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  • #26382
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    I like the move they made to grab Kendrick Perkins but, I think they still need two or three more moves before we crown them a championship team or a dynasty.

    1. Resign Kendrick Perkins to a long term contract.  Will he resign?  I personally think he will.  OKC is a great situation for him.  Great talent along with young legs to run and grow with.

    2. Put together a package of Nate Robinson, Mullens, and Royal Ivey to get a decent backup small forward for Kevin Durant.  Marvin Williams?  If not, Grant Hill is a free agent.

    3. The final move is to get a good scorer down on the block.  Preferably a bench player who can put up numbers offensively.  Carl Landry is a free agent this offseason.  And with about 7mil and the MLE.  The OKC Thunder can make a run for him.  And use the rest of the cap money to fill up the roster.

    Westbrook / Maynor / Boykins

    Sefolosha / Harden / Cook

    Durant / M. Williams / C. Brewer

    Ibaka / Landry / Collison

    Perkins / Aldrich / Haddadi

    Depth and talent at every position, whether it’s on the bench or in the starting lineup.  They have 14 playable guys and they still keep their core.

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  • #501792
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    I think they need a championship before we can crown tem a championship, and a dynasty before we can crown hem a dynasty. Nobody wants Robinson, he is hard to integrate into just any offense. His defense isnt what you would cal…good. They do have Cook as another wing they can use , and Harden can take on a larger role. Sefelosha is capable of playing SF so the wings arent an issue. Low post scoring may not be much of an issue either now that Perkins is around. He is an underrated post scorer and I remember him and his agent insisting he wanted to be an Allstar one day, heres his chance.

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  • #501699
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    I think they need a championship before we can crown tem a championship, and a dynasty before we can crown hem a dynasty. Nobody wants Robinson, he is hard to integrate into just any offense. His defense isnt what you would cal…good. They do have Cook as another wing they can use , and Harden can take on a larger role. Sefelosha is capable of playing SF so the wings arent an issue. Low post scoring may not be much of an issue either now that Perkins is around. He is an underrated post scorer and I remember him and his agent insisting he wanted to be an Allstar one day, heres his chance.

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  • #501797
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    I do agree with resigning perkins. I think that was a great move and since Perkins is still in his prime, a 5-6 year deal for about $25-30 million wouldnt be bad for a decent center. Aldrich backing up should be better next season and will play a huge role for them.

    I would like to say this and I may get some arguements from people on this but I honestly feel like trading Harden away would be best for the team. I think he’s a little overrated. I can’t help but feel like the Thunder think Harden will be a "Manu Ginobili" kind of guy for them and I just don’t see him doing that. I think he will be a journey man (maybe like a Salmons at best?) and I think some team would sign him to a huge extension and over pay. If I’m the Thunder, I consider packing Harden and Maynor or something else for a better big man. Jason Thompson is a great fit IMO (long, athletic, and fast) but maybe the Jazz would be willing to part with Millsap for Harden and some other combination of players if they wanted to rebuild.

    I like Nate for the team though, I think he is a great high energy guy for them

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  • #501705
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    I do agree with resigning perkins. I think that was a great move and since Perkins is still in his prime, a 5-6 year deal for about $25-30 million wouldnt be bad for a decent center. Aldrich backing up should be better next season and will play a huge role for them.

    I would like to say this and I may get some arguements from people on this but I honestly feel like trading Harden away would be best for the team. I think he’s a little overrated. I can’t help but feel like the Thunder think Harden will be a "Manu Ginobili" kind of guy for them and I just don’t see him doing that. I think he will be a journey man (maybe like a Salmons at best?) and I think some team would sign him to a huge extension and over pay. If I’m the Thunder, I consider packing Harden and Maynor or something else for a better big man. Jason Thompson is a great fit IMO (long, athletic, and fast) but maybe the Jazz would be willing to part with Millsap for Harden and some other combination of players if they wanted to rebuild.

    I like Nate for the team though, I think he is a great high energy guy for them

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  • #501803
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    Ummmm yeah i dont think 5-6 30mil is gonna cut it. i think the Celtics offered more than that and he turned it down plus there are other centers getting paid more than that. That’s Mid Level exception money

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  • #501711
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    Ummmm yeah i dont think 5-6 30mil is gonna cut it. i think the Celtics offered more than that and he turned it down plus there are other centers getting paid more than that. That’s Mid Level exception money

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  • #501805
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    Perkins turned down a 4year- 30 million contract extension with the Celtics. The Thunder are going to pay him this summer.

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  • #501713
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    Tyrober
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    Perkins turned down a 4year- 30 million contract extension with the Celtics. The Thunder are going to pay him this summer.

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  • #501811
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    I’m going to say a 4 year 35-40mil.

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  • #501718
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    I’m going to say a 4 year 35-40mil.

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  • #501825
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    The lake show2

    I think he gets the amount he deserves. The thunder can afford it and still have money left over

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  • #501732
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    The lake show2

    I think he gets the amount he deserves. The thunder can afford it and still have money left over

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  • #501831
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    I’m guessing 5-40 only because he will be looking for a good payday. That, with the potential Nene becomes a FA, means his price goes up.

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  • #501738
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    I’m guessing 5-40 only because he will be looking for a good payday. That, with the potential Nene becomes a FA, means his price goes up.

