Okc future draft
Does okc have a chance of moving up and getting into say the top 10 while keeping there core three guys? I would love to see them get Whiteside because the positive young environment would allow him to prosper.
Why would a young environment allow Whiteside to prosper? I think he could be decent in OKC but he would benefit from learning under a great vet. I think he needs to go somewhere with an established defensive low post presence who he can learn from for a couple years. A guy like Marcus Camby or someone with experience can really show him the ropes. Whiteside has plenty of potential and talent, but I think the learning curve from playing ball at Marshall to playing against NBA big men is going to be extensive.
As far as moving up, top 10 could be tough unless they are willing to give up Collison/Sfeolosha/Maynor/Picks. I think they could move up a bit though and maybe grab a guy like Babbitt if he drops, Whiteside (as you stated), Sanders, Udoh... But they could also just stay put as this draft is pretty deep. Keeping all 3 of their picks could be very beneficial.
Moving up wouldn't be a terrible idea. Maybe if they sent the 21, 26, and 32 for Memphis's 12 and take Cole Aldrich. Memphis gets a bunch of picks to add depth to their bench and OKC gets a defensive minded big center that they need. They would probably have to give at least one more asset to Memphis but i don't think anything major, maybe take on a bad contract of Memphis if they have any.
I say okc for Whiteside because all of the young players work very very hard there and all have positive attitudes. If he lands somewhere and is degraded and scrutinized he won't prosper. I do understand the veteran approach to.
By the way i didn't mean to make the two posts and i don't know how to delete it so any help i will delete it
Needs some more role players that are good. i agree but i think they need more of a big man presence over a few mediocre players
In the future, I anticipate the 3 core players of OKC to be Westbrook, Durant and... Harden. I think Green gets traded. OKC is faced with extensions and Green is a much better SF then he is a PF. Since Durant plays SF its only really possible to play Green and Durant at the same time when the Thunder are playing semi-small ball, or as a sub for Durant. OKC would be remiss to tie up 50 or 60 million in a player who is not a true PF and plays a similar position to Durant.
I like Green... but ideally you want to tie up your major money in your starting five. Green can't reliably guard the Amare's, Boozers and Gasol's of the league.
OKC has exclusively been drafting talented athletes for their roster. They have some real thoroughbred's on that team. In the first round against the Lakers, they showed their youth and weren't the better technical team but they were running the lakers out of the gym in some games. If there hadn't been such long layoffs between games in the first round and the Lakers had been forced to play every second day, it might have been a different series.
If OKC trades up in this draft,...its going to be for an athletic bigman. Ideally a center but perhaps a 4. The player is going to have to be very athletic. Aldrich might make it if they get him working on his body like they do everyone else on that team. Whiteside won't interest them, his offense and shot are terrible. Monroe doesn't seem agile enough and he plays under the rim too much. They won't want Cousins personality in their locker room. Maybe Ekpe Udoh. Patterson would be ideal. Start Ibaka at the 5 and play Patterson at the 4. Collison is a nic play but frequently injured and more of a 4 then a 5. In the future when OKC finds the true center they've been looking for they would have a nice 3 man playoff frontline of patterson, ibaka and whoever the center ends up being. All athletes, high character, capable offensively and defensively. So seems Presti's vision anyways.
OKC has an enviable cap situation for the next few seasons...especially if they don't extend Green to a massive contract. He is a perfect sixth man on this team but a decent starter on some other teams. Their options are limitless right now. Next summer they currently only have QO's/extensions to Durant/Green to deal with. Its team options for everyone else. So they will have a approx 38 million (35-36 without White or Weaver options) tied up if they pick up all their options and Durant is signed to his max contract. If you throw another 8-10 million per as a starting salary at green your now around 46-48 million after next summer. (none of these figures include money for their draft picks)
I think Westbrook and Maynor stick around for the long term at the PG spot. You have Harden(sg) and Sefolosha(sg/sf). I don't know that Weaver or Dj white have a long term future with OKC but its possible. Durant (sf) and Ibaka (pf/c, preferably pf.) Collison might be resigned but Kristic, Collison, White and Weaver represent 15.5 million in expiring contracts this season and you have Green as trade bait aswell. Limitless options on this team. It should be really interesting to see where OKC goes from here. Lets hope they don't screw it all up.
The way this draft is shaping up with guards and wings rising up draft boards, OKC could stand put and draft a frontcourt starter at 21 or 26, and then a good rotation player at 32. There is a player named Kevin Seraphin for example that should be available in the 20s that is as good a bigman prospect as there is in this draft. Biggest sleeper of the first round. According to my calculations, here is the pool of players that could be available from 21 to 26 according to OKC's needs:
Whiteside (long shot to free fall)
I agree with hotsnot they need a big & green will get traded I see themtrading green\maynor\1st\future 1 for amare. That would give thema legit big who can play 4 or 5 & is very athletic so they can get out & run.
Green can be a top 6 man right now if they pick up a solid 4 man. Also if there is not player that OKC likes they use just trade their pick to teams and try to get a future first rounder for some of their picks because they only need to 2 more roster spots I think. I would stand pat and grab a big in the 1st round and trade the other pick and take a big or small forward with the second round pick.
Well they should keep one of the picks. Ebanks or Robinson might be there, and if they pick up one of those guys then they get the long term back up to Durant they need. (keeping in mind that Green is not a bench player yet) Also if they get a Larry Saunders, then they could just stay put and let them grow. Add a decent vet, and they are solid. If they were to move up I think it would be for someone like Babbit because of his shooting and ability to play two positions.
Okc doesn't want amare that would ruin what they have going
They run a 9 man rotation, and 7 of them are going to be on the team for a long time:
Kristic and Collison are expiring this year, leaving them with needing 2 more bigmen if they choose not to resign, but they seem to like both, so who knows.
Basically, they don't have room on their team for 3 more players. It would be a waste to keep all those picks, which is why I think Presti is working hard on a deal to move them up or get a good player, most likely a C.