers no matter what the warriors do, he could average 35 and 9 or better, he can and will score on every single body thrown at him more than once, and none of that changes the fact that he can do all that and still loose the game. 

[benny15Participant]

 MJ’s last 2 titles were against 1 on 1 with Bryon Russell. and theres no denying that MJ will throw up big numbers no matter what the warriors do, he could average 35 and 9 or better, he can and will score on every single body thrown at him more than once, and none of that changes the fact that he can do all that and still loose the game. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 Bulls team was Built to be the Best ISO team of That Era……. Zone defense was illegal back then…… the NBA allowed Zone Defense 2001/02′ season……

Pippen was a Horrible shooter…. Rodman could not score at all ….. & these guys were used to playing ISO ball defense…… were 8 players stood & watched after clearing out for a 1 v 1…. this happened almost Every play back in the 90’s……. Those Bulls NEVER had to Chase shooters off Ball Screens for 48 minutes….

The Warriors would just pack in a Zone defense & the Bulls would have to shoot from outside…… You guys are All thinking of the Young Bulls of the late 80’s & early 90’s….. The 96 team would stroke out trying to guard the Warriors from 30 feet & in……..

Does anyone remember Allen Iverson Shaking an Older, Slower 33 y/o Jordan in that famous cross over???…… Well that was 1996 Iverson’s Rookie season…… So people Really think THAT version of the Bulls could beat a Warrior’s team where the average age is 25???

If you though Lebron looked old against them last summer (& he did) well Jordan was 3 years Older than Lebron was against Golden State….. & Rodman was 4 or 5 years older…. Pippen was the same age…..

 Unless your telling me Jordan could score 75 points a game on jump shots I just don’t see how that mid 30’s Bulls team keeps up w/ this Warriors team packing in a Zone Defrense & jacking up 28 ft – 3 point shots off non stop Ball Screens…..

 Think about it guys…… I LUV the Bulls too & Jordan…… give me the 91 Bulls w/ a 28 y/o Jordan & a 26 y/o Pippen & Ho Grant (MUCH better scorer than Rodman)……….& yea I’d take them in 6 or 7…….. not the 96 version….. no way…..

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 Bulls team was Built to be the Best ISO team of That Era……. Zone defense was illegal back then…… the NBA allowed Zone Defense 2001/02′ season……

Pippen was a Horrible shooter…. Rodman could not score at all ….. & these guys were used to playing ISO ball defense…… were 8 players stood & watched after clearing out for a 1 v 1…. this happened almost Every play back in the 90’s……. Those Bulls NEVER had to Chase shooters off Ball Screens for 48 minutes….

The Warriors would just pack in a Zone defense & the Bulls would have to shoot from outside…… You guys are All thinking of the Young Bulls of the late 80’s & early 90’s….. The 96 team would stroke out trying to guard the Warriors from 30 feet & in……..

Does anyone remember Allen Iverson Shaking an Older, Slower 33 y/o Jordan in that famous cross over???…… Well that was 1996 Iverson’s Rookie season…… So people Really think THAT version of the Bulls could beat a Warrior’s team where the average age is 25???

If you though Lebron looked old against them last summer (& he did) well Jordan was 3 years Older than Lebron was against Golden State….. & Rodman was 4 or 5 years older…. Pippen was the same age…..

 Unless your telling me Jordan could score 75 points a game on jump shots I just don’t see how that mid 30’s Bulls team keeps up w/ this Warriors team packing in a Zone Defrense & jacking up 28 ft – 3 point shots off non stop Ball Screens…..

 Think about it guys…… I LUV the Bulls too & Jordan…… give me the 91 Bulls w/ a 28 y/o Jordan & a 26 y/o Pippen & Ho Grant (MUCH better scorer than Rodman)……….& yea I’d take them in 6 or 7…….. not the 96 version….. no way…..

 

 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

to me, this also becomes a philosophical question in basketball. what style of play is best and gives the highest probability of winning? Heroball or Team ball? if anyone looks at this as match-ups, its clear who will win, one of the teams is built for 1 on 1s and match-ups. the other team though is built to be superior than the sum of its parts. 

having said that, i will say with all my pride that i believe the Golden State Warriors will win a series against the basketball Gods Jordan and Pippen and their merry men. I believe in their ability to adjust to any type of opponent, weather they go big or small, play fast or slow. i believe that deffense and spacing will win this match-up and that the bulls will have to surrender some of either in order to be competitive in the other. 

having said all that, i think the dubs can only win if we assume that the game will be played and called in their terms, under the assumption that they can play their zone. now if we flip the script and have them play the bulls back with 1996 rules, then the sweep can actually happen. the only player that steph might be able to guard with chicago’s starting unit is dennis rodman, and thats a maybe. 

