[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Back in 2003, the New Jersey Nets sold their 51st pick to the Philadelphia 76ers for 125,000 dollars. The pick was used on Kyle Korver. The money the Nets got was then used to cover their Summer League bill and the leftover money was used on a copy machine.

This is hilarious! Kyle Korver, a league-known sniper that has had a successful, unremarkable career, was sold for bill money and a copy machine. GMs have stated that passing on Korver is their biggest regret, as well.

That last part is weird, I want to know what you guys would think is the biggest regret for GMs pick 1-51 in the 2003 draft, besides Darko. Got this off RealGM too.

[llperez]

125k for a second rounder? Inflation is a mofo, the second rounders that were sold this past draft cost a mil

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

I know right? The Lakers spent around 1.8 mil for one, I just don’t know who.

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

for 2014 – Wizards 46#pick, alias Jordan Clarkson

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

for 2014 – Wizards 46#pick, alias Jordan Clarkson

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

I know right? The Lakers spent around 1.8 mil for one, I just don’t know who.

[Kinguy11Participant]

 Inflation was my first thought as well, but it turns out that $125,000 in 2003 is only $160,000 in 2014.  My guess is that, in recent years, more emphasis is being put on depth when it comes to team building.

[Kinguy11Participant]

 Inflation was my first thought as well, but it turns out that $125,000 in 2003 is only $160,000 in 2014.  My guess is that, in recent years, more emphasis is being put on depth when it comes to team building.

[llperez]

125k for a second rounder? Inflation is a mofo, the second rounders that were sold this past draft cost a mil

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

Teams are making much more money. So it is kind of inflation of NBA teams. When you team is worth $1 billion or more, it doesn’t seem so much to spend a million to add a chance at a new good rookie. Look at the Nets. Buying the rights to the last pick which got us Cory Jefferson for something like $400,000 seems like it will be a freaking steal. 

Markel Brown and his 43 inch vertical leap have also made the Nets squad and the Nets bought that earlier second round pick for about a million. 

And now Plumlee has been asked to scrimage with the USA Team (he got promoted from USA Select yesterday). Nice job in the draft by the Nets in the last two years. 

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

Teams are making much more money. So it is kind of inflation of NBA teams. When you team is worth $1 billion or more, it doesn’t seem so much to spend a million to add a chance at a new good rookie. Look at the Nets. Buying the rights to the last pick which got us Cory Jefferson for something like $400,000 seems like it will be a freaking steal. 

Markel Brown and his 43 inch vertical leap have also made the Nets squad and the Nets bought that earlier second round pick for about a million. 

And now Plumlee has been asked to scrimage with the USA Team (he got promoted from USA Select yesterday). Nice job in the draft by the Nets in the last two years. 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 It was a draft night trade, so was it the 76ers saying who to pick?  So the 76ers should get the credit for assessing his talent, and the Nets were just trading the pick for some money and didn’t care who was picked.

Some other draft mistakes from 2003, all the shooters who went in the second round.  Bonner, Walton who could pass well and sometimes hit outside shots, Kapono, James Jones, Mo Williams, plenty of teams could have used them and had late first rounders to pick them with.

Minnesito with Ebi, that didn’t work.

Memphis made a bad trade, or just picked two bad players after making the trade.  The Grizzlies could have had David West and Leandro Barbosa.

 

 

 

  

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 It was a draft night trade, so was it the 76ers saying who to pick?  So the 76ers should get the credit for assessing his talent, and the Nets were just trading the pick for some money and didn’t care who was picked.

Some other draft mistakes from 2003, all the shooters who went in the second round.  Bonner, Walton who could pass well and sometimes hit outside shots, Kapono, James Jones, Mo Williams, plenty of teams could have used them and had late first rounders to pick them with.

Minnesito with Ebi, that didn’t work.

Memphis made a bad trade, or just picked two bad players after making the trade.  The Grizzlies could have had David West and Leandro Barbosa.

