THE OFFICAL USA-BRAZIL THREAD!
I think that he needs to play with a guy that is a beast on the block.. Not because he is a catch and shoot type of guy but because he knows how to find people and capitalize on a defender trying to close out on him... Put him in NJ, Orlando, or JY and he will be a better player..
I disagree I think he needs perimeter bigs who can float to the perimeter and leave the lane unclogged. Iggy is a slasher not a shooter.
"He's been a 1st option on a team that's won a playoff game. Twice."
I meant a first round series, not game.
I'm not hating on Iguodala. I've liked him since Arizona. It's just that when I think of second options on championship caliber teams, I think of Pau Gasol, Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer, Brandon Roy (who I think is really a second option on a championship caliber team), etc.
I just don't think Iguodala is a consistent enough/reliable scorer. That doesn't mean I don't think he's good. I think he'd thrive in the third option role, while being able to play his usual all-around game.
See.. To me, the fact that he slashes makes it easier if he has a stud on the block.. Then, he has a guy to dump the ball to incase he gets trapped, or, he can turn and kick the ball out.. If his only option is to stop and kick the ball out after her drives, then people will defend that. BUT, if he has a guy on the block along with shooters, then he would be far more effective..
Billups playing like crud.
I can see where you're coming from now Indianabasketball
I repeat, Billups playing like crud.
it seems like the refs arent calling a few fouls on USA
They need to take out Billups and Odom, Billups is playing poorly and Odom is playing tired. I wouldn't mind if they put in Gay and Chandler.
sorry double post.
Whoever said iggy has bad D is smoking some kush right about now. I think he has 4 or maybe 5 steals in the game. He is extremely active
I guess it's unpopular to say it, but I'm disappointed with the way Rose is defending the pick and roll. That point guard is getting too much penetration in my opinion...
Steals doesn't equate good defense.
Guru, he has 2 steals, but he has been active on defense.
Awful call on a flop.
Barbosa has went ice cold.
@ about 5 left. But man, the US has missed some gimmes and gotten very lucky. Durant seems to have a 6 inch height advantage on his man, but his block on Splitter was nice. Billups and Odom missed sure lay-ins, and Odom definitely got away with steps on that spin move and still misses! Come on USA, you have to do better than this!
Derrick Rose getting taken off of the dribble again...
Who Just saw Iggy get his ankles broken!!!!
But that last drive was cold as ice! Man, Leandrinho has game, though I have seen him miss quite a bit. The US has to be thanking the lord Marcellino just missed. 3 times in a row! Wow, they won, but Brazil kept it super close!
Kevin Love get's MVP. Haha.
Game saving alteration of Barbosa's layup.
Kevin Love with the big Defensive stop. I feel like every time he is on the court he does something good.
Geez that was close. Imagine what it could have been if Varejao didn't have to sit out the game with the ankle injury. Odom and Love were horrific guarding the pick and roll and the guards weren't disciplined enough on defense.
Knicksfan he had 5 steals
According to espn at the time I checked he only had 2, but no sense in arguing over something menial.
he had 2 in the first quarter. Just stating some facts. Also 5 steals = active defense = GOOD DEFENSE!
Indiana, sorry I was hear to help you with Iggy. It's simple as this
12 million, he's a second option. Not a good combo.
I'm not surprised with the USA-Brazil game. Brazil has good players and some solid NBA players.
You can't let a players salary determine what they are as an option. If we go by that then Eddy Curry at 11 million is a second option. Iggy is a 3rd option on a championship caliber team b/c he has a very good all around game, but isn't the scorer to be a 2nd option. He won't eclipse the 20 ppg game mark for a season more than once, idk if he will ever do it.
You can't let a players salary determine what they are as an option.
Never did, just stating his salary and what he is. He's a robin, a overpaid robin in the NBA. It doesn't surprise me he think he's better then he is. To me, he's taken the biggest hit in these games. He cannot shoot, he's just a long defender and that's it.
He's not a great shooter, but his passing abilities he can take to his advantage when he drives to the basket rather than forcing stuff. A lot of the teams know to collapse on guys when they drive and make the Americans shoot from the perimeter in order to beat them.
iggy is a #2 option.
IF Iguodala is a second option, then what is Pau Gasol?
look if you enjoy sucking pau gasol's dick that's fine with me
Realistically, he's only playing because he's a good defender.
Lamar Odom could pass better then him, he could do the same thing. He's not clutch and he always makes that " How is that foul on me face" when he gets called on ( which I hate). Iggy is just someone who I expected to do well because he was a vet on this team and he's done the opposite.
To me, he went from 2nd option to 3rd option on a title team to me.
Man. I missed the whole game.
Rose sucked on defense. I don't understand how someone so athletic and quick can be suck a bad defender. I don't see the improved jumper. In the lol min Westbrook got he was unimpressive as well with his decision making. Billuos played pretty well and realizes u can't go full speed all the time when making a play on offense
Quincey I can agree with everything you said except for the improved Jumper on Rose's part. Maybe it hasn't improved, but he is definitely a lot more confident taking it, and is making them at a better rate, so yeah that is basically improving lol.
How is he making them at a better rate? From what I see his true jump shooting percentage hasn't improved(that doesn't include layups or floaters)
i saw some fine b*tches on tv
look if you enjoy sucking pau gasol's dick that's fine with me
What the hell are you talking about?
Sooo manhy villians show up in one day
Coach K didn't play Granger and Curry.
I might get bashed for this, but Brazil defiantely should have won, based on how the U.S. played. Barbosa usually doesn't shoot that poorly and he forced some shots, too. Varejao would have been helpful, too but if Nene hadn't been hurt this would have been a completely different game.
On a different note, I gotta agree Quincey, how can someone so quick and athletic like Rose be such a God-awful defender?
Kevin Love could be 6'11 or taller because Kevin Durant is at least 6'11" with shoes but at worst is 6'10 and a half in shoes. Dude was 6'9" and some change out of college at 19.
I think Iguodala is a great defender, as well as a great athlete and finisher. He has the perfect combination of length and quickness to play great defense on positions 1-3, as well as play the passing lanes. He is also a very mature player who seems like he really gives full effort on every play.
I think offensively his jumper is streaky and his handle is suspect at times, but he is good enough moving without the ball and finishing in transition to compensate so that he could be a #2 scorer on a championship team, but not necessarily the #2 option in a halfcourt set. For instance, if he was traded to the Lakers I would still consider Kobe #1, Pau #2, and Iguodala #3 in the halfcourt, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Iguodala put up a higher scoring average than Gasol due to his activity in the open court.
durant is 6'10 he looks taller because hes long but he's 6'10