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Omer Asik to Rockets

Adrian Wojnarowski reports that the Rockets have reached an agreement with Omer Asik on a 3 year $25 million deal.

Wow! Over $8 million per year. I don't like this signing very much but whatever.

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By the way, this is an offer

By the way, this is an offer sheet, so Bulls have the ability to match

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wow they were that desperate

wow

they were that desperate for a center

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Remember the year before this

Remember the year before this one when Houston offered Courtney Lee for Asik? In hindsight, they should have taken that deal. Lol. It is a lot of money for a guy that has played sparingly. He is a terrible FT shooter and doesn't have the best hands. If you wanted to overpay him, you could have offered like 6 mil per. It almost like this is a move to have a big expiring in a couple of years as another asset. Maybe Houston knows they won't be a contender for a few years.

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By the way, this is an offer

By the way, this is an offer sheet, so Bulls have the ability to match

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The Bulls may want to match

The Bulls may want to match the offer sheet, but there is no way they can afford it with everyone elses contracts...particularly since they have a weakness at SG. Asik is being overpaid to join the Rockets just like every decent bigman who signs with a team via free agency.

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let him walk

The Bulls just have to let him go. Spend that money somewhere else.

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It's reported that Asik will

It's reported that Asik will make $1.5 million his first year, over $8million his second year and $15 Million his third year! So I doubt the Bulls will match, unless they amnesty Boozer before the 2014-15 season

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Double post

Double post

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First, when Houston pink

First, when Houston pink slips Daryl Morey, this contract should be sent to every team that considers hiring him in the future.

Second, it confuses me. Omer Asik fall under both the "early Bird" and "Gilbert Arenas" provisions. The early Bird basically allows Chicago to offer him up to the average league salary (MLE) even if they are over the cap. The Arenas provision prohibits teams from offering more than the average league salary, which was the reason Golden State was unable to keep Gilbert Arenas after his emergence as a second round pick. How is it that Houston can then offer mid-level money for two years and then jump him to close to max money in year three? Aren't these contracts still held up to the limits in annual raises? Weren't reductions in annual raises one of the big issues for owners in the last CBA?

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It is strange

I was thinking about the new CBA % per year increases and I am fairly sure they did their best to protect themselves from this sort of situation; you would not have been able to do this a few years ago let alone right now. Maybe they have some sort of exception clause for the final year of a contract.

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Absolutely brutal. Under no

Absolutely brutal. Under no scenario is he worth $8mil

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Wait, in two years you're

Wait, in two years you're gonna give a defensive center that gives you 3 and 5 15 million dollars!! No way the Bulls can match, they can't pay Noah, Booz, Rose, Deng, and Asik this kind of money, no way, the Rockets have their center, but damn, and they're not done yet, they're trying to shop Scola, but they have Lowry, Dragic is a FA, most likely will walk but you never know, you still have a guy in K-Mart who struggled last season but still put up 18 per game, Courtney Lee, Camby, Scola, Chandler Parsons, and their three promising rookies, they have a lot of potential breakout guys, if Terrence Jones and Luis Scola can run the floor and bang, they'll be a scary team, and Asik has a chance to be a premier rim protecter, he might not be worth 25 million(he's worth 3 years 11 million in my opinion) but he'll be a great defensive guy, but is the defense worth offensive liability. But the Rockets still might be very good next season, a big risk here but I like an agressive GM like Daryl Morey, be aggresive and take risks, he has been my favorite GM for a while, and although this contract may backfire, it's basically two years of a terrible contract, that's it, if they can make it through those, they'll be fine.

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"Asik has a chance to be a

"Asik has a chance to be a premier rim protecter, he might not be worth 25 million(he's worth 3 years 11 million in my opinion) but he'll be a great defensive guy"

He is going to the West, not the second unit of the East. Duncan, Marc Gasol, Bynum, Bogut, Cousins, Gortat, Jefferson, Pekovic, possibly Hibbert, and possibly Howard. Have fun with that. Take a look at what Spencer Hawes did when Noah went down. When he started against Utah, the Jazz bigs (Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, and Kanter) combined to put in 48. He started against the Bobcats who was starting Byron Mullens, and Mullens put in 17!!! This isn't Dikembe Asik. He is a guy who was a committed participant in a good defensive system. Congrats, so was Joel Anthony.

