Perry Jones III. Your take on him
We shall see if he ends up doing that. One difference is those guys showed the agressiveness and dominate nature in H.S. Perry didn't.
I actually hope the light turns on and he plays like people expect him to. He should have never got all those expectations though because his play in H.S never warranted most of them so it shouldn't be his fault if he never becomes a superstar
I don't know if he'll be a superstar. I just don't think he'll be Anthony Randolph...Not even close really
I don't think people are comparing Anthony Randolph's game to Perry Jones. The comparison is more so their career path. Jones will be around the league a good amount of years based on his athleticism, reach, length, and potential. Which is exactly why guys like Yi Jianlian, Anthony Randolph, Jonathan Bender, Marvin Williams, Brandan Wright and so on, get big time contracts and remain in the league for so long.
^^^ agreed. Although i do hope he plays well because that would make college basketball even more exciting to watch, but i wouldnt put my money on him doing as well as people think because he's never constantly showed the mind set to tae over or the work ethic on the court. You just get flashes
"I don't think people are comparing Anthony Randolph's game to Perry Jones. The comparison is more so their career path."
I don't think his career will be anything like Randolph's either. Randolph doesn't work hard, and that's why his career has gone the way it has. I don't think Jones will have that problem. As a matter of fact, he's shown already in collegethat his progression won't be marked by a lack of a work ethic.
First of all, I feel like some people are using hard worker to say that he doesn't have a high motor in games... Which I think is true.
I think J Nixon is saying that he is a hard worker as far as improving his game. Evidenced by the fact that he improved throughout the season, and supported even more by the fact that as the season progressed, he played against tougher competition. I think that is also probably true. (this is what I would call hard worker personally)
I think we'll all see next year whether or not he's a hard worker. We'll see it in the facets that he's added to his game. I'd like to see him add the 3 point shot- out to NBA range even... and I'd like to see him add more low post moves. I'd also like to see him get stronger so that he can be a legitimate power forward/center (who possibly has the handles of a 3)
and by some people, I meant cward. not that it's the wrong use of hard worker, i just don't think that's what J Nixon was talkin about.
Anthony Randolph is an idiot straight up. Just like you cant compare people to Steve Nash, Lebron James, and Kobe Bryant you also shouldnt compare players to Micheal Beasley, JR Smith, and Anthony Randolph. You cant compare players to idiots, if a player is too ignorant/dumb/lazy to work on game you shouldnt draw comparisons to him.
I think Perry will shock people, just like Rudy Gay did. Im not saying thats his comparison, I am saying alot of people will take his youth, lack of agression, and inabillity to put the package all together and they may think he will be a bust. Yet for some reason I think his effort and talent is too much to pass up, he could be a borderline Allstar, and two way player.
I like the comparison to Rudy Gay- not assertive, but so talented.
Probably will never be The Guy, but definitely is a legit starter that can do many things besides being a ball hog and putting up huge scoring numbers.
I think that people are holding Jones III to an unreasonable standard. He doesn't need to be a top isolation scorer to justify a top 5 selection. He had an extremely efficient freshman year, and has lots of room to improve. He has the potential to play either forward position, depending on how he improves his shot. Unlike Anthony Randolph, he understands his limitations, though he is unaggressive to a fault.
I don't like the Rudty Gay thing because Gay always played hard he just had a smooth way about him Perry has a smooth way but he also takes plays off. He always didn't really progress towards the end of the season he progessed in the middle then seems to just rest on those accomplishments. One thing that he did that throws a wrench into my theory is when he decided to come back instead of taking the easy route and get drafted based on his potential. This actually does suggest that he knows he has flaws and wants to work hard and get better (something Randolph didn't do). So i can understand the difference between the two there
You're right you do need to be able to shoot and go past you're man. Perry can go past Big men but struggled trying to go past Sf (jordan Hamilton being one) and his jumper is suspect. He has the "potential to even tually play SOME Sf but would struggle to play or defend that position right now.
As far as highlight tapes, they can make anyone look like they have a great shot(just record every single make) and great handles
Rudy Gay definitely disappeared for stretches when he was at UCONN.
He didn''t score for at times because he didnt have to but he still rebounded, defended and ran the floor. Perry needed to do that since that team wasn't even a NCAA team
I feel like the longer Jones stays at Baylor, the more defined his NBA position becomes - PF. He should continue to put on weight, and near the end of the year, he showed flashes of being a more athletic (but rail-thin) LaMarcus Aldridge - using his length to shoot over defenders consistently in the 10-15 foot range. Coming into college, many were raving about his wing-potential, but that was AAU fool's gold.
His game is far more suited for the NBA level, as his thin frame gets pushed around in the crowded paint of CBB. In an NBA faceup 4 role he could be fantastic, particularly if he gets paired with a quality PG.
But as its been mentioned, its all about focus for him. In the beginning of the year, he was almost so passive that I was convinced he'd never pan out. But over the course of the year, he became more and more aggressive in the limited post-role he was given. This gives me hope that he will be a mental late-bloomer, ala Gay or Aldridge.
cward, i'm gonna have to disagree with you about Gay-Perry Jones comparison. Gay definitely disappeared at times if you're gonna say Perry disappeared... I didn't watch one game where Perry just quit completely. He definitely still defended and got after rebounds. He also played a lot of that unorthodox zone, but he still definitely was there on defense when i watched.
I'm talking about both guys not being assertive offensively.
Lets hope he decides to do that this season
Perry didnt do it for awhole game but he did it a coupel of times in a couple of games. Times when he could have easily blocked a shot or got a rebound due to the fact he jumps out the gym and how long he is. Or didnt box out. All these things are correctable.
Gay didnt do that as much for one because he was on the wing most of the time and SF aren't expected to block shots or crash the boards alot
I think he might look much better with a playmaking pg in the NBA. At Baylor last year, he often looked tentative on the court and struggled to get in the flow offensively. Baylor's guards, particularily LaceDarius Dunn, were very shot happy, and didn't set up their team mates well. Also, Jones struggled on defense at times due to an apparent lack of awareness of where he was supposed to be. He just didn't rotate well. I think we could see big improvement in him as he gets more comfortable, without Dunn taking so many shots. Some of the shots Dunn took may go to Quincy Miller, but I think Miller may have to work a little for playing time early since he is a freshman on a team with a talented and established front court, and Jones may be relied upon more as a shot creator.