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Opinions?

Seen this video today, want to know your opinions and arguments to it.


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Only got four minutes in

Only got four minutes in before I had seen enough. Since when does college performance effect being the best NBA player ever?

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LOL Y2G, as soon as I saw

LOL Y2G, as soon as I saw "Jordan was a great individual player, but didn't lift his teammates up like Bird and..." is when I stopped. inferring Bird was better than Jordan will drive me away from your argument immediately.

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Yup, of the points I actually

Yup, of the points I actually saw I could refute all of them easily.

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And let me clarify, the 90s

And let me clarify, the 90s were a weak era for basketball as a whole, for sure. But what Jordan did was such a substantial cut above it, its hard to use that excuse, which apparently, is almost entirely his argument (And James Worthy scoring more than him in college).

I would have loved to see MJ in the Kobe-Lebron era. But when you look at the landscape of the east, until the 2010 Heat were formed, it wouldn't have been hard for those Bulls team to roll through the East.

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Michael Jordan was the best

Michael Jordan was the best college player... said nobody ever lol

Then he starts trying to say the bulls were just as good the season Mj was out as they are knocke off in the semifinals.. the next season thebulls are 34-31 without MJ, and finish 47-35.. they get knocked out of the playoffs that year. What happens the next 3 seasons afterthat when MJ plays full seasons? Someone remind me.

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Pippen finishes 2nd in mvp?

bulls were more then jordan!

one of the reason I hate to compare kobe to Pippen!

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I watched the whole thing (both parts)

It is fun to see someone explain such a different opinion than my own. I still believe MJ is the Goat tho.
I will say that I completely agree with him on one of his points, "MJ didn't make Pippen. Pippen made Pippen." Scottie was a beast in his MJ-less time in Chicago and deserves his spot in the 50 greatest of all time. Could score, pass, rebound and most importantly guard 1-4 with equal success.

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this guy in the video is

this guy in the video is making a big deal about the expansion teams..... its not like the expansion teams had a chance to dethrone the bulls in the playoffs

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he pushed off

If you think Jordan is G.O.A.T i will not argue with you, there is a case to be made, but.. I don't agree

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That second video actually

That second video actually makes a good argument, however I think what fuels the GOAT argument for Jordan is the impact on basketball he left. Like Muhammad Ali, he inspired people to pay attention to the sport even love it, till this day. He captivated casual fans, helped some fall in love with the game and was repeatedly considered the best by his peers. Go look up what the NBA grossed before Jordan as a whole and after. Before him basketball was fun and entertaining but he made it important to the country.

I saw a NBA TV special on Bill Russell the other day and I have changed my view of the GOAT. Jalen Rose made a statement on Numbers Never Lie a few weeks ago that part of what made Jordan special was that he never stood for anything. Even though the height of his fame and influence was during the most violent, crime and drug riddled portions of the last hundred years. The 90's were terrible as a 8 to 18 year old. Jordan made everyone feel good and kept a smile. His father was reportedly a victim of the violent 90's, when every big city was like Chicago is now. He had a great will, but he didn't translate or inspire that will in people to do anything but play basketball. Not own a business or even challenge them intellectually like Charles Barkley did with the I'm Not a Role Model campaign, in which he said teachers, firefighters, etc. are role models not dumb jocks.

To be the GOAT to me, you have to be great at more than putting a round orange ball through a round orange cylinder connected to a square fiber glass board. As much as I love basketball, if that's all that's important why would anyone ever discuss (argue) or even give a sh!t about it.

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I watched the video and

I watched the video and although I disagree with a lot of it he does make some good points about MJ's defense which I always believed was overrated. The thing the video did make me wonder though is, if he was not drafted by the bulls and instead went to a team who needed him to be a star, how would Scottie Pippen's career have played out, because with the skillset he had I believe he could of been regarded a top 10 all time player, if he had a chance to lead his own team.

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