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OKC Draft

Thunder are in win now mode, so they pick the biggest prospect in the draft at #12 in Steven Adams. I'm not impressed with Adams at all, as I've said before. He will rot in the DLeague and more than likely never become the player he *could* be just like the other prospect Centers the Thunder/Sonics have picked the past 10 years. This was not a win now pick, nor a need pick. A few years ago when the Thunder were still rebuilding with young promising players I would have loved this pick, but when you're knocking on the doors of the finals it makes no sense, especially when you have glaring holes in your armor.

They follow this pick up with a reach of Goodwin, whom is also a prospect and a wildcard. They then trade him for Roberson who was probably the biggest reach of the draft, and fits absolutely no needs for OKC. He will rot in the DLeague alongside Adams. It's sad because as much as I didn't care for the Goodwin pick, he was a better fit than Roberson.

Then they follow those terrible picks up with a stash player in Abrines who may never play in the US ever. As much success as Abrines has had overseas I can't see him wanting to come over here to sit on the bench all season. I know Presti is famous for stash players, but I feel if you were going to stash a player it should have been with the first round pick, but instead they used that on a guaranteed contract...

Can someone please explain to me Presti's thinking? They were in prime position to get a couple role players that are ready to play right now, instead they get questionable prospects. Presti gets a lot of hype but he has not impressed me this past year, at all. I'm tired of standing up for Presti and the Harden trade. I've fought to see a positive in the Harden trade but I cannot fight it anymore. Part of the trade was some of these picks, and they were all bad picks.

We now have no Harden, no KMart(expected to not resign), a couple of picks that will probably never play more than garbage minutes. I guess all my hopes fall upon Jeremy Lamb to live up to his potential? Because that's about all there is to look forward to at this point.

I doubt I'm as mad as Celtics fans are right now, but it's pretty close.

Thunder Draft Grade: D


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Yeah I wasn't happy at all

Yeah I wasn't happy at all about this draft either. I didn't mind the Steven Adams pick because he filled a need, but I'm not a fan of the other picks at all. I thought Nate Wolters, Jamaal Franklin, or Allen Crabbe would all have been good picks and good value at those late 1st-early 2nd picks. And I'm a Kentucky guy so I would have loved to have Archie Goodwin because he has huge upside and wouldn't have been pressured to produce right away. I guess I'm just gonna have to wait and see how these players turn out, because they were definitely questionable picks.

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The reason I'm not fond of

The reason I'm not fond of Adams is I don't think he's much better than Thabeet. We now have too many defensive centers in Perkins, Thabeet, Adams, and Collison/Ibaka get center minutes as well. We still have zero post scoring. So no I don't think Adams was a need, sure we needed a center, but we needed a center that could put the ball in the basket consistently.

If they weren't high on the other centers in that range they could have just taken some legit role players like Shabazz for example, Durant doesn't really have a backup and Bazz could have filled that role. I'm not big on Bazz but I'd take him over Adams any day. I also think Karasev could have been a decent backup SG/SF as well. I was primarily hoping they'd make a trade and get Zeller though, he'd been about as perfect of a fit as there is in this draft.

I'm stunned they passed on guys like Crabbe, Canaan, Rice, Mitchell, Wolters, Franklin. All of which I feel were ready to play RIGHT NOW and are probably going to end up better than Roberson ever will.

If I'm wrong and Adams/Roberson turn out to be studs then I'll be the first to own up to it and say I was wrong, but luckily that's not going to happen.

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Yeah I was also really hoping

Yeah I was also really hoping for a Cody Zeller trade, even if that meant trading a couple of our young pieces. And I completely forgot that we passed on Shabazz......I'm upset. Hopefully we're wrong about this because I'm not too hopeful

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Their biggest problem was

Their biggest problem was they had the 12th pick in a 10 or 11 player draft (at least from the way it looks before any of them play an NBA game). Adams was the logical choice because he was the highest upside player available at that point. He isn't going to come in and help much right away but do you really think Olynyk or whoever else they would have picked at that point would have put them over the top?

My feelings about OKC are that they intend on being really good for a long time instead of great for a shorter time. They could have held onto Harden if they really wanted to but those chose to save money instead. They pick players like PJ3 and now Adams who are more upside guys. I would swing for the fences too If I was drafting for a team that already is one of the 3 best teams in the league.

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Totally agree, OKC was

Totally agree, OKC was thinking the could get a top 5 pick when they made the Harden trade (horrible trade in retrospect). At 12, who else would OKC take? Adams has the potential in 2-4 years to develop into a very good offensive Center and give OKC their much need low-post scorer. Granted, OKC is in win now mode, but this was the best move. Not in the short term, but who else do they take, Plumlee a career back-up? Muhammed after OKC recieved Lamb for the Harden trade?

Also I think you're being waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too harsh, you haven't even seen any rookies play a single NBA game. I may think Bennett and McLemore will be busts, but I'm not going to chastise Cavs or Kings right away, I'll wait to see.

Roberson is good value at the end of the 1st, he'll at least bring rebounding and defense. May not be a need, but always can be used.

Abrines is a great pick in the 2nd. No reason for OKC to carry 3 rookies when Lamb and Jones are there also. Abrines has the chance to be a very good offensive player, like Rudy Fernadez could have been. In two years, he could be a great addition to their roster.

Really, OKC wasn't inclined in their situation to really add an impact rookie who fits a need. I would've thought OKC would trade their #12 pick to get a veteran Center who can score in the paint and post-up. Maybe they can find a way to bring Al Jefferson, seem like a perfect match.

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I think the Thunder passed on

I think the Thunder passed on Shabazz is likely because they believe they have their backup swingman in Jeremy Lamb. I may be overly optimistic but I expect Kevin Martin to walk and Lamb to be extremely solid on both ends for the Thunder. I understand the concern taking Steven Adams but he just has considerable upside with an NBA ready body.

Again I may be overly optimistic but I feel like Adams can have an Andre Drummond like rookie year where he plays well in his limited minutes and continues forcing the coach to play him more. I felt Kelly Olynyk would likely have been a wasted pick because while he can score well from the post and outside that he does everything else below average. Olynyk will likely be a poor defender and rebounder on the NBA level because he has little athleticism. Olynyk's best case comparison to me is Spencer Hawes which as someone who lives near Philadelphia is not encouraging. If Adams defends well and rebounds hard consistently he will likely be the Thunders best center by the end of next season. Perkins is big and lumbering...at this point he's really not useful for anything more than hard fouls. He doesn't rebound well or even defend that well anymore. Thabeet should feel grateful that he's a seven footer otherwise he'd be overseas at this point.

I personally still believe going after Marcin Gortat would've been the Thunder's best option, but think Adams will pan out for them.

The other picks do seem to be headscratchers though since OKC need more guys that can create their own offense and get others involved.

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Goodwin got traded to the

Roberson is a guy who can at least come in and bring some rebounding toughness I guess. I personally like him.

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I like Adams and actually

I like Adams and actually think you've got it backwards. This pick would have been terrible several years ago because there was no established nucleus and they would have called on Adams to deliver too soon. Now they can let him develop at his pace and have a good leadership in place. The Roberson pick was a head scratcher though.

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If we would've picked up Nate

If we would've picked up Nate Wolters at #32 I would've felt better about our draft. He was one of my top 5 favorite prospects and I think he's one of the most NBA ready draftees

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