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  • #62921
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    gopack10
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    Phil took a lot of heat this weekend for a tweet he sent out about Steph Curry and comparing him to Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.

    Obviously at this point that statement is ridiculous considering what Curry has become, but when I saw it, it reminded me of Aran’s comparison of Curry when he was drafted.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/stephen-curry

    It was a fair comparison by this site when he was drafted because very few thought he would be at this level of play in the NBA.

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  • #1045573
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    NJHooper95
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    Phil Jackson was on right on with his comparison. Chris Jackson/ Mamoud Abdul-rauf  was one of the greatest collegiate players ever and was a feared shooter in the league off the dribble or catch and shoot. Very good handle and quick release. We are not comparing accomplishments  as there is no comparison. We are just talking ability to the handle and shoot the ball at a high level.

    Please be mindful that Curry has a green light that we have never seen before, and shots that he is taking and making now, would not have been acceptable in Chris Jackson’s time and the number of three points attempts are way higher than back then. But Chris Jackson could get it going with the best of them. His jumper and handle were money.  I know we live in the moment and steph is amazing, and but please don’t slight Chris Jackson if you have not seen this guy play.

     

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  • #1045438
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    NJHooper95
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    Phil Jackson was on right on with his comparison. Chris Jackson/ Mamoud Abdul-rauf  was one of the greatest collegiate players ever and was a feared shooter in the league off the dribble or catch and shoot. Very good handle and quick release. We are not comparing accomplishments  as there is no comparison. We are just talking ability to the handle and shoot the ball at a high level.

    Please be mindful that Curry has a green light that we have never seen before, and shots that he is taking and making now, would not have been acceptable in Chris Jackson’s time and the number of three points attempts are way higher than back then. But Chris Jackson could get it going with the best of them. His jumper and handle were money.  I know we live in the moment and steph is amazing, and but please don’t slight Chris Jackson if you have not seen this guy play.

     

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  • #1045575
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     There has never been a player like curry before so it’s impossible to generate an accurate comparison for him. Adbul-rauf wasn’t a terrible comparison for him coming into the league by any means. He wasn’t quite on Curry’s level as a shooter or ball-handler but was a more explosive athlete coming out of college. Of course, now that comparison looks extremely outdated because no one could reasonably predict how much curry would improve once he got in the NBA and how the shift in the overall philosophy of NBA offensive play would perfectly coincide with his strengths as a player.

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  • #1045439
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     There has never been a player like curry before so it’s impossible to generate an accurate comparison for him. Adbul-rauf wasn’t a terrible comparison for him coming into the league by any means. He wasn’t quite on Curry’s level as a shooter or ball-handler but was a more explosive athlete coming out of college. Of course, now that comparison looks extremely outdated because no one could reasonably predict how much curry would improve once he got in the NBA and how the shift in the overall philosophy of NBA offensive play would perfectly coincide with his strengths as a player.

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    • #1045621
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       Please can we stop with the never seen before with curry specifically since most of us have never seen every nbz player in the history of the league play. I mean obviously u can say whatever you want as a human being but many older guys constantly talk about jerry west &, pistol Pete doing what curry did before curry.

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    • #1045485
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      Stop_basketball_nonsense
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       Please can we stop with the never seen before with curry specifically since most of us have never seen every nbz player in the history of the league play. I mean obviously u can say whatever you want as a human being but many older guys constantly talk about jerry west &, pistol Pete doing what curry did before curry.

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  • #1045583
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    AdamJCalleja
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     Abdul-Rauf’s legacy has already been surpassed by Curry, but if we’re going by pure shooting ability and quickness/shiftiness with the ball Mahmoud is right there with Steph. Mahmoud at his best was basically unstoppable gave Stockton & the Jazz 51 in the same fashion Curry would.

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  • #1045448
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    AdamJCalleja
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     Abdul-Rauf’s legacy has already been surpassed by Curry, but if we’re going by pure shooting ability and quickness/shiftiness with the ball Mahmoud is right there with Steph. Mahmoud at his best was basically unstoppable gave Stockton & the Jazz 51 in the same fashion Curry would.

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  • #1045585
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    RUDEBOY_
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     so sad that lsu havent retired his jersey…

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  • #1045450
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    RUDEBOY_
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     so sad that lsu havent retired his jersey…

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  • #1045587
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    Playing-style wise, Jackson without a doubt is the closest comparison to Curry, especially in his LSU days. Both take and make bad 3 point shots, which is generated by their handle. And come to think of it, Jackson was ahead of his time then, jacking up pull-up three pointers like they were layups, but making a lot of them. 

