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Nik Stauskas & GR-3

They have officially declared for the draft.


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I think Caris LaVert and Zak

I think Caris LaVert and Zak Irvin will be menaces this year

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Where should GRIII's

Where should GRIII's placement be?

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Is GRIII GREAT at anything or

Is GRIII GREAT at anything or is he just a good all around player? Watched him a few times wasn't hugely impressed. Maybe he is an acquired taste.

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GR 3 reminds me of Joe

GR 3 reminds me of Joe Johnson he going to be a quiet star in the league

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I feel like

GRIII was quickly falling in McAdoo's situation where his stock kept falling and staying would only make him older and his "potential" tag smaller. I think he will be one of the last 2 players picked in the first rd (but obviously could easily be a 2nd rounder)

Stauskas is one I can't peg for placement. Instead I'm just hoping he is there for the Bulls 1st pick...

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Why do they compare Nik to

Why do they compare Nik to Kapono? He plays nothing like Jason lol

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lol you know why..

lol you know why..

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I see good size, elite

I see good size, elite shooter, very good ball handler.....Ray Allen is my comp.

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I really like Stauskas...He

I really like Stauskas...He showed he is more than just a shooter in this years tournament run for Michigan. He was sensational against Kentucky. He is more than just a spot up shooter and has a decent handle and pretty good athleticism. He can put the ball on the floor consistently. He will obviously be a defesnive liability in the NBA but he is a knock down shooter and should be a solid NBA player.

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I would take Nick over

I would take Nick over McBuckets...I think Nick is underrated

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Poor McGary. All the guys he

Poor McGary. All the guys he came in with have bolted on him.

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dont feel bad for him. he

dont feel bad for him.

he made one of the worst decisions by coming back in recent memory.

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If he tests out

If he tests out athletically adequate for that 2g position I.e. 36-37 vertical I take him before Gary Harris

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dude, gary harris put up

dude, gary harris put up almost the exact same numbers except better defensive stats. gary harris ALL day.

not to mention stauskas was one of the only bigtime scorers on the wolverines.

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Exactly, so he also had to

Exactly, so he also had to deal with other teams game planning for him and trying to take the ball out of his hands all game.

Harris vs Stauskas is one of the tougher position vs position decisions a GM will have to make probably.

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Disagree.

They may have put up similar raw numbers, but that's why raw numbers suck.

TS%: Stauskas - 64.2% Harris - 56.1%; eFG%: Stauskas - 58.6% Harris - 51.8%; TRB%: Stauskas - 5.3% Harris - 7.3%; AST%: Stauskas - 18.8% Harris - 16.8%; TOV%: Stauskas - 12.0% Harris - 10.3%

Stauskas blows Harris out of the water from an efficiency standpoint. Yeah, Harris is a clearly better defender, but Stauskas is clearly the better scorer.

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Disagree.

They may have put up similar raw numbers, but that's why raw numbers suck.

TS%: Stauskas - 64.2% Harris - 56.1%; eFG%: Stauskas - 58.6% Harris - 51.8%; TRB%: Stauskas - 5.3% Harris - 7.3%; AST%: Stauskas - 18.8% Harris - 16.8%; TOV%: Stauskas - 12.0% Harris - 10.3%

Stauskas blows Harris out of the water from an efficiency standpoint. Yeah, Harris is a clearly better defender, but Stauskas is clearly the better scorer.

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GR3 was never anything

GR3 was never anything special. Aran for some reason had him in the late lotto most of last year and as per usual alot of the sheep on here were hyping him up last season. His truth worth has been shown this season.

Stauskas as we all know is a great shooter but he is also one hell of a good passer also which is quite rare for a shooter...

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Psshhh

sheeple.

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GR3 will be a steal. People

GR3 will be a steal. People said the same thing abot Tim Hardaway Jr.

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I think Robinson can be "a

I think Robinson can be "a guy" in the league - nothing special, but nothing detrimental. That was not going to change with one more year in school. If he really just felt like playing basketball, he ought to go. I am sure his family can advise him as well as any.

I think Stauskus is making a good decion, too. It is doubtful he would develop as much between this year and next as he did since last season. It might look like he had stagnated. I think he is going to be a pretty good player - someone who gets respectable minutes once he gets his feet under him.

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I wish the best for GRIII, he

I wish the best for GRIII, he seems like a great dude and he plays hard. But despite his falling stock, he really should have returned to school. I think we can all agree, that it's hard in today's league to be a wing with a below-average jump shot. And yes, GRIII is a below average shooter by NBA standards.

Now, he could work on that area of his game- it's been done before. But how fast can that happen? And how will he contribute to a team until he gets a jumper? I've watched almost every Michigan game, Glenn can not create his own shot. Like Poythress, he needs to be set up since he really shouldn't be dribbling the ball for more than 3 bounces at a time. He better be ready to be a defensive hound in NBA workouts because that's the only way he'll be able to stand out at this point in his basketball career.

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I am a Wolverines fan and

I am a Wolverines fan and agree with this.

Re: Tim Hardaway - He is not that great, he only got minutes as he is on the Knicks. Do you think he would of been that good if he was playing for a playoff or contending team - OKC, Spurs, Miami, Indiana, Clips etc.

