Most of us on here were talking about a lottery pick for Beasley, but Keyon Dooling? I wonder what the Nets are thinking because that seems like a great trade for them. What are the Heat thinking?
The Heat are trying to clear salary. Dooling's contract is similar to Dampier's in the fact it is non-guaranteed next season. I assume the Heat would've cut Dooling immediately.
It's sad that Beasley is only worth salary cap space to the Heat.
We have no idea if this is even true or not and i really dont think it is. i think its pretty obvious that beasley wont be in a HEAT uniform next year but its pretty likely hes going out on a sign and trade and it looks like that is going to be for Bosh or Boozer
Beasely is a tweener and the Heat would rather get Bosh or LeBron.
I'm not shocked the Nets rejected the offer.
Dooling and his contract are more valuable at this point, considering they don't really need Beasley. They already have Yi Janilan, who played well last season. They'll have the opportunity to draft Favors in this year's draft. IF they don't, they'll have a shot at a star free-agent power forward via free-agency. Beasley isn't worth the headache to the Nets' new owner, Thorn or whoever they higher as coach.
yeahh just trade him PLEASE..and next year he will show who is who(i hope so) !
lol the nets are crazy..beasley wud be a great fit as SF on their team
Beasley does need a change of scenery. Which team would be a great fit for him?
It would appear NJ is set on Favors and does not want any kind of competition going on there. Beasley could easily be moved after someone trades for him if they did not want to keep him. Also NJ maybe plans on having the most money for free agents so they have not point in making deals yet.
...you know what. give me a break. it's not like beasley is making so much money or has that many years left on his deal. in fact, he's one of the few guys in the leagues where you look at his contract and think, "yeah, that's about right." even if you signed two max deals, you'd still need 8-9 other guys to field a roster. plus some compensation in the almost 100% probability that at least one of the max deals would involve a sign-and-trade. neither cleveland or toronto is gonna love getting the beaz back in return but for 5 million a year on a third year guy who's talented (and unmotivated) as hell? you'd be stupid to turn that down, just like you'd be stupid not to take demarcus cousins or dez bryant if they just fell into your lap several spots after they were expected to be gone. as stated above, beaz will probably not be on the heat next year. but he's not gonna be replaced by a keyon dooling... unless there's a decent draft pick involved.
Maybe a swap of two teams players who need a change scenario?
Bayless hasnt really been given the chance but hes an explosive scorer, whose a good defender too. he makes a little over $mil, and would be an affordable starter/6th man for the Heat if they sign a couple big name free agents.
Beasley could be a nice scoring combo forward off the bench for the Blazers, Hed back up both positions well, and would be a great spark off the bench, i actually think he would be a huge spark off the bench and hes defend better coming off the bench against the second unit, and Portland is really lacking a backup power forward.
I have no idea.
this is another one sided salary dump for the unknown...Beasley will have a giant sized chip on his shoulder after reading this and finding out that is what he's worth...not a change of scenery in exchange for someone's Lottery pick...it's a salary dump and NJ says no thanks...WTF>>>>Beasley is better than Yi/Favors/Williams at the SF/PF TOADY...Jersey would have got a steal and then could have drafted Favor or Cousins anyway and run B easy at the 3...I'M SMH at this trade right here....U say I'm un realistic...This is something that would have a gotten some one DNynce'd .....
If the nets did not take this trade they are dumb. This is just another piece him or jianlin could have been good back ups. I like beasley alot in the right situation though this was not right..KEYON DOOLING>>>>> COM ON NETS THINK
Im from jerzy and sometimes this team just makes stupid moves, just like the knicks.
I like Devin Harris but not as a lead gaurd as far as lead you to a championship, I would have packed him to get that number one pick in john wall.
BUILD WITH YOUTH LIKE THE THUNDER....You need 6 options on teams now.
I hope this was a lie cause I am frustrated.
I can't see Kevin Pritchard biting on Beasley. The Blazers do need a backup power forward, but one that is the opposite of Lamarcus Aldridge. Beasley isn't a banger, defender or someone that can score with his back to the basket. That's what the Blazers need.
Beasley is more talented, but I think he'd have a hard time beating out Webster for the backup small forward spot. Only because Webster is a better perimeter shooter and a very good defender perimeter defender. He plays off of Brandon Roy and Lamarcus Aldridge better.
The Blazers aren't a good fit in my opinion.
I think Beasley would be a nice fit for the Jazz. Beasley can operate in a role similar to Boozer, even if it's in a reserve role or for less minutes. Boozer is a better defender than Beasley (not by very much though) and a better rebounder, but Beasley functions much of the same way Boozer does offensively.
Beasley i think is a good fit because they already have two great defenders in Oden, and Batum.
He gives them rebounding, and scoring off the bench, and has a pretty good jump shot, Fernandez would need to step up.
The nets aren't stupid at all, they are still trying to get rid of a little more salary so they can sign 2 top free agents. If they would have done the trade they wouldn't be able to do this and probably wouldn't have even gotten one free agent. When free agency starts they will be a very attractive team if they can sign to top free agents.
Its not that they dont think Beasley is better than Dooling its just it hurts them for free agency.