"I like an agressive GM like Daryl Morey, be aggresive and take risks, he has been my favorite GM for a while, and although this contract may backfire, it's basically two years of a terrible contract, that's it, if they can make it through those, they'll be fine."

What has Morey done as a GM to earn any praise? The team got worse after he initially took over and has stagnated outside of the playoffs for the past three years. Drafting guys who aren't bums is not the job of a team's front office, winning games is. When you draft the same positions over and over thus allowing for massive doughnut holes in the middle, you end up doing something stupid. Tyler Zeller and Nik Vucevic were there for them. They chose more forwards. I like their forwards, but what good is having all of them? There is no value to having all of them. None.

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I agree with Both Teams Played Hard

Daryll Morey has been overrated as a GM for some time...

1st off The GM isn't the only one in charge of drafting players so any credit he's taking there can go to a lot of people, they have scouts, coaches, player personel and ownership to listen to for advice...

The GM does have a major influence in trades however and Daryl Morey hasn't made any in his time in Houston that have paid off...

He's tried and Failed to trade for Amare, Melo, Pau Gasol and now Dwight Howard...

He's also tried and failed to sign Marc Gasol, Chris Bosh, Nene and quite a few others in his time there...

He's failed at packaging a few of his decents assets for anything in the past 2 seasons...

At this point it looks like he's tired of failing and he's just shutting down all trade talks and letting Kevin Mchale pick which players he'll use in the games...Passing on Zeller twice when they had a glaring Hole at C and are now going to overpay for a Center just shows you Daryl Morey has no clue on how to build a Team...

Sure he could have drafted Lamb at 12, Zeller at 16 and then taken White or Jones at 18, But this is Daryl Morey and he's trying his best to "out Kaun" the genius in Minnesota and stock pile players at Sf/Pf

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I will say one thing though,

I will say one thing though, he is one of the best defenders in the league, and I am not exagerating, the metric stats say he allows 92 points per 100 possesions. He doesn't qualify among league leaders in any catagories because he played only 15 minutes per game, but the league leader was KG at 94. This may be scewed due to pace adjusments, but even his teamate Joahkim Noah had a rating of 96, although he did rank 4th among those that qualified.]

He would also rank second in offensive rebound percentage and third in defensive rebound percentage, and I believe he only needed 40 more total minutes to qualify for the metric leaders, so this sin't pie in the sky, he has real defensive and rebounding potential, but it just isn't worth 25 million, then again you never know.

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Wait a second, if my math is

Wait a second, if my math is correct, the Rockets can't give Asik more than 14,085,191 in any given year unless they give him the max.

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is this a Playoff team

for the last 2 years they have been fighting to get into the Playoffs, this move does not make them one of the 8 best teams in the West. They will lose enough to get another 12-14th loto pick next year.

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Oh God no...

Oh God no...

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so for 25 million, the

so for 25 million, the rockets signed a turkish, motivated version of Hasheem Thabeet.. a big center with good mobility, excellent defensive promise, and a deep need to be taught how not to be an offensive liability by Kevin McHale. interesting how pieces of houstons puzzle will fall by the end of the off-season.

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must be nice to be 7 feet and

must be nice to be 7 feet and not terrible...it goes for around 7 million a year...

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Just so everyone is clear,

Just so everyone is clear, I'm pretty sure that the contract is for $5 mil the first year, a little more than $5 mil the second year (possibly around 5.2), and close to $15 mil the third year.

So while it may average out to over $8 mil a year, that is in no way how it will count against the cap, so there's really no point in thinking about it that way.

As a Bulls fan, this move &$#%#&@! me off. There's no way Asik is worth $15 million in any year of a contract, nor will he ever be. This is just a cheap move to try to prevent the Bulls from matching. The most tradable asset in 2014-2015 for a team looking to free up cap space...Omer Asik's Expiring Contract. Such BS.

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Here is the thing, he isn't

Here is the thing, he isn't worth the $5 million in the first two years. The third year money just clouds that fact. The Mavericks let Tyson Chandler left, and were just as good defensively. Their offense wasn't as good this year, but a good defensive infrastructure combined with good teaching can do wonders.

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Oh, my bad, I checked the CBA

Oh, my bad, I checked the CBA again, Asik's third year can go up to 14,898,938. You're allowed to go past the max level at least once. That number could continue to rise even if the cap stays the same, so they could give him even more.

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