 

 

 

  

 

[Jester87Participant]

It’s not the inflation, 2011 CBA made draft picks much more appealing for many reasons, one of them being the luxury tax is super harsh right now. Also contracts are shorter, so cap space has a lot of value. Draft picks have small contracts, and also usually teams benefit of restricted free agency when their rookie deals expire. That means basically that if a draft pick manages to become just a decent contributor he’s overperforming his contract and his value in the open market (thus, that means you have to pay much more for a veteran offering the very same contribution). Even if a second round pick can hardly play and is nothing more than a 11-12th man, you still must have at least 12 players and the last 2-3 players in a rotation rarely play meaningful minutes. So instead of having a veteran journeyman, it’s better to have a guy on a rookie deal who might have some potential and even if he doesn’t pan out, he comes for cheap and you can dump him whenever you want.

Also, often in the draft, when teams have no cap space and they don’t want to sign a rookie, they might trade a first round pick for 2 or more second round picks. Or you might trade a late second rounder for a future second round pick that might turn out to be a higher selection (say a early second) and those kind of picks are as valuable as late first rounders (the quality is a little lower, but you don’t have to give a player a guaranteed and very often quality college players drop in the early second round because good teams drafting in the late first don’t need a player ready to contribute and draft an international player to stash overseas for a few years) and you can still use them as a trade chip, but a better one than a late second. So yes, the problem is not inflation, second round picks (and draft picks in general) became mor valuable. How much this will go on is hard to tell, the possibility of a new lockout or a new CBA in 2017 might change things. Also, the Huestis-affaire, with a team drafting an american college prospect after he had accepted to go play overseas for at least a season, might lower a little the value of second round picks, I mean, obviously only if this kind of agreements become a common thing. But yet, second round picks will still have the advantage of a bigger flexibility when it comes to negotiating the contract, so they could still keep good value.

[Jester87Participant]

It’s not the inflation, 2011 CBA made draft picks much more appealing for many reasons, one of them being the luxury tax is super harsh right now. Also contracts are shorter, so cap space has a lot of value. Draft picks have small contracts, and also usually teams benefit of restricted free agency when their rookie deals expire. That means basically that if a draft pick manages to become just a decent contributor he’s overperforming his contract and his value in the open market (thus, that means you have to pay much more for a veteran offering the very same contribution). Even if a second round pick can hardly play and is nothing more than a 11-12th man, you still must have at least 12 players and the last 2-3 players in a rotation rarely play meaningful minutes. So instead of having a veteran journeyman, it’s better to have a guy on a rookie deal who might have some potential and even if he doesn’t pan out, he comes for cheap and you can dump him whenever you want.

Also, often in the draft, when teams have no cap space and they don’t want to sign a rookie, they might trade a first round pick for 2 or more second round picks. Or you might trade a late second rounder for a future second round pick that might turn out to be a higher selection (say a early second) and those kind of picks are as valuable as late first rounders (the quality is a little lower, but you don’t have to give a player a guaranteed and very often quality college players drop in the early second round because good teams drafting in the late first don’t need a player ready to contribute and draft an international player to stash overseas for a few years) and you can still use them as a trade chip, but a better one than a late second. So yes, the problem is not inflation, second round picks (and draft picks in general) became mor valuable. How much this will go on is hard to tell, the possibility of a new lockout or a new CBA in 2017 might change things. Also, the Huestis-affaire, with a team drafting an american college prospect after he had accepted to go play overseas for at least a season, might lower a little the value of second round picks, I mean, obviously only if this kind of agreements become a common thing. But yet, second round picks will still have the advantage of a bigger flexibility when it comes to negotiating the contract, so they could still keep good value.

[JoeWolf1]

 Really good article by Zach Lowe of Grantland. You guys should check it out if you already haven’t.

[JoeWolf1]

 Really good article by Zach Lowe of Grantland. You guys should check it out if you already haven’t.

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