In case you have forgotten this guy you might need to google him - Landry Fields put up similar stats in his rookie year in NY. Where is he now ?

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Wait, did you quote a

Wait, did you quote a previous post of mine? It reads as my prose. I usually use the hyphens when I'm impatient.

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I watched GRIII play against

I watched GRIII play against Tennessee, there he showed flashes of a jump shot, being able to convert from 3 in college as well. He can do a lot of things on the court, moves really well and has the possibility to become a plus-defender on the wing. He might not be completely comfortable creating his own shot, but in the NBA he will be a complementary piece anyway so he should primarily be able to contribute without the ball in his hands (which I think he is every capable off; see his fr. year with Burke at the point).

He provides good value at the later part of the first round (20-30), where teams like OKC, SAS and LAC might want to scoop him up.

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A lot sleep on GRll like they

A lot sleep on GRll like they were sleeping on Hardaway Jr. last year, i hope teams will not do the same mistake with GR, he could be solid player in the league ala Caron Butler...

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Gary Harris

Put up the same numbers but who was game planning for him like they were game planning for Stauskas. Yes he put up better defensive numbers however Stauskas is miles ahead of him offensively. He can create his own shot and get shots for others, plus he has ideal size for the position. I don't personally think Gary Harris is better than Beal or T Ross. Stauskas was the LEAD DOG on that Mich squad and their best player, Gary Harris was not. I respect your opinion on Harris but Stauskas every day!!! (If he tests positive)

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Gary Harris was definitely

Gary Harris was definitely Michigan State's best player. Not sure why you think he wasn't their lead dog. It was up for debate who the Big Ten player of the year was all season long. There was a time when Stauskas was slumping very badly in the middle of the Big Ten season and most people were assuming Harris was the Big Ten player of the year at that point. Stauskas finished well and led the Wolverines to the regular season title but it wasn't a foregone conclusion that Satuskas was the MVP of the league even after that. There was a time when Gary Harris was literally the only threat for MSU on the floor when so many of MSU's players were getting hurt. He was getting all of the defensive attention of the other team.

Harris was a beast this year. He was the defensive player of the year in the Big Ten. He is a lockdown perimeter defender. One problem for Harris is that Michigan State's system didn't provide him with enough opportunities to showcase his athleticism. He does need to work on his handles and scoring around the rim but when watching MSU they use Harris for his jump shot only. They don't make it a point to provide spacing for their guards to get to the basket. Harris will have more of an opportunity to showcase that side of his game in the NBA. He's a pretty complete player. I'd take Harris over Stauskas at this point but Nik works about as hard as anyone and wouldn't surprise me at all to see him surpass Harris in value. Stauskas will be one of the best shooters in the NBA and if he can make himself even an adequate defender, he will be an extremely valuable player in the NBA.

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Tim

It's kinda hard to compare Tim and Glenn. Tim is a guard Glenn is a forward and can't guard 2s which tim can. Plus Timmy is a knockdown shooter Glenn isn't. As long as tim doesn't have to over handle the ball he's excellent Glenn not so much

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Tim was streaky in college.

Tim was streaky in college. Stop the revisionist history.

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I think GRIII was an

I think GRIII was an incredibly underrated player for his time at Michigan. Being a Michigan fan and talking about Michigan basketball with other fans, I get the impression that most fans expected too much of GRIII. Fans saw his incredible athleticism and expect him to dominate with pure athleticism. That's not how Michigan's system works. The system is based around skilled perimeter players who can shoot, pass, and handle the basketball very well. GRIII is fairly skilled but still has a lot of work to do as a shooter, passer, and dribbler at this point. There is still a ton of room for improvement in his game. He never was asked to have the ball in his hands very often at Michigan. He's always being ripped for his passive play but it's hard to be an aggressive 3rd or 4th option on a team. His role on the team was limited. He was only able to display his athleticism as a finisher and defender at Michigan. The NBA will get a guy who understands his role on a team, has a really nice looking jump shot, will be a great finisher at the rim, and a solid defender.

I personally think he is a much better basketball player overall than Tim Hardaway Jr. Hardaway had a better jump shot at similar points in their career but not by much. Hardaway was 34% career college 3pt shooter, compared to Robinson's 31%. Robinson displays really good looking form and will continue to improve his jump shot with repetition just as Tim did. Robinson is a better and more versatile defender than Hardaway Jr in my opinion. He moves his feet well on perimeter players and does an adequate job of defending post players. Unfortunately for Robinson he was forced to play the 4 and defend players much larger than him for most of his career at Michigan. Robinson has much more upside than Hardaway Jr. as well. I think drafting a guy who is ultra talented with a lot of room for improvement yet able to accept his role on a team is a really attractive combination for NBA teams. At worst you are getting an athletic bench role player that plays within himself. If he improves his shooting and handles he could be a real steal in the draft.

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Both of them shouldve

Both of them shouldve declared. Robinson stock would definitely be lower if he returned to school.

Stauskas needs to get stronger, but he was impressive this past season and showed he can handle the ball better than previously thought.

Robinson Jr is a tweener but his jumper isnt that good and he is a below average ball handler as well. He has the quickness to be a mismatch on offense, but he can be neutralized cause he cant dribble good enough to beat slower guys that well.

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