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- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:21am #54887
M-EazyParticipantWhat are people expecting out of Noel in his "rookie season"? I honestly don’t know what to expect, but I do know a core of MCW-Wiggins/Parker-Noel could be a craaazy core in the future.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:32am #889695
HobbyOGParticipantI would say an 8/8 guy and maybe 1.5 blocks a game. For his rookie season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:32am #889804
HobbyOGParticipantI would say an 8/8 guy and maybe 1.5 blocks a game. For his rookie season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:42am #889699
Ebown5ParticipantI think that it will really depend on how many minutes he can play due to foul trouble. If he is able to play 30 minutes a night I would expect him to put up good rebounding and block numbers as a rookie. 10 boards and 2.5 blocks is reasonable.
Offensively I just don’t know what to expect at this point.
0- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:54am #889707
220ParticipantNerlens Noel will have a lot of opportunities to play next year so I agree that he could average 10 rpg and 2+bpg. It will be interesting to see if all the work the Sixers staff put into rebuilding Noel’s jumpshot will pay off. Noel should easily average just 8-10 ppg just off of hustle so if he can hit some open jumpers he could be a difference maker quicker than expected. One thing that could also effect Noel’s season is who the 76ers end up with in the draft. If they end up taking two big men in the lottery then Noel’s impact could become more limited.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:54am #889816
220ParticipantNerlens Noel will have a lot of opportunities to play next year so I agree that he could average 10 rpg and 2+bpg. It will be interesting to see if all the work the Sixers staff put into rebuilding Noel’s jumpshot will pay off. Noel should easily average just 8-10 ppg just off of hustle so if he can hit some open jumpers he could be a difference maker quicker than expected. One thing that could also effect Noel’s season is who the 76ers end up with in the draft. If they end up taking two big men in the lottery then Noel’s impact could become more limited.
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:42am #889808
Ebown5ParticipantI think that it will really depend on how many minutes he can play due to foul trouble. If he is able to play 30 minutes a night I would expect him to put up good rebounding and block numbers as a rookie. 10 boards and 2.5 blocks is reasonable.
Offensively I just don’t know what to expect at this point.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:50am #889703
TyroberParticipantBig men take some time to grow, but a 7pts, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks would be a fine rookie year. He’s going to get in some foul trouble and he’ll get pushed around by bigger players, but I think he’ll be a beast in a few years. Offensively he’ll get some put backs and alleyoops, but he is obviously quite raw on that side of the ball so I don’t expect too much. I’m really excited about the future in Philly.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 11:50am #889812
TyroberParticipantBig men take some time to grow, but a 7pts, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks would be a fine rookie year. He’s going to get in some foul trouble and he’ll get pushed around by bigger players, but I think he’ll be a beast in a few years. Offensively he’ll get some put backs and alleyoops, but he is obviously quite raw on that side of the ball so I don’t expect too much. I’m really excited about the future in Philly.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:05pm #889711
OhCanada-ParticipantIf healthy and without a lack of explosiveness or athletisism which he relies on for his game drastically I think he makes a Larry Sanders type impact immediatly. Difference is he is a less emotional person which will allow him to make better decisions going forward and be more coachable.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:05pm #889820
OhCanada-ParticipantIf healthy and without a lack of explosiveness or athletisism which he relies on for his game drastically I think he makes a Larry Sanders type impact immediatly. Difference is he is a less emotional person which will allow him to make better decisions going forward and be more coachable.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:35pm #889721
imAboutDatActionParticipantBrett Brown has spent the whole year reparing his shot. i’d love to see Nerlens flash some potential to stretch the floor and hit his free throws.
i have no doubt in my mind he will make a great defensive impact. he has all the tools and at UK he had a very high steals and block rate.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:35pm #889830
imAboutDatActionParticipantBrett Brown has spent the whole year reparing his shot. i’d love to see Nerlens flash some potential to stretch the floor and hit his free throws.
