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Pacers organization vs PGs

What is the problem with the organization & their veteran PGs?

First they had told Jamaal Tinsley to stay home & bought him out now they are not playing T.J. Ford, but are stringing him along playing cat & mouse not buying him out. Please give my boy his walking papers so he can get his career back on track. I just don't get it can anyone explain to me why they won't divorce him.


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isnt he still on the team and

isnt he still on the team and travelling with them? Maybe they just dont see him in the rotation so hes not playing.

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I understand the NBA does not

I understand the NBA does not work like this, but if you have no use for him on your team get rid of him instead of letting him rot.

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he's their third string pg

he's their third string pg and they are in position to make the playoffs. What if an injury happens? Maybe they feel better about having him on the roster as opposed to paying him just to leave.

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Either way you look at it

Either way you look at it they are paying him.

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Things have gotten so bad for

Things have gotten so bad for TJ Ford that The Lance Stephenson PG experiment has started. I was watching the Warriors vs Pacers today and I noticed Stephenson played a bit of PG while Collison was in the bench.

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"either way you look at it,

"either way you look at it, they are paying him"

exactly. He's getting paid to show up. Dont see a problem with the siutaion.

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I'm looking at it from T.J.'s

I'm looking at it from T.J.'s perspective.......I'm sure anyone won't mind to sit for pay, but if he has love for the game it does not sit well with him.

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im sure sitting doesnt sit

im sure sitting doesnt sit well with any athlete. Should they all be paid there money anyways and allowed to leave?

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im sure if ford said you know

im sure if ford said you know what forget the money, just let me leave and you dont have to pay me th epacers would happily ablige.

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It don't work like that. He

It don't work like that. He is a professional he has earned his keep. He makes a living playing ball & that would take away from his lively hood if he lost out on his money.

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They tried setting up a buyout with Ford, but reports are it failed due to money negotiations not going the way each side hoped, and Ford not knowing if he had a team immediately signed up to sign with. The chances of him being bought up are unlikely, but Ford said he will be professional about the situation. Tinsley was a much different scenario in comparison this this.

And yes, Born Ready is starting to get some PT from the Pacers. He can bring a nice spark to their rotation if he gets decent minutes.

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so ford shouldnt lose any

so ford shouldnt lose any money becasue he has earned his keep and that his livelyhood but th epacers should pay him to leave and play for another team?

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Damn I made tons of grammatical errors!

Immediately signed up=Immediately *lined* up

in comparison this this=in comparison *to* this

Anyway, Ford just doesn't fit what the Pacers are currently doing, but as long as he's under contract, he's under the Pacers' control. That's just how it is.

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That's the whole purpose of a

That's the whole purpose of a buyout LOL

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im aware of what a buyout is.

im aware of what a buyout is. Team says if you want to leave, we will want to pay you less then we owe you to save money. Player says no, i want more money then you are willing to pay me to leave. Team says in that case we will just keep you. So once again, i dont see anything wrong here. He is paid to be on the team. If he wants to leave, he needs to take less money. He doesnt want less money so he is still on the team. Everything is all good from both sides as far im concerned. But you seem to suggest the pacers are screwing him.

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How you were putting it after

How you were putting it after first you weree saying he should leave with no money rather then less.

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I'm with Perez here. If a

I'm with Perez here. If a player truely has a passion for the game and can't stand being on the bench, he should be willing to do whatever it takes to get back out there Hel, half of his contract for the year has already paid so he couldn't have been losing much more than 2-3 million dollars. And as much as he has been paid to set on his ass, 2-3 milion shouldn't be the hold up. Accept the buyout and go to a team that fits you and earn you another contract. IMO, T.J. cares more about the money, than the love of the game.

Dennis Rodman tried to play for free so that the Bulls would pay both Scottie and Mike. He ended up having to play for the minimum. But that shows a true passion. You think Rodman would turn away a buyout if he were stuck on a bench not getting PT. Hell no.

Almsot as bad as Spreewell turning down his final contract because it was 23 million short of what he expected. Ultimately, he never played again. I really wish he would have taken the buyout. He would have been TERRIFIC as Chauncey Billups's backup. He could bring back what they lost with Felton. Oh well, the mighty dollar strikes again.

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Fine

Everything going on is fine. I think Tinsley was an issue and a hold over from some bad times. I think he might have gotten a super brief stint in Memphis afterwards, but has been M.I.A. since then. As far as TJ goes, I THINK he can play still. He's had some really bad injuries that have slowed him and his career down. As I see it Pacers have wanted to go in another direction with younger guys. You also have to keep in mind that most teams like to keep at least 3 guys that can be primary ball handlers and set up the offense. Who is available at that position that is likely better than TJ Ford and that would sign with them right now? That is their choice to keep him and at this point it seems to be working fine, so why change it? I'm sure Pacers are open to a buyout, but they have a number that they feel comfortable with and TJ Ford doesn't feel comfortable with. He can either take the buyout or play out his contract. I hate that it's going to make it harder for him as a free agent, but he should enjoy the guaranteed money. He's definitely not making that much next year.

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"How you were putting it

"How you were putting it after first you weree saying he should leave with no money rather then less"

i never said that. I never said he should leave period. You made a comment about playing being important to him and i simply said he could leave if he didnt care about money and playing was what he wanted.

I never implied buyouts mean not getting any money.

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Man, you must REALLY love

Man, you must REALLY love T.J. Ford's game Memphistyga.

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Correct I loved him in

Correct I loved him in HS/Texas.

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