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  • #24689
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    JBrace19
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    So what do you guys like to watch more, college basketball or the NBA? Personally i like watching college basketball more because it is always more intense! The intensity level never leaves a college basketball game even if a team is up by 30 with a minute left. And if the intensity level leaves before the buzzer the coach is all over that player. They never stop playing unlike the NBA. I feel like the NBA players dont even have to listen to their coaches and can do whatever they want. The pros play to get payed and collegaite players play because they love the game. It just seems like college players have more to play for!

     

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  • #473005
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    Skyscraper
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    No offense but your opinion is trash.

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  • #473006
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    Skyscraper
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    NBA all day

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  • #473007
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    JBrace19
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    I respect that.

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  • #473011
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    Skyscraper
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    How do you figure college players have more to play for. I’d say like a hundred players max have a legitamite shot at making the League, what are the rest playing for? Not the security and well-being of their family like NBA players. Also, in my opinion games aren’t more passionate just cause fans like Blue Devil fans never shut the f up. Plus why is it so fun watching a much lower level of talent, college players compared to NBA players, just shoot threes and drive. You can’t honestly tell me that players don’t listen to their coaches for the most part. Sure some players aren’t gonna respond well to a brand new coach in his first head coaching job but not listening to P Jackson, J Sloan, G Popovich, R Adelman, D Rivers doesn’t happen. Plus nobody will even think twice about a situation, in which the 7th man on a mid major squad talks back to a coach and gets suspended. But if that happens in the NBA you’ll hear about it because it matters more.

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  • #473014
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    Skyscraper
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    This has really nothing to do with the topic but this also got me thinking about the fact  that everybody thinks NBA players are just thugs. Those people are wrong. People just love  to pick on the players. In the MLB, people CAN SET THEIR SLAVES ON FIRE, Ugeth Urbina,  and it doesn’t give the sport a bad reputation. What kind of double standard is that. In my opinion their are more violations of the law coming out of the NFL than the NBA but the NBA players are all "thugs". Gilbert brings guns to a lockeroom, which was a stupid thing to do, but doesn’t harm anybody. Ray Lewis is involved in a murder case. I bet 9 out of 10 people will say Ray Lewis is a far better person. I’m not saying Ray did anything but he’s involved in a murder case and nobody ever thinks about it. Gilbert does something stupid and it defines his career. I thinks it’s a joke.

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  • #473016
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    Malik-Universal
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    not every nba player does this, but a lot of them take the game for granted, not trying there hardest, whining,etc…

    thats just the truth

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  • #473018
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    bdoody42
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    For me it comes down to 1 thing. The NBA has the best players on earth. I would rather watch the best in the world play then any other players.

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  • #473020
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    hoopscop
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    You are fundamentally wrong. It is like night and day. You have to know how to play hard, trying is not enough. That is why all the college kids are way over their head when they experience initially NBA level intensity and athletic prowess. It is the same for the euros. Guys like Pekovic or Splitter were dominating, now they are dominated. I like to watch college and high school to know firsthand who is the next thing. But as for quality do not start a senseless discussion

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  • #473021
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    Mr. 19134
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     No JBryce is right and this is why the NBA will probably be headed towards a lockout because NBA players ARE NOT PLAYING FOR THEIR FAMILY SECURITY BECAUSE THEIR CONTRACT IS GUARANTEED.  Eddy Curry don’t even have to practice and he is going to make over 10 mil this year and that is ridiculous.  And their are so many times when NBA players take off plays or just complete games that never happens in college.  

    Plus another thing about the NBA is unless you’re a Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Magic, Spurs, or Mavs fan your team has virtually no shot at winning anything this year and that is SOOO WAAAAAAAAAAACK.  

    Skyscraper who is your favorite NBA team?  If it isn’t one of the names mentioned how does that not tick you off that the NBA is so lopsided it’s not even fun.

    I’m a Sixers fan and I would rather see them lose every game the rest of the year to get a shot at Jared Sullinger then make the playoffs as a 7th seed and get swept in the fist round.

    OVER HALF THE TEAMS IN THE NBA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THAT IS SO CORNY.  MORE TEAMS MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THEN MISS THE PLAYOFFS EVEN THO ONLY LIKE 5 OF THEM TEAMS EVEN HAVE A PRAYER AT WINNING IT ALL.