kerr will throw Klay, Iggy, Dray, Rush and everyone else on Jordan to try and slow him down. but at the end of the day, he will still score enough for his team to win. if the dubs abandon trying to stop them and try to outscore them, then the game is lost already. those bulls are just too good individually on deffense to allow teams to outscore them. they wont be shutting the warriors down, but theyll get enough stops needed to win 4 games. 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

to me, this also becomes a philosophical question in basketball. what style of play is best and gives the highest probability of winning? Heroball or Team ball? if anyone looks at this as match-ups, its clear who will win, one of the teams is built for 1 on 1s and match-ups. the other team though is built to be superior than the sum of its parts. 

having said that, i will say with all my pride that i believe the Golden State Warriors will win a series against the basketball Gods Jordan and Pippen and their merry men. I believe in their ability to adjust to any type of opponent, weather they go big or small, play fast or slow. i believe that deffense and spacing will win this match-up and that the bulls will have to surrender some of either in order to be competitive in the other. 

having said all that, i think the dubs can only win if we assume that the game will be played and called in their terms, under the assumption that they can play their zone. now if we flip the script and have them play the bulls back with 1996 rules, then the sweep can actually happen. the only player that steph might be able to guard with chicago’s starting unit is dennis rodman, and thats a maybe. 

kerr will throw Klay, Iggy, Dray, Rush and everyone else on Jordan to try and slow him down. but at the end of the day, he will still score enough for his team to win. if the dubs abandon trying to stop them and try to outscore them, then the game is lost already. those bulls are just too good individually on deffense to allow teams to outscore them. they wont be shutting the warriors down, but theyll get enough stops needed to win 4 games. 

 

 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

The era doesn’t matter for this matchup except for how bad the final scores would be. Even though the handchecking rule was changed it wasn’t enforced to the degree it is today. Back then Bulls would completely dismantle the Warriors. People act like Pippen, Jordan and others couldn’t play defense without their hands. They had quick feet, hands, and are more athletic than any current wings in the NBA.

No hands on Jordan means either a lot of fouls or easy baskets. He also doesn’t have to meet guys like Robinson, Mutumbo, or Shaq at the rim. That Bulls team would have had no problem playing small because it would have actually meant more time for their best players. Playing to the Warriors strength covers up the one weakness on that Bulls team. While everyone focuses on Jordan and Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman, Harper, and Kerr were pretty good players in their own right.

I like watching the Warriors play, but I think there are several non-championship teams in recent memory that were better. The Spurs still have a chance to hit 70 wins this year and no one mentions them as an all time team. A third of the league is absolutely terrible, there is a whole bunch of mediocre teams, and then you have a few teams with records that look better because they have been feasting on all the garbage at the bottom. Talk about expansion teams all you want, but the dropoff in talent and competent basketball right now is huge between the best and worst teams.

 

 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

The era doesn’t matter for this matchup except for how bad the final scores would be. Even though the handchecking rule was changed it wasn’t enforced to the degree it is today. Back then Bulls would completely dismantle the Warriors. People act like Pippen, Jordan and others couldn’t play defense without their hands. They had quick feet, hands, and are more athletic than any current wings in the NBA.

No hands on Jordan means either a lot of fouls or easy baskets. He also doesn’t have to meet guys like Robinson, Mutumbo, or Shaq at the rim. That Bulls team would have had no problem playing small because it would have actually meant more time for their best players. Playing to the Warriors strength covers up the one weakness on that Bulls team. While everyone focuses on Jordan and Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman, Harper, and Kerr were pretty good players in their own right.

I like watching the Warriors play, but I think there are several non-championship teams in recent memory that were better. The Spurs still have a chance to hit 70 wins this year and no one mentions them as an all time team. A third of the league is absolutely terrible, there is a whole bunch of mediocre teams, and then you have a few teams with records that look better because they have been feasting on all the garbage at the bottom. Talk about expansion teams all you want, but the dropoff in talent and competent basketball right now is huge between the best and worst teams.

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 played…… But the hand check rule was changed in 94 to bring Jordan BACK from Baseball….. You could Not breathe on Jordan With  ot W/O the hand check rule……

I agree the 91, 92 or 93 team beats the Warriors in a Tough 7 games series b/c the Bulls Only had ONE scorer – Jordan…. they would Have to score 120 points Every night to beat GSW……

But the 96 team was in their 30’s – Jordan had just looked very old the year before when Orlando smoked them…….