i have no doubt in my mind he will make a great defensive impact. he has all the tools and at UK he had a very high steals and block rate.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:46pm #889725
HomerKangParticipantWith a little work, I seriously think he has a chance to be our next Theo Ratliff – not too much of an O-game, but a great rebounder and overall defensive player, even in his rookie year. Eventually, I see him surpassing even Theo as a player, especially if his jumpshot develops. And you’re absolutely right: a core of MCW, Wiggins (or Parker), and Noel would be crazy. And if we’re careful in picking our second 1st round player with the Pelicans pick, someone like Hood, or Stauskas, or Harris, or TJ Warren, then that would be absolutely insane.
0- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:24pm #889733
MopgrassParticipantI like Wiggins better, but I like Parker for the 76ers. I think he’ll score more from day 1 and that’ll make a big difference. I think relying too much on Wiggins right away is a problem for him, but Parker is ready for that weight.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:24pm #889842
MopgrassParticipantI like Wiggins better, but I like Parker for the 76ers. I think he’ll score more from day 1 and that’ll make a big difference. I think relying too much on Wiggins right away is a problem for him, but Parker is ready for that weight.
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:46pm #889834
HomerKangParticipantWith a little work, I seriously think he has a chance to be our next Theo Ratliff – not too much of an O-game, but a great rebounder and overall defensive player, even in his rookie year. Eventually, I see him surpassing even Theo as a player, especially if his jumpshot develops. And you’re absolutely right: a core of MCW, Wiggins (or Parker), and Noel would be crazy. And if we’re careful in picking our second 1st round player with the Pelicans pick, someone like Hood, or Stauskas, or Harris, or TJ Warren, then that would be absolutely insane.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:51pm #889727
burgessfourParticipantwith active hustle………..8 & 8 seems about right. Really looking forward to seeing his contribution on D.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 12:51pm #889836
burgessfourParticipantwith active hustle………..8 & 8 seems about right. Really looking forward to seeing his contribution on D.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:10pm #889731
BallinAIstyleParticipantNerlens is going to be a starter for sure but still part of a rotation most likely. I expect him to get somewhere between 25-30 minutes. Defensively he was there coming out of highschool..this guys length and athleticism should parlay him into a double digit rebounder and top 5 shot blocker right out the gate in my opinion. Offensively I am with everyone else..somewhere between 6-9 points. Although with the way nerlens can run and how quick Brown likes to get up court..on top of some easy put backs he could easily be 10-11ppg without a doubt.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:10pm #889840
BallinAIstyleParticipantNerlens is going to be a starter for sure but still part of a rotation most likely. I expect him to get somewhere between 25-30 minutes. Defensively he was there coming out of highschool..this guys length and athleticism should parlay him into a double digit rebounder and top 5 shot blocker right out the gate in my opinion. Offensively I am with everyone else..somewhere between 6-9 points. Although with the way nerlens can run and how quick Brown likes to get up court..on top of some easy put backs he could easily be 10-11ppg without a doubt.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:41pm #889739
HitsterParticipantIf Noel does come back sound as we all hope and has been working on his jump shot then his offence could be better than we expect and as mentioned above he’ll get some easy put backs and dunks. I’ll be interested to see how Philly use him next year – with Thad Young set at PF, he may have to play more at C competing with Henry Simms for good minutes.
I’d guess at this moment Philly would perhaps look to draft either Parker or Wiggins but if they got a shot at Embiid then they could slide Thad to SF if needed to fill the gap there.
I think that Noel and whoever they draft high this summer will see plenty of minutes next year as Sam Hinkie looks as if he will rebuild via the draft and Brett Brown seems prepared to let them learn on court. So even if they only win 25 to 30 games next season, the team can gel together and they have MCW, Noel, Young and a top 3 to 5 pick this year as the core and can add maybe the missing piece in the 2015 draft.