    College Basketball is without a doubt more competitive.  The NCAA Tourney is hands down way more fun then the NBA playoffs.  At the end of the NBA playoffs it will be like the Heat and Spurs in the championship and it’s like who is that surprising.  Atleast in the NCAA a team can get hot and have a shot at winning it all. 

    And their are more then 100 people in the NCAA playing for their future you think players who aren’t on OUR RADAR but who are good don’t think they have a shot at playing Pro Ball somewhere after college.  We might not think they do but THEY do.  

    And this is coming from somebody who HATES THE NCAA because of their rules and sanctions especially the whole Kanter ordeal made me wish the NCAA just jumped off a cliff.  That ruling was cruel and unfair as this kid wasted 2 years of crucial development with a pipe dream of playing college ball and you got guys like Jennings and Tyler who I commend for saying EFF the NCAA and going overseas. 

    But I’m a huge NBA fan and always stand by my favorite League and sport but looking at it objectively their is no doubt their is more passion in college games.  

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  • #473028
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    DowJonezBFG
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    I weighed the pros and cons of NCAA vs NBA basketball and i came up with this, i like college basketball BUT I ONLY LOVE IT IN THE MARCH. In the march its win or go home and its inspiring to see smaller schools upset the powerhouses, its sort of like they will the team to victory, they play and slug it out from the tip until the buzzer rings. Regular season in college ball is so damn predictable though, the talent is so unbalanced unlike the NBA where a team like the Grizzlies can come in and compete against the champs, the lakers, and beat them twice for example. The NBA has the best talent in the world, they play a more exciting game in which they don’t need a whole 35 seconds to get the ball in to a rim unlike the NCAA system. The game is more exciting to watch when it comes to highlights and it is a lot more cerebral in my opinion. Besides, in the league you arent just representing a school, you’re representing a whole city. You can BS in college and get suspended and get your degree, you BS in the league, your pay is cut, you’re reputation is on the line and when you mess up a whole city can turn on u, your whole way of living can change, just look at Antoine Walker, a former All-star is now competing in the developmental league

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  • #473033
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "“The intensity level never leaves a college basketball game even if a team is up by 30 with a minute left. And if the intensity level leaves before the buzzer the coach is all over that player. They never stop playing unlike the NBA. I feel like the NBA players dont even have to listen to their coaches and can do whatever they want. The pros play to get payed and collegaite players play because they love the game. It just seems like college players have more to play for!”

    That is a huge myth. More college games than not are garbage because the talent disparity among teams is so great. Players go through the motions in those games all the time. Not that I would recommend doing so, but if you check out some Auburn, Oregon, DePaul, Iowa, and Oklahoma games you will see a ton of garbage effort to go with bad ball. Also, far too many teams resort to holding the ball for 30 seconds and looking to the coach for a play because they aren’t good enough to play straight up. Nothing is worse than passing the ball around the perimeter with no attempt to attack for 30 seconds and taking a bad shot. Not only is it bad but is basically unwatchale. In far too many instances, the games lack flow and go for huge stretches without a made shot (and not because of good defense). Too many teams have guys on the floor who I should not say can’t but effectively are not threats with the ball. It is a huge indictment of college basketball that Duke could win a title when Lance Thomas, Miles Plumlee, and Brian Zoubek were completely incapable of doing anything on their own. If an NBA team has three non-threats, they lose every time. Can one of the Canadian confirm this from their eye burning watching of the Raptors when they were playing Amir Johnson and Joey Dorsey 40 minutes each? And if you think college players listen to their coaches more, you weren’t watching Kentucky last year.

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  • #473036
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    Mr. 19134
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     I am an NBA fan first and foremost but let’s be realistic college has a way more of a even playing field.  Any team can beat another team on any given night.

    Their is never any parody in the NBA and that is what makes it the worse of the major sports.  Don’t get me wrong it is still my favorite sport but let’s be honest here.  Some don’t ever have a shot at being good.  The good teams in the NBA are TOO GOOD almost and it makes watching the rest of the season not as fun I lose track of what they are even playing for.  

    Before the season Vegas had odds are a Lakers-Heat finals like the NBA is the only sport where you could even pencil in teams like that to be in the Finals so what is the rest of the season worth.  The NBA is just way too lopsided and something needs to be done to even the playing field.

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  • #473037
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    DowJonezBFG
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    this is a good topic, its interesting to see what everyone feels about the different levels of basketball

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  • #473039
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "I am an NBA fan first and foremost but let’s be realistic college has a way more of a even playing field. Any team can beat another team on any given night."