That Bulls team was Built for that ISO era where you could rest on defense b/c it was 1 v 1 ALL game – your team Only needed One Great scorer……. Look at All the Top teams…… The Bulls never swept anyone in the Finals Sonics, the Jazz went 6 Tough games….. GSW is would run those Utah & Seattle teams off the floor……

The Warriors would pack it in & play a Zone & the Bulls would have to shoot over that Zone…… & The Bulls 33 y/o legs On Def would have to Chase 48 min out to 28 ft….  No Way could they guard GSW all game for 7 games……

 & at the other end – Who’s gonna shoot from Outside to help Jordan? Rodman?…. Pippen?………… Toni Kukoc??? Jordan scored 30 ppg – Pippen scored 19 ppg & Kukoc scored 13 ppg…..  These guys scored in transition off their man D….. GSW kills teams that try to do that….. Pippen was a 35% 3 pt shooter…..No one else scored more than 8 pts…..

 This is why you can’t compare ERA’s….. B/c the game evolves…… But even if Chicago could win it would be a Brutally tough 7 game series….

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 played…… But the hand check rule was changed in 94 to bring Jordan BACK from Baseball….. You could Not breathe on Jordan With  ot W/O the hand check rule……

I agree the 91, 92 or 93 team beats the Warriors in a Tough 7 games series b/c the Bulls Only had ONE scorer – Jordan…. they would Have to score 120 points Every night to beat GSW……

But the 96 team was in their 30’s – Jordan had just looked very old the year before when Orlando smoked them…….

That Bulls team was Built for that ISO era where you could rest on defense b/c it was 1 v 1 ALL game – your team Only needed One Great scorer……. Look at All the Top teams…… The Bulls never swept anyone in the Finals Sonics, the Jazz went 6 Tough games….. GSW is would run those Utah & Seattle teams off the floor……

The Warriors would pack it in & play a Zone & the Bulls would have to shoot over that Zone…… & The Bulls 33 y/o legs On Def would have to Chase 48 min out to 28 ft….  No Way could they guard GSW all game for 7 games……

 & at the other end – Who’s gonna shoot from Outside to help Jordan? Rodman?…. Pippen?………… Toni Kukoc??? Jordan scored 30 ppg – Pippen scored 19 ppg & Kukoc scored 13 ppg…..  These guys scored in transition off their man D….. GSW kills teams that try to do that….. Pippen was a 35% 3 pt shooter…..No one else scored more than 8 pts…..

 This is why you can’t compare ERA’s….. B/c the game evolves…… But even if Chicago could win it would be a Brutally tough 7 game series….

 

 

 

 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Steve Kerr and what team he wants to win decides the series. Does he shoot airballs intentionally and take all the shots while coaching his typical small ball GSW lineup? Or does he come off the bench and hit big shots while starting a big GSW lineup with Draymond at the 2, Speights at the 3, Ezeli at 4, Bogut at 5 with Klay coming off the bench? We will never know

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Steve Kerr and what team he wants to win decides the series. Does he shoot airballs intentionally and take all the shots while coaching his typical small ball GSW lineup? Or does he come off the bench and hit big shots while starting a big GSW lineup with Draymond at the 2, Speights at the 3, Ezeli at 4, Bogut at 5 with Klay coming off the bench? We will never know

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Luke Walton could coach the Warriors and let Steve Kerr play for the Bulls.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Luke Walton could coach the Warriors and let Steve Kerr play for the Bulls.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I will go Bulls in 6.

The ’96 Bulls beat the Shaq-Penny Magic in 4, but the Sonics took them to 6, and I think at least two of those loses for Seattle were when they were missing Nate McMillan.  I think MJ didn’t play so hot in that Finals.  Or at least he didn’t shoot so well. 

Who knows?

On the one hand, MJ could post up any guard.  On the other hand, Warriors would trade 2 for 3.  Bulls score 2, Warriors get 3.

Who knows?

Iggy would DEFINITELY have his hands full.  But, so would Rodman.  Rodman vs. Draymond would be very fun to watch.  And, you can’t actually spell Draymond without RODMAN. 

Kukoc could be the back breaker for the Bulls.  Can the Warriors lock up Jordan, Pippen, AND Kukoc?  I can see Kukoc getting multiple 17, 7, and 5 games. 

I think the Warriors perimeter guys would run Ron Harper off the court. 

Luc Longley vs. Andrew Bogut would be an Australian wash.

And, for a coach, gimme Phil Jackson.

I think Jordan would get his 28 to 32 points a night.

I can really see Scottie carving them up though.  He could pick them apart IF they ran the offense through him.  I could see him doing something like 23, 9, and 8 — maybe he might HAVE to do that for the Bulls to win.

Use Jordan as a guy to get to the line and as a decoy to stretch the floor.  Then let Pippen and Kukoc go to work.  Hide Harper.  Let Rodman chase down boards and get in Draymond’s head. 

Would be a REALLY fun Finals.  In the ’96 Finals where the 72 win Bulls team validated their historic run, the two BEST players in that series were Shawn Kemp and Dennis Rodman. 