Don’t forget how few games the Thunder won in KD’s first two years, so teams can rebuild and gel whilst having heavy losing seasons.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 1:41pm #889848
HitsterParticipantIf Noel does come back sound as we all hope and has been working on his jump shot then his offence could be better than we expect and as mentioned above he’ll get some easy put backs and dunks. I’ll be interested to see how Philly use him next year – with Thad Young set at PF, he may have to play more at C competing with Henry Simms for good minutes.
I’d guess at this moment Philly would perhaps look to draft either Parker or Wiggins but if they got a shot at Embiid then they could slide Thad to SF if needed to fill the gap there.
I think that Noel and whoever they draft high this summer will see plenty of minutes next year as Sam Hinkie looks as if he will rebuild via the draft and Brett Brown seems prepared to let them learn on court. So even if they only win 25 to 30 games next season, the team can gel together and they have MCW, Noel, Young and a top 3 to 5 pick this year as the core and can add maybe the missing piece in the 2015 draft.
Don’t forget how few games the Thunder won in KD’s first two years, so teams can rebuild and gel whilst having heavy losing seasons.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 2:26pm #889745
HaleParticipantProbably about the same as DeAndre Jordan in his first two seasons as a starter. Mid-high 20’s for minutes, 7-8 ppg, 7-8 rpg, 1.5-2 bpg while being a net negative on the court.
0- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 2:57pm #889862
hbomb3300ParticipantI’m still amazed Jordan lasted till the 2nd round with is size, strength, and athleticism… he must of been a huge douche in team interviews lol.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 2:57pm #889753
hbomb3300ParticipantI’m still amazed Jordan lasted till the 2nd round with is size, strength, and athleticism… he must of been a huge douche in team interviews lol.
0- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 3:18pm #889866
HaleParticipantYeah I was HUGE fan of him coming out. It doesn’t justify the fall but the work ethic questions were legit at that point.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 3:18pm #889757
HaleParticipantYeah I was HUGE fan of him coming out. It doesn’t justify the fall but the work ethic questions were legit at that point.
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 2:26pm #889854
HaleParticipantProbably about the same as DeAndre Jordan in his first two seasons as a starter. Mid-high 20’s for minutes, 7-8 ppg, 7-8 rpg, 1.5-2 bpg while being a net negative on the court.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 3:15pm #889864
ballislyfe25ParticipantIn the pictures I’ve seen of Noel he looks straight up jacked haha. I want to see 10/10/2 bpg from him next year. He could get that based on just his raw athleticism; finishing pick and rolls, offensive boards, etc. Can’t wait to see him ball.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 3:15pm #889755
ballislyfe25ParticipantIn the pictures I’ve seen of Noel he looks straight up jacked haha. I want to see 10/10/2 bpg from him next year. He could get that based on just his raw athleticism; finishing pick and rolls, offensive boards, etc. Can’t wait to see him ball.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 5:39pm #889898
MrManalo43ParticipantI still hope he can one day have the same impact as ibaka.
Phenomenal weak-side defender and can (som day in the future) make the open jumpshot
this coming season, 8/8 is not a bad rookie season for him, but he’s definitely gonna get more blocks that 1.5, 2+ would be the expected for me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 5:39pm #889789
MrManalo43ParticipantI still hope he can one day have the same impact as ibaka.
Phenomenal weak-side defender and can (som day in the future) make the open jumpshot
this coming season, 8/8 is not a bad rookie season for him, but he’s definitely gonna get more blocks that 1.5, 2+ would be the expected for me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 6:01pm #889904
Land of GrantParticipant2 blocks is legitimately tough for a rookie. AD had 1.8 as a rook. Players in the NBA are much smarter about floaters, fakes, interior passes, and mid-air shifts. He’ll reach it in his "second year", probably.
8 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.5 bpg should be the expectation.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 6:01pm #889795
Land of GrantParticipant2 blocks is legitimately tough for a rookie. AD had 1.8 as a rook. Players in the NBA are much smarter about floaters, fakes, interior passes, and mid-air shifts. He’ll reach it in his "second year", probably.
