[piratejpParticipant]

Okay, so was reading an article on espn and it was talking about who teams might trade, wanted to trade, etc.
It spoke of Sacramento possibly moving Rudy Gay in the right deal and the Lakers trying to move some guys. I ran this through the trade machine and it works (+2 wins for Kings, -7 for Lakers = everyone wins):

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Lakers receive Rudy Gay, Marco Belinelli and ? draft compensation.

Kings recieve Lou Williams, Nick Young, Brandon Bass, Meta-World Peace and Tarik Black. 
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Both teams move in the direction they want this year.
For the Lakers, Gay & Belinelli are veteran guys at spots not currently occupied by the young talent they’re trying to groom. They get another asset in a draft pick that delivers as they are (hopefully) nearing the end of the rebuild; easily tradeable too.
For Sacramento, imagine the holy hell Karl could unleash with that much depth & talent (well, compared to now anyway). It would be Denver 2.0(ish) with them trying to run people out of the gym any time Cousins isn’t punishing them inside. Former-Artest and Cousins together is a bit of a worry, but worth the risk for only the remainder of this year I believe. They have the dead-weight at the back of the bench to cut loose and make it work too.
Both teams are better balanced and the Lakers can use open roster spots on some take-a-look guys from the D-League or wherever.

The Lakers take on more long-term salary, but w/ Kobe taking his salary with him to the beach, they have wiggle room, and it’s not such a crazy amount that a couple 2nd rounders wouldn’t make it go away if need be.

Anyway, my question is, what sort of draft compensation would the Kings have to give? They can’t offer anything until I think 2020 after that moronic Philly trade – not 100% sure on that though. Would the Lakers take a 2020 1st rounder with some sort of protection?
And if so, what sort of protection? Top 7? Top 10? Top 12? Top 15 with a 2nd rounder that delivers sooner thrown in? Top 18 with two 2nd rounders? Top 20 with the same? Something else?

Feel free to weigh in, comment, propose alterations to the deal, offer a better destination for Gay…whatever. Thanks! Peace.

 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 So the Kings give up by far the best player in the trade and take back a lot of garbage from the Lakers then send the the Lakers draft picks? You should never post another trade idea again.

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 So the Kings give up by far the best player in the trade and take back a lot of garbage from the Lakers then send the the Lakers draft picks? You should never post another trade idea again.

[bmac697Participant]

Not a very fair deal for Sac, not saying Gay has a lot of trade value, but like was mentioned, he would be the best player in the draft if anything the lakers would have to send a protected future pick the kings way. But I dont see Gay and lakers being a good fit. Most likley players traded from Lakers would be Hibbert, Bass and young IMO. I hear rumors of Russel being mentioned, but unless hes getting traded for anyother young asset straight up (Okafor) or a larger package, I dont see him being moved.

[bmac697Participant]

Not a very fair deal for Sac, not saying Gay has a lot of trade value, but like was mentioned, he would be the best player in the draft if anything the lakers would have to send a protected future pick the kings way. But I dont see Gay and lakers being a good fit. Most likley players traded from Lakers would be Hibbert, Bass and young IMO. I hear rumors of Russel being mentioned, but unless hes getting traded for anyother young asset straight up (Okafor) or a larger package, I dont see him being moved.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Belinelli was one of the most sound off-season pickups on the year. Good value, in the prime of his career and gives Sac a solid shooter with some versatility. 

Sacramento is willing to trade Gay for the right pieces, but they’re not actively trying to dump him. He’s not a cancer to the team or in any way dragging them down, they’re willing to look at options but they clearly want adequate compensation coming back. Not some hodgepodge of over the hill, wildly inefficient, and middling talent.

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Belinelli was one of the most sound off-season pickups on the year. Good value, in the prime of his career and gives Sac a solid shooter with some versatility. 

Sacramento is willing to trade Gay for the right pieces, but they’re not actively trying to dump him. He’s not a cancer to the team or in any way dragging them down, they’re willing to look at options but they clearly want adequate compensation coming back. Not some hodgepodge of over the hill, wildly inefficient, and middling talent.

 

[piratejpParticipant]

Okay, cool; thanks. And I probably won’t…especially at 4:30 in the morning. lol

Not a fan of either Gay or Belinelli, so obviously that is affecting my judgment on their value. It’s why I asked. I liked the idea from the Kings standpoint of having $6 in cap room next year as a result. I also love the idea of adding Lou Williams to the backcourt mix…way better fit than Belinelli imo. And Nick Young could be shipped or stretched if they don’t care for his act. He’s got talent though – why not let Karl see what he can do with him? Even better if no draft picks need to leave town to make it happen.

Maybe if you replaced Artest with Ryan Kelly and tossed the draft picks? Whatever – I just hope the Kings trade Gay and/or Belinelli for players who will round out the roster and compliment Cousins better. They’ve ensured that there won’t be much building through the draft, so identifying the bad fits and shipping them out, while adding talent and cap flexibility seems like a good idea in general…even if I was clearly off in my original valuations re: this deal.

[piratejpParticipant]

Okay, cool; thanks. And I probably won’t…especially at 4:30 in the morning. lol

Not a fan of either Gay or Belinelli, so obviously that is affecting my judgment on their value. It’s why I asked. I liked the idea from the Kings standpoint of having $6 in cap room next year as a result. I also love the idea of adding Lou Williams to the backcourt mix…way better fit than Belinelli imo. And Nick Young could be shipped or stretched if they don’t care for his act. He’s got talent though – why not let Karl see what he can do with him? Even better if no draft picks need to leave town to make it happen.

Maybe if you replaced Artest with Ryan Kelly and tossed the draft picks? Whatever – I just hope the Kings trade Gay and/or Belinelli for players who will round out the roster and compliment Cousins better. They’ve ensured that there won’t be much building through the draft, so identifying the bad fits and shipping them out, while adding talent and cap flexibility seems like a good idea in general…even if I was clearly off in my original valuations re: this deal.

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