    Are you unaware of the concept of the guarantee game that is a widespread problem in college sports? That doesn’t even get into the disparity within the conferences. I rip the awful teams of the NBA for losing three out of four games, but teams like Auburn, Oregon, DePaul, and Iowa are going to be lucky to win two games in their conferences.

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  • #473042
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    Mr. 19134
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    No your pay can’t get cut in the NBA and that is what is so corny is that contracts are guaranteed leaving teams with salary cap problems for overpaid players.  The Sixers have one of the highest payrolls in the league because Ed Snyder isn’t a cheap chairman but as a Sixers fan I realize they virtually have no shot at getting out of the first round of the playoffs.  Not only that we won’t have any money to sign players and we won’t have a great draft pick meaning we have virtually no options availible to use to improve our team in the offseason and that’s wat I hate about the NBA.  

    But like the rest of us I watch and love every minute of IT!

    ANd whoever said that up top about the NBA and it’s image of thugs is completely right I hate that.  Like I love how an NBA players get’s caught wit like some weed or something and he;s a bad person but do they know how many NFL players are on steroids???? It’s insane.  And even more NFL players who have gotten caught with weed then NBA players.  Then you got MLB players cutting people up with Machete’s in their home country but that’s America’s pastime so let’s sweep that under the rug.

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  • #473043
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    JNixon
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    I definitely like watching college basketball more than NBA. I think the defensive intensity is greater. I also think the floor spacing is much worse, so it also makes it harder to score. NBA games it’s clear that players don’t play every game at top intensity or sometimes anywhere near it. In college you rarely find a team worth watching that doesn’t play with intensity every time they take the floor.

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  • #473044
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    JBrace19
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    I just think the college game is more fun because anyone can beat anyone! Tennessee was hot hot hot until Oakland came and totally dropped their mojo! i know that can happen in the NBA but it happens in college every week and just getting to see the underdogs faces light up after they beat a Kentucky or a Tennessee is worth watching more than the Lakers beating the T’Wolves by 30 and Kobe with just a little smirk on his face. thats all im saying. and yes they have more to play for because they love the game and pros love money. Thats why there is probably gonna be a lock out.

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  • #473047
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    Im Your Father
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    Duke Basketball is my favorite team in any sport, so personally I enjoy watching them and following them more than any NBA team. I think that it is more exciting and fun to be a huge fan of an NCAA team and follow their player development, recruiting, etc. But I understand how people who are not invested in how a certain team does don’t particularly like it. It is possible(although quite improbable) that Duke will finish the regular season undefeated, that simply doesn’t happen in the NBA. 

    The NBA has far more parity and the NCAA. Even a garbage team is full of good basketball players, where as a bad college team is full of very mediocre players. The Toronto Raptors have a chance to beat the Spurs, Lakers, Heat, etc, it would be suprising if they beat one of those teams, but not a huge deal. If Illinois-Chicago beats Duke, it is earth-shattering. I am not really a fan of one particular NBA team, more of individual players, but I enjoy watching the best players in the world. 

    I sort of rambled here, but I guess my point is that if you love an NCAA basketball team, there is no better sport to watch. But NBA talent is so good that even if you aren’t a fan of a particular team it can still be highly enjoyable. 

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  • #473050
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    bdoody42
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    Of course more upsets happen when you have about 350 teams playing insteand of the 30 the NBA.

    Id rather watch the cream of the crop instead of for the most part avearge players.

    Upsets also happen in the NBA ask Dallas the year they were the 1 seed in the West and lost to Golden State.

    When GS was playing at home that atmosphere was as crazy as just about any college game.

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  • #473051
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "I definitely like watching college basketball more than NBA. I think the defensive intensity is greater. I also think the floor spacing is much worse, so it also makes it harder to score. NBA games it’s clear that players don’t play every game at top intensity or sometimes anywhere near it. In college you rarely find a team worth watching that doesn’t play with intensity every time they take the floor."

    The appearance of defensive intensity is more due to the lack of players who are offensively capable. When you see the elite programs like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc it isn’t nearly as impressive defensively. NBA caliber guys can still get where they want and create, it is everyone else who has the problems.

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  • #473052
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    Mr. 19134
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     BTPH:  them teams have a better shot at winning a conference game then the Wizards have at beating the Heat if the Heat actually bring it.  The only reason the Heat wouldn’t beat the Wiz is because the Heat took the game off let’s be honest.  