If this trade was accurate.. it wasn`t about anything more then a salary dump for Miami. Granted, its much to soon to give up on Beasley, but the reason is simple. Miami wants the cap space for 3 max contracts this offseason and Dooling provides that. This is similar to what NY did at the trade deadline.. except NY got hosed to open up that second max slot. Jeffries, Jordan Hill, the right to switch picks and a future first rounder. That was the cost of doing business I suppose. NY`s best deal was picking up Bill Walker in the Robison trade. Walker will be a keeper. Chicago did better then NY overall but their deals to clear cap space with Salmons and Thomas were still pretty bad too.
NJ obviously believes they have a shot at 2 max or near max guys this offseason so they don`t want to jeopardize their options by taking on Beasley. If you think about it... taking Beasley and his roughly 5 mil contract actually results in eliminating NJ`s ability to get an additional superstar caliber player this offseason. It means NJ would go from 2 max slots to 1 max slot with Beasley and another 8-10 million player. Theres a big difference there. Would the first Max guy even be willing to go to NJ knowing that he will not be playing with another Superstar like he could be in NY or Mia. If Mia had offered Beasley and Picks (which Mia needs to fill out its roster anyways) then maybe this has a better chance.
A small comment on Beasley regarding this past season rookie Soph. game. Beasley should have dominated that game but he was basically invisible while he was on the floor. Thats about all you need to know about that guy.
Once the superstars start falling like domino`s this offseason it will be interesting to see if this type of deal is even still on the table. If Mia strikes out there is no way they even consider this deal. Right now all these cap space teams are dreaming big, but there will be quite a few unhappy teams this offseason when all is said and done.
Oh, and all this talk about Yi... the dude is seven feet and hits only 40% of his FG`s. Id take a pass on him ASAP. Guys who shoot low % after there first few season never tend to pick it up throughout their careers. He needs to redefine himself as a player or he will be out of work quickly. Yi`s defense is average at best. He is not a banger and his rebounding is pathetic. He put up 12 points because he had opportunity to play in NJ. There are a ton of players who would be much more productive and helpful to their respective teams with similar playing time, then Yi was this season.
Nets Owner is a piece of SH*T, Beasley is one of mu favorite players, he doesn't deserve the way he has been treated, Certainly by Pat Riley, They never played him that much just because he wasn't that great on the defensive end. But the guy is a offensive machine, I mean For Real, He has the potential.
Everybody's acting like the Nets are crazy. I think that it was smart to turn down Beasley. Shows you that the Nets want a team of high-character guys (like the Jazz, Spurs, Pacers, Blazers). They don't want another Sean Williams type. This also shows you why they reportedly aren't considering DeMarcus Cousins.
Good for them.
When I first read the thread title, I didn't take all of the other implications into account, such as free agency, salary cap concerns, character issues, etc. I was like, "Wow, that's like the fat chick rejecting the jock."
A change of scenery might be a great thing for Beasley. I think he could become a 22+ point per game scorer on a team like the Nets. That's not saying much, but maybe it would boost his confidence and help him get his head on straight.
Personally I think David Kahn should jump on this. He said he is going to make noise this offseason, how about trading for Beasley if the price is currently this low. We could use a youthful scorer with some athleticism at the 3/4 and can offer picks (we have plenty) or an expiring contract from Nathan Jawai if that is what they are interested in. You look at the lineup then...and with the possibility of trading up for Turner...
PF: Love/Jefferson (pending if Big Al is gone)
Or if we stay put at 4 and keep 16 or 23
SG: (Whichever SG falls in the draft possibly Henry, Anderson, or we grab crawford ect) / Corey Brewer
PF: Love/ Big Al
C: DeMarcus Cousins
That is starting to look like a solid team we would be putting together. Doubt anything happens though.
THE dookY @$$ NETS WOULD NOT TURN DOWN THAT TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REPEAT THE dookY @$$ NETS WOULD NOT TURN DOWN THAT TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
great point on the wolves MDYMES... if all the heat is looking for is a nonguaranteed deal, the Wolves have Gomes to offer. If I'm Kahn I'll even throw in 23 with Gomes for Beasley.... why not?
Beasley to the Nets would be a disaster, they are to young and have no senior leadership. Beasley needs a strong core of veterans around him to teach him the lifestyle of the NBA and how to control himself.
I think the Net's logic is that if they take on Beasley's contract they can't sign 2 max players. Since they obviously believe they can sign 2 players they are looking at it as having LBJ/Johnson/Wade and Bosh/Boozer/Amare coming in next year, or LBJ/Johnson/Wade and Beasley...Now who would you rather have?
beasley is over rated. anytime he plays good bigs hes nowhere to be seen. But a team like the Nets who need help so bad should consider taking him... I bet bosh goes to Miami if they are trying to pull this
Beasley to Washington would be nice. Since it's his home town and he could thrive playing alongside Wa11. The only problem is they already have Blatche , but Beasley is more talented.
I think Washington would be a good fit for him even with Blatche there. I see Beasley being more effective as a scoring 3 rather than being forced onto the block as a 4. That would be a pretty solid lineup though...
There is some def. potential there.