only 11minutes in the game Perry has 10pts 5rbs while TRob struggles with 3to's 5pts 1reb..
a three ball, crazy alleyoop, hook over Thomas looks like full package..
Who is "Pery"?
But yeah Perry Jones looks like a man on a mission right now and he needs to play like this more consistently. If he brings it like this during a potential NCAA Tournament run then his stock should skyrocket.
I have not seen Perry show any emotion untill tonight and hes looked much more into the game.
I thought this was about Perry the Platypus
If PJ3 continues to play like a beast well into the tournament how high could he get himself drafted? Because we all know he has #1 overall Potential, the only reason we haven't dared to put him up there is because he hasn't shown it consistently.. But if he continues to show up down the stretch when it really matters I think he could really shake things up (top 5?).. Currently he's #17 in the mock on this site....
Yea I agree he's playing really well, seems like that article by ESPN a week ago got to him.
Nowhere to be found so far in the 2nd half....SMH!
10 points, 5 rebounds in the first 11 minutes.
0 points, 1 rebound in the last 18 minutes.
That's why the scouts are so confused about him, the talent is there, but he dissapears too much
Best player in the draft, feel bad for the team that doesn't take him first and he is a superstar by year 5,
Brady Heslip got a ratchet....
In other terms he can shoot the ish out the ball lol
Baylor drops Kansas when it counts most.
woop and... PJ3 is playing well again..
He did dissappear for a bit, but I think he picked it up when it mattered most. When Kansas caught up to Baylor, Jones was taking the shot every time down. He missed three in a row, and even though they looked bad I was happy he had the confidence and aggressivness to keep shooting. After that he made 2 or 3 more baskets. He didn't completely dominate, but he has looked more aggressive every single game since that ESPN article. It just looks neat seeing someone his size playing on the perimeter with guard skills. Damn if he played with aggression all the time he would be better amazing, but he doesn't.
I agree he did pick it back up a little bit, but Baylor would have blown Kansas out had he continued his play from the first half.
Win is a Win tho.
Do you think now that Kansas lost, if Kentucky wins their conference tourney and Davis plays at par does he now win player of the year? He is my favorite player and I'm just trying to get an unbiased perspective because mine is biased hahaha.
Oh no he we go again.....PLEASE PLEASE he is not a top 5 player.
I remember the first game of the season he scored about 30- 32pts and everyone was back on the band wagon placing him in their top 5 mocks.
One of two good games, lets not get carried away. He is called the invisible man for a reason....
I say Jones goes real early because scouts are not that stupid. He is the best player in this draft IMO.
He had a pretty solid game, his mid range game was not working, though. He was tossing up bricks from 15 feet in the 2nd half. He did a nice job taking advantage of Jeff Withey's foot speed by making some quick moves on the block to get open.
He played better, last night, but he didn't look like the best player in the draft. Same old Perry, really, he'll showcase a nice skillset, not stop anyone on defense, and not produce for a 10 minute stretch.
Evaluation for players into the pro's is suspect if you name me five guys who will certainly be better than him at the next level in this draft. Since when was the player who played the best in college equal him being he best pro joewolf1?
I'm sorry scout4real, I just don't buy the "he's more built for the pros" arguement. I've been very clear as to what I think of Perry and what kind of pro he'll be. The "NBA is different" arguement doesn't hold water with Jones. Yeah, he's versitile, but he's not a 3, he's underperformed all year long, he's not a very good defender, and I think he's a bench player/occasional starter at the next level with a ceiling of a 15-17 ppg 2nd or 3rd option.
Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, John Wall, Kyrie Irving(when healthy), James Harden, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Tim Duncan, Kevin Love, Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Deron Williams and dozens more were all top level college players who enjoyed success in the NBA level. Pretty much every NBA All-Star who went to college produced at that level.
You really think I think college stats indicate the best pro? They don't, but if a guy is that good, why isn't he putting up more than 14 ppg and 7 rpg while being the #1 option on his team, why has he disappeared in more big games than he's played well in BY FAR? Why does he play well against guys who won't be in the NBA and have his worst games against guys who are NBA prospects?
A player who he has been compared to before. Rudy Gay. Rudy Gay underperformed in college and I for one think he has underperformed in the pros but his game has gotten better in the pros and he is a reliable *STAR* not a *SUPERSTAR* but a star. Rudy Gay was drafted at like 8 by Houston, Perry will be drafted around the same pick and I think he will give you the same proudction.
If he continues to produce in the conference tourney and hs shows some aggresiveness and produces in the NCAA tournament he will go back up because even with his inconsitency he is one of the most talented players in this draft, if not the most talented player.
Talent wins out most of the time.
He wasn't a dominant player at UCLA, but is now a definite star in the NBA. Still, 90% of the time Joe is right--great players in the NBA have usually been stars at every level. The trick is discovering which dominant college players have a chance at greatness at the next level.
