[jabbar_medvedenkoParticipant]

Clippers send 2016 first rounder (high twenties, weak draft), Stephenson’s contract (team option for next year) and maybe a young player like Dawson or Wilcox. 

Nets send Thad Young (12mil./yr through 2019, last year PO) to the Clippers.

Nets clear their books by sending an in-prime player to a contender, get some assets and (finally) start rebuilding properly. Clippers get a great rotational piece that’s gonna help solve their (frontcourt) depth issues and rid themselves of another locker room headache, seems like a win-win situation.

These teams have already traded players between them, so I wondered what do you think? Can the Nets land a better return for their starter? Do the Clips give up too much?

 

 

[zolaParticipant]

 Celtics would love this trade

[zolaParticipant]

 Celtics would love this trade

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 As has been debated and documented on this forum and elsewhere, the Celtics have already won from their trade with the Nets in the biggest way possible, so the point about whether the Celtics would like this trade is moot. The trade proposed by the OP frankly is the maximum type deal that the Nets can get, since we all know that the biggest free agents aint going to Brooklyn for the next few years. They ideally have to cut costs throughout the rest of the roster and add good, young rookie talent (doable) while trying to lure only the highest tier free agents (not likely at all). They will likely suck until after 2020 unfortunately…

[jabbar_medvedenkoParticipant]

 I think a solid roster can be built if you clean your books, draft well and scout the market early, going after up-and-coming players while the others are hunting for stars, something like the Blazers did last year with Plumlee, Aminu and Davis. Not flashy moves at all, but a cost-effective way of speeding up the rebuilding process.

Start from the bottom, squeeze a pick or two from Lopez and Young, then bring in promising players flying under the radar and really get it going. Not gonna win a ‘ship anytime soon but you can at least establish an identity with a new coach, build good defense and you might just surprise the basketball world, maybe attract a bigger fish the next summer.

Who would’ve thought that the Knicks would get back to respectability so early after being a laughing stock last year, or the Bucks the year before? Even the Celtics without any clear cut superstars are so far ahead of their expected rebuilding schedule thanks to great defense and a good coach. Heck, we’ve even seen Philly’s defense last year being one of the better in the league until Hinkie traded away KJ and MCW.

They have several young players worth developing on cheap contracts (RHJ, McCullough, Bogdanović, Larkin) and if they can surround them with a first rounder or two this year and a couple of nice free agent additions on favorable contracts (Leuer, L. Thomas, Bazemore?) it would really help them. If you achieve something next year, great, if not, bottom out and accumulate picks again, it’s not like you have any other hope, not until 2020 anyway.

 

 

[jabbar_medvedenkoParticipant]

 I think a solid roster can be built if you clean your books, draft well and scout the market early, going after up-and-coming players while the others are hunting for stars, something like the Blazers did last year with Plumlee, Aminu and Davis. Not flashy moves at all, but a cost-effective way of speeding up the rebuilding process.

Start from the bottom, squeeze a pick or two from Lopez and Young, then bring in promising players flying under the radar and really get it going. Not gonna win a ‘ship anytime soon but you can at least establish an identity with a new coach, build good defense and you might just surprise the basketball world, maybe attract a bigger fish the next summer.

Who would’ve thought that the Knicks would get back to respectability so early after being a laughing stock last year, or the Bucks the year before? Even the Celtics without any clear cut superstars are so far ahead of their expected rebuilding schedule thanks to great defense and a good coach. Heck, we’ve even seen Philly’s defense last year being one of the better in the league until Hinkie traded away KJ and MCW.

They have several young players worth developing on cheap contracts (RHJ, McCullough, Bogdanović, Larkin) and if they can surround them with a first rounder or two this year and a couple of nice free agent additions on favorable contracts (Leuer, L. Thomas, Bazemore?) it would really help them. If you achieve something next year, great, if not, bottom out and accumulate picks again, it’s not like you have any other hope, not until 2020 anyway.

 

 

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 As has been debated and documented on this forum and elsewhere, the Celtics have already won from their trade with the Nets in the biggest way possible, so the point about whether the Celtics would like this trade is moot. The trade proposed by the OP frankly is the maximum type deal that the Nets can get, since we all know that the biggest free agents aint going to Brooklyn for the next few years. They ideally have to cut costs throughout the rest of the roster and add good, young rookie talent (doable) while trying to lure only the highest tier free agents (not likely at all). They will likely suck until after 2020 unfortunately…

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 I see you are named for two of the Lakers most famous centers.

An ending contract and a first round pick are certainly what the Nets need.  Clippers are getting a good deal.  Maybe Nets can get a second rounder, or look at other teams with better picks for a similar trade.  Maybe Detroit or Washington or a team like that, with the idea of making the playoffs, would be able to make a similar trade but the Nets would get a better pick.  Although if Thad plays well, it will mean more wins for his new team which pushes the pick back.

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 I see you are named for two of the Lakers most famous centers.

An ending contract and a first round pick are certainly what the Nets need.  Clippers are getting a good deal.  Maybe Nets can get a second rounder, or look at other teams with better picks for a similar trade.  Maybe Detroit or Washington or a team like that, with the idea of making the playoffs, would be able to make a similar trade but the Nets would get a better pick.  Although if Thad plays well, it will mean more wins for his new team which pushes the pick back.

 

[jabbar_medvedenkoParticipant]

Yeah, two purple-and-gold legends. 🙂 

I don’t think Wizards or Pistons would sacrifice their future flexibility for an average NBA starter. Clippers, on the other hand, have no cap space anyway, (or at least not enough to bring in a player of Thad’s quality) and trading for him gives them a reliable player ready to step in immediately and fight in the playoffs AND give them a higher mid-level exception (over-the-cap teams have full MLE, whereas teams with space only get the room exception, around half of full MLE) this summer with which they can get a good wing player (Deng?). 

[jabbar_medvedenkoParticipant]

Yeah, two purple-and-gold legends. 🙂 

I don’t think Wizards or Pistons would sacrifice their future flexibility for an average NBA starter. Clippers, on the other hand, have no cap space anyway, (or at least not enough to bring in a player of Thad’s quality) and trading for him gives them a reliable player ready to step in immediately and fight in the playoffs AND give them a higher mid-level exception (over-the-cap teams have full MLE, whereas teams with space only get the room exception, around half of full MLE) this summer with which they can get a good wing player (Deng?). 

[publius2481Participant]

 This would be a good trade, except the Clippers cannot trade this year’s first round pick because they already traded next year’s first round pick to Toronto. 

[capecodderParticipant]

 Not only that but they traded last year’s to the Celtics for Doc Rivers (or was that 2014)

[capecodderParticipant]

 Not only that but they traded last year’s to the Celtics for Doc Rivers (or was that 2014)

[publius2481Participant]

 This would be a good trade, except the Clippers cannot trade this year’s first round pick because they already traded next year’s first round pick to Toronto. 

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