Fellow basketball fans, there is a secret to winning it all that should not surprise anyone, but incredibly some will disagree. And to those fans that disagree I just say good luck in the lotto lol. The key is having at least 2 top 5 players at their position. That's it. Other factors matter in building a good team, but as far as championships, you gotta have top 5 players at 2 positions. The ONLY time you could argue is d wade's first championship, where dallas laid down and got run over. Look it all up yall...
2011 NBA Champions were the Mavericks. Outside of Dirk who is the other player to be a top 5 player at their position? Certainly not Kidd, Terry, Marion, or Chandler.
While I agree with you overall instead of him, some could argue Chandler is a top 5 Center.
I was waiting for someone to argue 2011. You are dead wrong. Tyson chandler WAS a top 5 center, he just didnt dominate on the offensive end. Chandler is actually considered the most important player on that championship team for his defense
who were 5 centers better than chandler in 2011?
I could only name 2 surefire. Dwight Howard and Al Jefferson. I mean I guess you can make an argument for Andrew Bogut, Joakim Noah, Andrew Bynum and Al Jefferson. But even that's a tight argument.
Howard, Bogut, Jefferson, Noah, Horford, Bynum, Duncan. Wasn't Amare playing Center that year and tearing it up as well? Not saying they are ALL better, but I would have a hard time putting Chandler above them. Chandler was VERY important to the Mavs title run, but they doesn't really make him a top 5 Center in the entire league does it?
It doesn't exactly give you a title though.
The Lakers, arguably, had 4 players that were top 5 in their position and were swept in the first round by the Spurs who arguably have 1. (And even Parker is constantly forgotten).
OKC had 3 guys in the top-5 at their position and lost in 2012.
Miami had 3 guys in the top-5 at their position and lost in 2011 to a Mavericks team which only had 1.
The Celtics in 2010 arguably had 4 and lost to the Lakers with 3.
In 2008, the Lakers arguably had 3 as well and still lost to the Celtics with 3.
The Spurs won all of those titles and I don't think anybody considered (They should have) Tony Parker a top-5 player at his position.
Wade won a title in 06 and was the only top-5 player on his team.
Pistons won in 04 and they were as balanced as they come. I mean, hell, in the last 10 seasons, the Spurs (3 titles) Detroit (1 title) Mavs (1 title) and Heat w/o LBJ (1 title) had only 1 player that was top-5 at their position. That's 6/10!
When the Heat won the title in '06, Wade was the only top-5 at his position player on the team? I think you might be forgetting about a certain future Hall of Famer. Shaq wasn't his previously dominant self at that point in his career, but he was clearly still a top 5 center. He averaged 20 ppg and 9.2 rpg on 60% shooting that season Plus 18.4 ppg, 9.4. rpg, and 61% FG in the playoffs is pretty damn good. What 5 centers would have been better than that at the time?
Did the Detroit Pistons have 2 top 5 players at their position? They had just one all-star in Ben Wallace.
Although it is a little bit like saying "To win a championship you have to have a good team".
You can also claim that to win a chamionship a team needs to have a top 10 coach. Or three guys that can play good defense.
You can't even say for sure who the top 5 players at their position are, it's all very uncertain.
You would be wrong as well. Billups was a top 5 pg AT THE TIME
I wouldn't say that you need two of the top five players at their position as the automatic winning formula. The posters above me have given examples of how that theory proves wrong. However it does help to at least get you to the promise land. But then again this years Lakers barely made it in the playoffs with arguably 2 of the top 5 players in the leauge. So yea, there really is no "true" winning formula because the past NBA Champions have all come in different shapes and sizes
I think true chemistry goes a lot further than pure star-power.
For example, when Heat first formed their trio they started off really bad until they got it together and got used to each others games. The Lakers this year is probably the best example of good players that just don't have chemistry, and thus they barely made the playoffs and got swept.
On the flipside teams like Golden State don't exactly have the best team on paper but they're playing extremely well, even without David Lee because they have great team chemistry and work together. The Bulls is another team that comes to mind, their best player is out yet they keep pushing forward and surpassing expectations because they're very team orientated.
While I doubt the Warriors or Bulls have a legit shot this year, there have been similar teams in the past to win, the Championship Pistons is the best example of a team that's just really well rounded and plays well together.
Obviously star-power is nice though, if you can have chemistry AND star-power then you've got it made, a la Heat.
The one prerequisite is to win four 7-game series against 4 different teams. Thats it. If your team can do that, they can win a championship.
Having the best collection of talent, coaching, and/or resources helps.
i think it's possible if you have a top 5 player at a position and a top 5 coach as well. pop and duncan, wade and riley come to mind. it has to be more than just a really good player by himself though
i would say defense. theres never been a run and gun team winning it all and theres a reason why. look at denver right now. look at the mavs champioship year. yes they won with dirk taking over but they also did it on the defensive end with the zone. look at the reason why the knicks are even in a conversation about maybe beating the heat. all because of what chandler has brought to the table on the defensive side of the court.
There is no hard-and-fast rule. Obviously.
I would say that what championship teams generally have in common is a great front court. The Pistons team everyone brings up had 4 guys who were starting centers in this league (even though one of them was Darko). The '11 Mavs had Dirk, who was playing like the best player on the planet; Chandler, who was having a great year; and Haywood, who had been looking like a borderline all-star the previous season. The '06 Heat wouldn't have won if Haslem didn't shut down Dirk or Morning had missed a shot at some point during that series. And that without the easy ones like the Shaq Lakers or the Duncan/Robinson Spurs.
there are some exceptions to that top 5 rule like dallas,and detroit,but more often that not,the team with the most top 5 guys will win.outside of that though,i would say perimeter shooting is an absolute must to win the title
Robinson in the final year of his career, Parker and Ginobili were rookies.
Only TD was a top-5 player, although he was the best player in the league that year.
Your 'rule' has too many exceptions for it to be a rule.
An NBA title team needs players to hit shots. The Pistons title team had Billups, Rip, Rasheed, and others who could hit shots. The Lakers that year could not. In 2011 the Mavs hit shots and the Heat didn't do as good a job.
The Bulls teams with Jordan always had extra shooters with range. When Jordan got doubled, the threw it out to guys like Paxon, BJ Armstrong, Kerr, and others for makeable 3 point shots.
This year, do teams like the Bulls and Nuggets have enough shooters to go all the way? Can they score enough?
The Heat are the odds on favorite to win it all, because they not only have LeBron and Company, but the have shooters like Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Rashard Lewis. They can put five shooters/scorers on the floor at the same time if they want to.
If the Thunder want to get back to the Finals they need scoring help from guys other than Kevin Durant.
The Clippers/Grizzlies series could come down to who hits more 3's than the other guys. If the Clips get hot from deep I think they take the series. If they don't and if the Grizzlies can make their shots (even just open 15 footers) I think the Grizzlies will win. The Grizzlies are a team that could either lose to the Clippers in 6 games if they go ice cold, or get to the Finals if their perimeter guys hit their three point shots.
In today's NBA you have to put the ball in the basket. You have to spead the floor and hit the 3. That is what makes this year's Knicks so dangerous.
Ok....so obviously there are basically no fans of the Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, or Mavs on this site. Objectivity is dead lol.