    And moreover atleast a team like Oregon can have a great recruiting class and be good next year or in 2.  The Wizards have no shot at winning anything anytime soon.  They better hope they can get a stud player in the draft because besides Wall their future is bleak with no money to sign anybody.

    It’s all about MONEY in the NBA.  Look at Joe Johnson he knows dam well he ain’t worth the contract he signed.  Sure he’s paid but look at the Hawks they just paid more for Johnson then the Heat paid for Wade, James or Bosh and the Hawks have no shot at winning a title.  ZERO.  You don’t think that is both corny and absurd? 

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  • #473054
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    Mr. 19134
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     I agree with everybody saying that they would rather watch the NBA then college because the NBA has the greatest players in the world.  I just hate how the playing field in the NBA is so lopsided.  Like what have 4 different teams won the championship in over the last decade that is so corny and must be fixed.

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  • #473058
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    bdoody42
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    When a team is in financial troubles it is the faults of the GM’s who offer these players the money. Should Joe Johnson say no I dont want 6 year 120 million? He would be dumb. These GMs at points throw money around like it is nothing and then all of a sudden the team is in such bad shape they need 6-8 years to become revelant again.

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  • #473061
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    Im Your Father
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    @Jbrace,

    I just don’t think that’s true. Anyone CAN beat anyone, but how often does it happen? The number one team in the NCAA losing to an unranked mid major is a huge deal. The Spurs losing to the Cavaliers is a blip on the radar. 

    Also, I haven’t seen many statistics on this, but I would be willing to bet that the average margin of victory for the top NCAA teams is much higher than it is for the top NBA teams. The Heat beat teams by an average of just over 9ppg, while I don’t think Duke has won a game by less than 9 all year. 

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  • #473062
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    JBrace19
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    I agree about watching the best in the world and how its fun and all. But i just love the crowd in college basketball! it makes it so fun and crowds in the NBA arent very great. My favorite games to watch are when Duke and St. Johns are at home! It can get so crazy in those gyms its out of this world! When Singler hits three 3’s in a row or when Nolen Smith throws one down with authority is just the best! But dont get me wrong the NBA is great too i just prefer college.

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  • #473064
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "Like what have 4 different teams won the championship in over the last decade that is so corny and must be fixed."

    What is the difference between the championship dominance of the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, Bulls, and Pistons have had with that of UCLA, Kentucky, Indiana, North Carolina, Duke, and Kansas?

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  • #473068
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    T-Wolvesfan13
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    College for me. There is just more magic! I mean it so awesome during the NCAA tourny to watch some 6.2 white guy who will never play basketball after this season make the buzzer beater over a future Allstar in the NBA! I mean most of these guys are playing there last season and that they have one last shot to be a hero. Nothing more fun then watching a team win on pure guts and toughness rather then there talent.

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  • #473070
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    DNYCE

    Fail!! College players play hard so that they can once be put in the same situation as the NBA players(PAID).

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  • #473071
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "BTPH: them teams have a better shot at winning a conference game then the Wizards have at beating the Heat if the Heat actually bring it. The only reason the Heat wouldn’t beat the Wiz is because the Heat took the game off let’s be honest.

    And moreover atleast a team like Oregon can have a great recruiting class and be good next year or in 2. The Wizards have no shot at winning anything anytime soon. They better hope they can get a stud player in the draft because besides Wall their future is bleak with no money to sign anybody.

    It’s all about MONEY in the NBA. Look at Joe Johnson he knows dam well he ain’t worth the contract he signed. Sure he’s paid but look at the Hawks they just paid more for Johnson then the Heat paid for Wade, James or Bosh and the Hawks have no shot at winning a title. ZERO. You don’t think that is both corny and absurd?"

    The Wizards have a much better chance of getting better than Oregon because the draft system limits the choice of players entering the NBA. The best players in high school have the freedom to choose the college equivalent of the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs. The uphill battle for a college team trying to find relevence is much steeper and usually requires a local elite recruit who has an irratational connection to that school. Jared Sullinger and Kyrie Irving go where they are told to, and whether they want to be a Wizard or not will have to.