8 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.5 bpg should be the expectation.
0- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 6:41pm #889940
imAboutDatActionParticipantyup.
even with players playing/being smarter, the Rookie has to adjust to the speed of the game. they need to adjust their timing due to players being quicker than ever.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 6:41pm #889831
imAboutDatActionParticipantyup.
even with players playing/being smarter, the Rookie has to adjust to the speed of the game. they need to adjust their timing due to players being quicker than ever.
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 7:03pm #889946
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantIf we end up with Parker/Wiggins and a Shooter like Lavine/Young on the wing, Noel’s rebounding could be better by default as they’ll be a lot of missed outside shots by young players including MCW and TWroten
If we end up with Embiid or Randle and become an interior team then Noel could be operating in a crowd paint sharing rebounds with another bigman, same thing could happen if the Team brings in a Free Agent like Greg Monroe, Noel would be fighting for space and his numbers would take a hit…
I can see 7.5ppg/7.5rpg/2.5apg/1.5bpg/1.5spg on 45% FG percentage with 65% FT percentage, he’ll probally play about 24-28 minutes per game and sit out at least 10 games due to minor injuries and rest
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 7:03pm #889837
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantIf we end up with Parker/Wiggins and a Shooter like Lavine/Young on the wing, Noel’s rebounding could be better by default as they’ll be a lot of missed outside shots by young players including MCW and TWroten
If we end up with Embiid or Randle and become an interior team then Noel could be operating in a crowd paint sharing rebounds with another bigman, same thing could happen if the Team brings in a Free Agent like Greg Monroe, Noel would be fighting for space and his numbers would take a hit…
I can see 7.5ppg/7.5rpg/2.5apg/1.5bpg/1.5spg on 45% FG percentage with 65% FT percentage, he’ll probally play about 24-28 minutes per game and sit out at least 10 games due to minor injuries and rest
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 7:59pm #889954
R.JLewisParticipantit might take a while to get up to the NBA game speed without giving away to many fouls, but when hes settled i could seem him going 8 and 9.5 with 1.5-1.8 bpg
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 7:59pm #889845
R.JLewisParticipantit might take a while to get up to the NBA game speed without giving away to many fouls, but when hes settled i could seem him going 8 and 9.5 with 1.5-1.8 bpg
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 9:57pm #889869
chaParticipantIs it me or does the media make knee injuries more than what it is? They say it’s career threatening. They say it’s hard to recover from. They say that more than likely an athlete who suffered from such will never be back. Perhaps there is some truth to that but from what I see there seems to be some exceptions: Westbrook and Iman. You can even argue Rose from the start of the season he was still quick and explosive but he just got injured again. I believe in Noel’s ability to perserve and his work ethic so I think he’ll be back 100% and have a good year perhaps 10 10 and 2 blocks if he gets enough minutes which judging by the Sixers’ current roster; he will. I know he’s been working extra hard all year long; that head coach of theirs is a piece of work; I saw him working with Nerlens on his jumpshoot which, for me, is a rare sight for a head coach so kudos to him and the Sixers.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/15/2014 - 9:57pm #889978
chaParticipantIs it me or does the media make knee injuries more than what it is? They say it’s career threatening. They say it’s hard to recover from. They say that more than likely an athlete who suffered from such will never be back. Perhaps there is some truth to that but from what I see there seems to be some exceptions: Westbrook and Iman. You can even argue Rose from the start of the season he was still quick and explosive but he just got injured again. I believe in Noel’s ability to perserve and his work ethic so I think he’ll be back 100% and have a good year perhaps 10 10 and 2 blocks if he gets enough minutes which judging by the Sixers’ current roster; he will. I know he’s been working extra hard all year long; that head coach of theirs is a piece of work; I saw him working with Nerlens on his jumpshoot which, for me, is a rare sight for a head coach so kudos to him and the Sixers.
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