Is Phil Jackson Overrated?
Every Year He Won A NBA Championship he has had the Best Player in The League on His Team ...Jordan was The Best Player in the league Every Year The Bulls Won ..Shaq Was The Best Player in The Leaue During The Lakers Three-Peat and Kobe Was The Best Player In The League The Other Times He Won ...Just My Observation ...Am I Bugging or Can I Get a Amen?
... to dislike your topic a million times. Nobody says that to the ZEN MASTER. Idiot!
He has had some really talented teams. But to put it all together and get all those ego's to mess isnt easy. Regardless he has 13 rings so the answer is definitely no.
You're absolutely correct. Yes Phil Jackson had talented teams, but he was the coach that took them over the top. For as talented as all the star players Phil coached, only one of them won a ring without him and that was Shaquille O'Neal. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant at this point didn't win any rings before being coached by Phil Jackson and they didn't win any rings after. There were quite a few coaches who couldn't help these guys reach the pinacle of success in the NBA, winning the championship, but Phil Jackson did 11 times (6 with the Bulls and 5 with the Lakers).
Well when phil coached those teams the players were not the top players in the season until they played witv phil and his system. Where he used the triangle offense to strengthen everyones game as well as using his manipulations like talking bad about his players to the media to make his players play harder, lastly he is the most chill coach ever never panicing but rather always thinking of ways how to win.
Te better question is.......is this post overrated ? The answer is yes
You're not the best until you win ships. Leave Kobe on the bobcats and he probably has the same career as AI, Vince Carter, Tmac, ect. Geat numbers, no rings. The same was looking like it was going to happen to MJ until Phil came into town and made him buy into the fact that you need a team to win. No one has consistantly gotten the best out of his players then Phil.
I dont think you shouldve gotten negged, its a legitimate question. Everyone knows he is an all time great, I dont think you dispute that? The question is, is he overrated? Before he won his last two chips I used to believe that he was. However after going back and looking at some intricacies that he brought to those Bulls teams each year, I would say he is underrated from a technical standpoint. The guy REALLY is a genius....and I probably have more respect for him than any other NBA coach.
your completely buggin yea hes had talent but that talent has too be coached and meshed together saying he only won because the talent he had imo is like saying anyone could have coached those teams and won and that just isnt true
to me he is a top five coach, and if you build your team around one or two players he would be a great coach, but if your team is built like with more of a team aspect then coach popavich should be your guy. The reason Kobe and Jordan didn't win championships wth out jackson is because they were in there prime when he was there and out of it when he wasn't. Other coaches might have won 6 or 7 championships with the players he had, but he won 11 championships, so he is not the greatest coach, but one of the greatest coaches ever.
You're bugging. Phil was the only other guy besides Chuck Daily who could keep Rodman in line, the only guy who could get Shaq and Kobe to coexist and a master of Tex Winter's triangle offense.
Being a coach is more than X's and O's, it's about getting results, getting guys to play together and knowing the game. Phil did it all. I'm not saying he's the best of all time because I didn't get to watch the coaching of a lot of the older guys, but he's the best I've seen since I've started watching college and pro ball in 1991.
An over-rated coach would be a guy who came in and took over a winning side, maybe won another title with them and had success but went to another team and did nothing. Sure Phil's teams were good when he took over and his front office's recruited well for him but none of his star players had titles before hand and he took all his team's to the next level. 11 Titles, no more needs to be said.
According to my rankings he only had the best player in the league 4/9 titles and he also won a CBA title.
And remember punk ass Kobe could not even make the playoffs without Jackson. Also remember the 1994 Bulls would of won the title if the referees did not cheat the against the Knicks. I think Stern rigged the series to protect Jordan's legacy.
Stern made the Bulls lose to the Knicks to protect Jordan's legacy? No, the Knicks were just a better team, although not by a lot, than the Jordan-less Bulls.
they won in 7 on bad calls, yes they were a more talented team but Jackson was a better coach and put his team in position to win if the refs did not cheat
Bad calls happen, that doesn't mean there is a conspiracy.
Yes he's overrated
You should read the article on the first Bulls championship about a week back. It had quotes from the players, gm, and coaches in a timeline from the end of the season before (which they loss to the Pistons) and to the end of the following season.
Phil Jackson's importance was greatly emphasized, beginning with the Triangle offense, to having to get the players and media to buy into it when it wasn't working, to learning to manage Jordan.
Do I think he was lucky by being able to coach as many top 25 players in NBA history as did? Absolutely. You give a coach like Larry Brown his rosters and he wins about just as much. You another great coach like Don Nelson and he probably doesn't. Overrated? Nope.
Who do people feel then maybe made the most of the talent they had out of any NBA Coach then, the old 2+2=5 scenario when the results outweigh the talent on their roster eg punching above their weight.
Jerry Sloan. Yes he had Stockton and Malone for many years, but the Jazz were always decent and often one of the top teams in the league. They never won the Chip, but some of that is fluke and some of that is just not having Jordan or Shaq.
It is impossible to have more championship rings than fingers and be overrated