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  • #473074
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    andxxx
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     People need to stop pointing to the lack of parity for why the NBA isn’t as popular as the NFL they’re two different sports.  In the NFL there are 16 games compared to the NBA’s 82 games with less games of course every game is going to mean more.  There are 22 football players on the field at a time compared to the NBA’s 10 which is twice as much, which means 1 great player on a team makes more of an impact than 1 great football player.  The NBA has some parity back in the 70s which was when the NBA was least popular.  The NBA’s golden age was considered the 90s where the Bulls won practically every championship except the two years the Rockets won it.  And even when the Rockets did go to the finals in 1994 they had terrible ratings.  When teams like the Spurs and Pistons made it to the finals guess what? Low Ratings!! When the Celtics and Lakers faced in 2008 and 2010 they had the best ratings the NBA ever saw in their finals’ games.  Even the one year in the NFL when the patriots were dominating in ’07 they had the most watched and highest rated superbowl at the time.  The NFL doesn’t need that, but in the NBA’s case the more super teams the better because even though fans may hate the team (ie. Heat) they continue to watch.  In the NBA it is all about the super teams with the most star power, which is how they promote it and why its so successful I guarantee you if the NBA did not promote their stars as well as they did and was like the NFL it would not be as popular because that is something fans don’t actually want to see in a basketball game, at least for the NBA.

    Sorry for the rant, but I wished people understood just how different basketball is from other sports and how different the NBA is from anything else including colllege basketball

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  • #473076
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    DNYCE

    That’s exactly why the Lakers will trade Vagynum. The Lakers will land a legit 3rd star player. The Lakers would be more entertaining to watch with Westbrook or a Monta Ellis type player. We are going to win the championship regardless, why not win it in style? Afterall isn’t the NBA entertainment? I would love to see better guard play in the Finals(Westbrook vs Rondo).

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  • #473077
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    IknoBall12
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    I find it weird that being a duke fan im not caring a smuch to watch every gam ethis year. It feels like i only want to watch the big games becuz of the fact duke is just so good. I dont even bother to watch the duke vs elon or watever games. I think the reason i like watching the nba so much is becuz the competition is so elite. That being said it I wish the nba would change the scheduling of their games tv becuz they always seem to show the same teams playing every week whether its on tnt or espn. I like watching all players and people dont get to see all players if they dont have the nba package. The golden state warrriors are 1 of the more exciting teams to watch. Monta ellis needs to be put on tv the guy is a flatout baller

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  • #473079
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    DNYCE

    Football is like the military. Every aspect of that sport reminds me of militant bs.

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  • #473084
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    DNYCE

    You just made my point, that is exactly why I feel Ellis coming to the Lakers would be huge for his career. Ellis is the most underrated player in the NBA, and certain players need to be put in big markets.

    Ellis

    Kobe

    Wright or Artest(does it matter?)

    Odom

    Gasol

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  • #473108
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    WizardofOz
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    I watch the NBA more. I watch college Bball, but not as much as the NBA I guess because there are always certain teams that dominate. When I watch basketball, I always root for the upset unless I’m watching my team. An example is Duke. Duke dominates the ACC every year and is ranked #1 at least once througout the year. Teams like Kansas, North Carolina until now, and Duke dominate every season and are basically never trumped.

    It’s also way harder for a bad team in college to get better, while the well known schools reload every single year. Recruits don’t want to come to the schools that aren’t doing that well, and always go to the big dogs, so the same teams are good every single year. Kind of takes the excite out of it for me. I watch college, but just not that much.

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  • #473137
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    cap777
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    I am primarily an NBA fan.

    Having said that, I have to agree that the college game is more intense. I don’t think it has anything to do with what the players have to play for though, merely that the NBA season is 82 games long and the games are longer than college games. Humans just can’t push themselves that hard for that long. If there is a good match up or if the game is within reach of both teams in the fourth quarter the intensity level rises, and the players give it their all.

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  • #473197
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    Sonny Red
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    I don’t like the shorter three point line, abundance of zone defenses, longer shot clock, too many 3 balls shot, and disparity in talent that comes with the NCAA. I do think "March Madness," especially the first weekend is one of the best sporting events though.

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  • #473226
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    Grandmama
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    I like watching the best players in any sport, which means I like the NBA more.  The college game is too sloppy and there are too many below average players to really enjoy it on a nightly basis.  I love the tournament, and like watching big games, but I couldn’t give two sh*ts about Florida vs Georgia or Washington vs Cal or Texas Tech vs Colorado etc….

     

     

    Football is like the military. Every aspect of that sport reminds me of militant bs.  DNYCE

         You really should stop posting, immediately….

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