Wolves fans were optimistic when David Kahn was fired and replaced by Flip Saunders. They thought the poor drafts would be over in the new era under Saunders. Then the draft happened. On this forum and others, Wolves fans made it clear that they wanted the team to draft a solid shooter like KCP or CJ McCollum. Obviously Flip drafted Trey Burke at #9 and traded him to Utah for their two picks and most Minnesota fans were pissed. McCollum was drafted right after them at #10, and the Wolves settled for Shabazz Muhammad, the most polarizing player in the draft.
During the press conference after the draft, Flip stated that Bazz was "NBA ready." As if McCollum wasn't. He was defending his pick after hearing that most Wolves fans were not happy with the team selecting Muhammad.
So far in Summer League (yeah, it's only Summer League,) Shabazz has looked like most of us thought he would, minus the scoring. He's extremely slow on defense and will have no business guarding NBA 2 guards. He still can't go left. His handles are weak, and dribbling poor. Definitely not NBA ready no matter which team he's on.
I live in LA and watched almost every UCLA game. I wanted to like Shabazz as a player, but I just don't see it. I think Flip Saunders made a big mistake.
still cant go left? he's left handed
He'll be fine he has a great feel to score the ball. He has a soft touch around the basket and he has a pure lefty stroke so he'll always shoot at a pretty high percentage. However I don't think he can defend against NBA 2 guards. He'll be a solid 3. NBA ready
Except that in college he shot 44% FG and 53 TS% which are not high percentages. So you might be right that he will always shoot a pretty high percentage, but only if we exclude last season. And I suppose this summer league needs to be excluded.
And can't and won't do anything else other than shoot.
honestly I'd rather have Brandon Paul than Shabazz right know, at least he makes an effort on D and doesn't jump up and down demanding the ball.
You are talking about one player on a 15 man roster. If a team is assembled correctly it will not matter that a rookie performs like a rookie. Rookies on teams hoping to win generally don't play many minutes there 1st season.
When the Wolves picked Burke, I was thinking "Ok. Flip's on the phone trying to get KCP out of Detroit, and will give up Barea/Ridnour and Burke for him." But then, I realized, this is the Wolves we're talking here. Nothing they do ever makes basketball sense. Lo and behold, we trade down for Bazz. YOU HAD ONE JOB!
Flip Saunders is qualified enough to call somebody NBA ready and he believes Muhammad is. Rick Adelman is another one of those 'sensei' type figures in basketball who can distinguish the legit product from the made-in-China knock offs. One thing is for certain, we won't get an answer in the NBA summer league.
Bazz sucks at passing so he's going to be terrible in Adelman's system.
I cannot wait until the season starts and Shabazz turns out to be a solid player...
Well let's see. But if we come back here and he is averaging 15 points per game on terrible shooting percentages and no assists, no steals and no blocks while playing bad D and you say, See! He's an NBA ready player." Then I'm to just write you off. He has to play better than he did at UCLA to actually be a legit NBA player. He can't just score inefficiently.
Bazz will hardly play his first season. D Williams got a small number of minutes his first year and he is possibly better than Bazz. Bazz should show something more in his 2nd year. Look at the roster. Who is Bazz going to outplay for minutes.
Exactly Sheltwon...Tallman, Bazz won't play enough to average 15 a game, especially if he doesn't end up shooting well. Adelman will bring him along very slowly. People are WAY overreacting to his performance in Summer League so far. I only saw the first game and some short stretches of the other two, but I have been pretty happy with the way he's played. I'm glad that he didn't come into Summer League chucking and instead has shown that he's willing to play within the system and not just try to shoot every time he gets it. People rip on his passing ability, but I actually think he's a decent passer he just didn't show it at all at UCLA. I guarantee that the coaching staff has been telling him to work on playing within the system and it seems he's trying to do that which is a good sign. The Wolves are using Summer League as an opportunity for their young guys to gain experience in the roles they'll likely be in during the regular season as opposed to some teams who have their players work on stuff they will never do in an actual game. Also, in the game I saw his defense didn't look as bad as everyone else is making it seem. Like I said, I only saw the first game so maybe the other two were complete disasters, but judging from the box scores it looks like the games were similar to the first one. I think it's a good sign that he hasn't taken more than 10 shots in any one game. The most concerning thing to me has been the turnovers and there's no doubt he needs to improve his handle, but it's not like he's going to be handling the ball or having to create his own shot that much during the regular season, that's what Rubio's for. I understand all the skepticism, but I think people need to give it some more time before jumping to conclusions.