     

     

     

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  • #1045452
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    Playing-style wise, Jackson without a doubt is the closest comparison to Curry, especially in his LSU days. Both take and make bad 3 point shots, which is generated by their handle. And come to think of it, Jackson was ahead of his time then, jacking up pull-up three pointers like they were layups, but making a lot of them. 

     

     

     

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  • #1045598
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     I saw that bleacher report article and watched some tape…he could shoot but he was no steph. Give steph respect he is a champion. 

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  • #1045461
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     I saw that bleacher report article and watched some tape…he could shoot but he was no steph. Give steph respect he is a champion. 

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  • #1045603
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    RUDEBOY_
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    steph is the better player..but give my homie some credit..dude got buckets..32 against jordan & pippen.51 on stockton.3 of the best perimeter defenders of all time…he played during an era where the rules were different..

    he should send phil jackson a thank you card or a bottle of wine for making him relevant again……

     

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  • #1045468
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    RUDEBOY_
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    steph is the better player..but give my homie some credit..dude got buckets..32 against jordan & pippen.51 on stockton.3 of the best perimeter defenders of all time…he played during an era where the rules were different..

    he should send phil jackson a thank you card or a bottle of wine for making him relevant again……

     

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  • #1045640
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     People actually forget how good Chris Jackson was haha.. Thats why I hate todays NBA fans. They dont know and I wont address this anymore. 

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  • #1045503
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     People actually forget how good Chris Jackson was haha.. Thats why I hate todays NBA fans. They dont know and I wont address this anymore. 

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    • #1045572
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      daggers818
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       Dang straight.

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    • #1045708
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      daggers818
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       Dang straight.

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  • #1045519
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    doubledribbler
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    Great comparsion and probably the best one I have heard. Coming out I compared Curry to Steve Nash, I just saw Curry as more offensively aggressive. Some will be like, how would you go from a 2 time MVP to Abdul Rauf? Steve Nash was an excellent basketball player, but even with those MVPs I believe Chris Paul was a better player during the same period (neither may have been league’s best), he just had half the talent. Abdul Rauf has a more similiar play style. I felt Curry was becoming more balanced between scoring and distributing, but that has changed and it’s understandable. He’s just too good and too efficent offensively to not take the amount of shots that he takes.

    Curry is hard to compare because he has a greenlight that I’m not sure I have ever seen. He doesn’t just get to shoot whenever he wants, he even gets to step back from distance and take the same shots. You don’t see that kind of freedom often past middle school. He’s also in this weird era where he gets rested pretty well for a super star. They blow out so many people, he’s taking off 4th quarters. When he does play, half the time he doesn’t have to play defense because there is always a perimeter player that has no offensive game that they can shift him onto.

     

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  • #1045656
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    Great comparsion and probably the best one I have heard. Coming out I compared Curry to Steve Nash, I just saw Curry as more offensively aggressive. Some will be like, how would you go from a 2 time MVP to Abdul Rauf? Steve Nash was an excellent basketball player, but even with those MVPs I believe Chris Paul was a better player during the same period (neither may have been league’s best), he just had half the talent. Abdul Rauf has a more similiar play style. I felt Curry was becoming more balanced between scoring and distributing, but that has changed and it’s understandable. He’s just too good and too efficent offensively to not take the amount of shots that he takes.

    Curry is hard to compare because he has a greenlight that I’m not sure I have ever seen. He doesn’t just get to shoot whenever he wants, he even gets to step back from distance and take the same shots. You don’t see that kind of freedom often past middle school. He’s also in this weird era where he gets rested pretty well for a super star. They blow out so many people, he’s taking off 4th quarters. When he does play, half the time he doesn’t have to play defense because there is always a perimeter player that has no offensive game that they can shift him onto.

     

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  • #1045766
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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     I’m not going to get into thia argument because I am biased. My photo has been the same for almost my near 8 years on this site. 

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  • #1045629
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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     I’m not going to get into thia argument because I am biased. My photo has been the same for almost my near 8 years on this site. 

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  • #1045772
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’ve always thought Damian Lillard reminded me of Jackson/Abdul Rauf. 

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  • #1045635
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’ve always thought Damian Lillard reminded me of Jackson/Abdul Rauf. 

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