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  • #501835
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    The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or  Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer

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  • #501742
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    The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or  Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer

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    • #502108
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      The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer

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      Really? I feel like they need a low post scorer at the 4. Like Carl Landry, Zach Randolph or Paul Millsap (If Utah is more willing to trade him in order to develop Favors).

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    • #502014
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      The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer

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      Really? I feel like they need a low post scorer at the 4. Like Carl Landry, Zach Randolph or Paul Millsap (If Utah is more willing to trade him in order to develop Favors).

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  • #501839
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     I just hate these center’s contracts nowadays. I hate bad contracts but living in Philly is should be used to it by now. Everyone gets overpaid. I know the position is hard to find but it drives me crazy when players like Dalembert, Dampier or more recently Brendon Haywood last year get paid like $10-12 million a year for such minimal stats

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  • #501746
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     I just hate these center’s contracts nowadays. I hate bad contracts but living in Philly is should be used to it by now. Everyone gets overpaid. I know the position is hard to find but it drives me crazy when players like Dalembert, Dampier or more recently Brendon Haywood last year get paid like $10-12 million a year for such minimal stats

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  • #501849
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    As a Celtics fan, Perkins is not an underrated post scorer.  He may get easy touches now and then because of his strength and the fact that Garnett attracts the other team’s best post defender, but Perkins has poor touch and very few post moves.  The Thunder would be best served asking him to do nothing more than set picks, finish at the rim, and grab offensive rebounds, and not to create his own offense.

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  • #501756
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    As a Celtics fan, Perkins is not an underrated post scorer.  He may get easy touches now and then because of his strength and the fact that Garnett attracts the other team’s best post defender, but Perkins has poor touch and very few post moves.  The Thunder would be best served asking him to do nothing more than set picks, finish at the rim, and grab offensive rebounds, and not to create his own offense.

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  • #501762
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    Yeah I heard he wants more than B Haywood got because he is a back up and Perk is a starter. I am glad the C’s did not overpay for him. Think with your head not your heart in NBA business. Perk was very bad on O and constantly did not finish easy baskets around the hoop. Shaq dunks everything and big baby plays good D and scores so he was expendable.

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  • #501855
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    Yeah I heard he wants more than B Haywood got because he is a back up and Perk is a starter. I am glad the C’s did not overpay for him. Think with your head not your heart in NBA business. Perk was very bad on O and constantly did not finish easy baskets around the hoop. Shaq dunks everything and big baby plays good D and scores so he was expendable.

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  • #501786
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    "The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer”

    Oklaholma City Recieves
    Andrea Bargnani
    Jerryd Bayless

    Toronto Recieves
    James Harden
    Cole Aldrich
    Nate Robinson
    Rights to Tibor Pleiss
    1st Round Pick 2012

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  • #501879
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    "The Thunder need a offensive/stretch 4 that can come off the bench like Troy Murphy, Earl Clark, or Anthony Randolph to compliment Ibaka and the lack of big-scoring they have with the loss of Jeff Green. Or draft a guy like Jon Leuer”

    Oklaholma City Recieves
    Andrea Bargnani
    Jerryd Bayless

    Toronto Recieves
    James Harden
    Cole Aldrich
    Nate Robinson
    Rights to Tibor Pleiss
    1st Round Pick 2012

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  • #501791
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    No the Thunder lose way too muchin that trade. James Harden is playing really well and Cole Aldrich is making plays defensively when he is in the game 

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  • #501885
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    No the Thunder lose way too muchin that trade. James Harden is playing really well and Cole Aldrich is making plays defensively when he is in the game 

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  • #502020
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    That’s the thing though, I figured a low post scorer would be nice for them, but Jeff Green was so effective offensively (give or take) because ofhis mismatch potential for being able to shoot the outside shot as well as score in the paint. Carl Landry, Zach randolph and Paul Milsap would definately be great for this team though!! 

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  • #502114
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    That’s the thing though, I figured a low post scorer would be nice for them, but Jeff Green was so effective offensively (give or take) because ofhis mismatch potential for being able to shoot the outside shot as well as score in the paint. Carl Landry, Zach randolph and Paul Milsap would definately be great for this team though!! 

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  • #502056
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    Perkins is looking for Brendan Haywood money…

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  • #502151
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    Perkins is looking for Brendan Haywood money…

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  • #502066
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    I believe there was an article saying the actuall offer to Perk was 4years at 22mil. Which I would balk at as well. Given the market, Perk looks around and sees Haywood pulling 8-10 mil given the year of the contract, and Bynum making anywhere between 13-16 given the year while giving less than or equal to the impact of Perkins. Hopefully Perkins knee injury doesn’t cost him any money. Man I would loved to see a player like Oden when he was coming out of college playing with OKC. That team would be unmatched athletically. 

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  • #502161
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    I believe there was an article saying the actuall offer to Perk was 4years at 22mil. Which I would balk at as well. Given the market, Perk looks around and sees Haywood pulling 8-10 mil given the year of the contract, and Bynum making anywhere between 13-16 given the year while giving less than or equal to the impact of Perkins. Hopefully Perkins knee injury doesn’t cost him any money. Man I would loved to see a player like Oden when he was coming out of college playing with OKC. That team would be unmatched athletically. 

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