If I am Golden State I play BIG.  Hope that Bogut does his thing on D, then give you some offense on the other end.  Draymond can make Rodman work on defense.  I can see Draymond doing decently well keeping him off the boards as much as possible.  For the Warriors, you CANNOT let Kukoc beat you.  So, keep the Bulls from going small.

Don’t see ANYONE in NBA history stopping a small ball ’96 Bulls lineup of Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Rodman.

I would actually move Pippen to the point, and play Ron Harper at the 3 where he only has to guard Harrison Barnes instead of Curry or Klay.

Do Pippen/Kukoc pick and rolls.  Put Jordan on the weak side in isolation.  Harper spotting up for strong side 3’s in the corner.  Luc Longley on the baseline, staying out of the way, and being a low post safety valve.  Then let Dennis Rodman go wherever he wants to.  You could also switch out Luc and Dennis.  Put Dennis on the baseline and Luc in the high post, read to fire a mid-range jumper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I will go Bulls in 6.

The ’96 Bulls beat the Shaq-Penny Magic in 4, but the Sonics took them to 6, and I think at least two of those loses for Seattle were when they were missing Nate McMillan.  I think MJ didn’t play so hot in that Finals.  Or at least he didn’t shoot so well. 

Who knows?

On the one hand, MJ could post up any guard.  On the other hand, Warriors would trade 2 for 3.  Bulls score 2, Warriors get 3.

Who knows?

Iggy would DEFINITELY have his hands full.  But, so would Rodman.  Rodman vs. Draymond would be very fun to watch.  And, you can’t actually spell Draymond without RODMAN. 

Kukoc could be the back breaker for the Bulls.  Can the Warriors lock up Jordan, Pippen, AND Kukoc?  I can see Kukoc getting multiple 17, 7, and 5 games. 

I think the Warriors perimeter guys would run Ron Harper off the court. 

Luc Longley vs. Andrew Bogut would be an Australian wash.

And, for a coach, gimme Phil Jackson.

I think Jordan would get his 28 to 32 points a night.

I can really see Scottie carving them up though.  He could pick them apart IF they ran the offense through him.  I could see him doing something like 23, 9, and 8 — maybe he might HAVE to do that for the Bulls to win.

Use Jordan as a guy to get to the line and as a decoy to stretch the floor.  Then let Pippen and Kukoc go to work.  Hide Harper.  Let Rodman chase down boards and get in Draymond’s head. 

Would be a REALLY fun Finals.  In the ’96 Finals where the 72 win Bulls team validated their historic run, the two BEST players in that series were Shawn Kemp and Dennis Rodman. 

If I am Golden State I play BIG.  Hope that Bogut does his thing on D, then give you some offense on the other end.  Draymond can make Rodman work on defense.  I can see Draymond doing decently well keeping him off the boards as much as possible.  For the Warriors, you CANNOT let Kukoc beat you.  So, keep the Bulls from going small.

Don’t see ANYONE in NBA history stopping a small ball ’96 Bulls lineup of Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Rodman.

I would actually move Pippen to the point, and play Ron Harper at the 3 where he only has to guard Harrison Barnes instead of Curry or Klay.

Do Pippen/Kukoc pick and rolls.  Put Jordan on the weak side in isolation.  Harper spotting up for strong side 3’s in the corner.  Luc Longley on the baseline, staying out of the way, and being a low post safety valve.  Then let Dennis Rodman go wherever he wants to.  You could also switch out Luc and Dennis.  Put Dennis on the baseline and Luc in the high post, read to fire a mid-range jumper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TravelinTravParticipant]

Its a tough pick, I grew up loving the Bulls, I had their starter jacket, watched the untouchabulls many many times on VHS, I had Jordan posters all over my wall, but I would take the Warriors. Most of the post season games for the Bulls were close, rarely did they blow teams away. I don’t believe the Bulls could keep up with the scoring of the Warriors, the Bulls did have a few good 3pt shooters but at the end of the day 3 is greater than 2. 

If this game did happen would Kerr play for the Bulls or coach the Warriors?

 

[TravelinTravParticipant]

Its a tough pick, I grew up loving the Bulls, I had their starter jacket, watched the untouchabulls many many times on VHS, I had Jordan posters all over my wall, but I would take the Warriors. Most of the post season games for the Bulls were close, rarely did they blow teams away. I don’t believe the Bulls could keep up with the scoring of the Warriors, the Bulls did have a few good 3pt shooters but at the end of the day 3 is greater than 2. 

If this game did happen would Kerr play for the Bulls or coach the Warriors?

 

[r377Participant]

Longley vs Bogut – this would be a Hype Machine’s wet dream ?

[r377Participant]

Longley vs Bogut – this would be a Hype Machine’s wet dream ?

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