I hear the Gay comparison a lot, but the main difference I see in the two, is that Rudy Gay made a pretty significant improvement from his Freshman to Sophomore year and was a 2nd team All-American.
Jones is really the same player he was last year, he's not a very good defender and he's not an NBA small forward. People think he is because he takes college centers off the dribble a lot, but he's better suited as a stretch 4 in the pros.
Talent and college production don't always match. We can name busts from the last 10 years who were dominant in college. There is just as many if not more than there are of players who produced in college and are now producing in the pros. I think Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger are underperfoming but everyone gives them the benefit of the doubt and say their games are more suited for the pros. Harrison plays with a pass first point guard, perry doesn't. Harrison is only getting 17 and 5, Jared is getting 17 and 9, and they both are true number 1 options with passing point guards. Pierre Jackson? really. He actually averages 1 shot less than Perry a game.
Someone mentioned Derrick Rose, well Javaris Crittention produced just as good as Derrick Rose on the college level, look how that turned out. Look at players, like Shelden Williams, Tyrus Thomas, Hasheem Thabeet, Marcus Fizer, Stromile Swift, Luke Jackson, Chris Mihm, Demarr Johnson, Joe Alexander, Eddie Griffin, Ike Diogu, etc. College producton and talent/potential don't always match.
Perry Jones is actually playing 3 minutes less a game and putting up the same stats. Rudy Gay's minutes actually increased.
That's the thing, a lot of guys really produce at the college level and then goto the pros against better competition and fail. The opposite really doesn't happen much, guys don't really struggle at the college level and then go to the NBA and blow up.
No one is arguing that Luke Jackson is a bust, he had a harder time against NBA competition, because it's better. Why would Perry Jones struggle against Ricardo Ratliffe and then play better against Blake Griffin?
Really? You're bringing up Gay's minutes? He played 2 minutes more and he was a noticably better player as a sophomore and an All-American, Jones really isn't and will not make the 2nd team All-American team. People aren't doubting Jones because they hate his skills, it's because he didn't really improve and often got out classed by other pro prospects.
3 minutes less, same exact stats, that shows improvement in it's on. People shy away from Perry Jones because of inconsistency not production. Those are yet again 2 different things. His production isn't far off from Harrison Barnes or Jarred Sullinger.
"Though he's just 19 years of age, his sophomore year was supposed to be his to take over college basketball. When that didn't happen, people began to question his desire and intensity and whether he has it in him to become great ... He floats in and out of games, and tended to defer to teammates in clutch situations ... Is it a lack of fire, or just a lack of maturity and confidence? Time will tell ... Unselfish to a fault, like Vince Carter, he almost takes being the perfect teammate too far. He's a star and should act like one ... He still struggles to create offense for himself off the dribble, getting the majority of his baskets off of rebounds, or passes from tammates ..."
That's on the "NBADRAFT.NET" profile for Rudy Gay AFTER his sophomore year. Rudy Gay is one of my favorite players, been watching him his whole career since he got in college but his improvement wasn't that great. The UCONN teams he played on were loaded, Rashard Anderson, Josh Boone, Hilton Armstrong, Denham Brown, Jeff Adrien, Craig Austrie, Marcus Williams who I think was one of the best passing college point guards in recent memory. Let's not forget the 8.6 assists Marcus Williams averaged that year.
Still in the NBA he hasn't become the superstar he was supposed to become. He's a star not a superstar.
Perry Jones imo won't be a number 1 option in the NBA, he would be better as a number 2 or 3 option on a team. He has the talent, the point is for someone to bring out his fire. Rudy Gay shows it sometimes not all of the time. Lamar Odom showed it sometimes not all of the time. Players who all had and still have the same questions as Perry, and they're doing fine for themselves but you saying he will be a bench players is blantant disrespect to the guys talent.
That's why I hate hype.
"You saying he will be a bench players is blantant disrespect to the guys talent."
What are you his Dad? It's called player analysis, how dare I question Perry Jones' immense talent, and any disrespect it saying I think he'll be a 10 ppg bench player. The talent he showed in high school demands so much respect that it should be assumed he's an NBA starter? comon' man.
JoeWolf for President, xD. he's the only one that makes sense in this thread.
Players who don't have positions usually aren't good NBA players. They are usually fringe starters or bench players, which is what Perry will be.
"Players who don't have positions usually aren't good NBA players. They are usually fringe starters or bench players, which is what Perry will be."
If he makes those shots from 15-feet to the arc at around 50 percent and can knock down a respectable percentage of 3s, it doesn't matter whether you consider him a 3 or 4. He'll be on the court. Conversely, if he doesn't want to use his size to his advantage and doesn't shoot the ball well, then it doesn't matter if he is 6' 11 and a good athlete.
How is Perry Jones' pro career going so far ?