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I said, by the end of the

I said, by the end of the season, Cousins can be on this list. It's a list based on: Overall, Next 5 seasons, Value, Contract and Intangables.

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legit all-star candidate who

legit all-star candidate who coulkd probably get 18-12-5 on most teams.

So why couldn't he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he's not a 18-12-5 guy. That's that LA Bias talk

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There is no explanation for

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don't care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever... There's just no explanation.

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IF this list is based on next

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

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Kobe wont even be a top 20

Kobe wont even be a top 20 player in 5 seasons...he might not even be in the league for that matter.

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There is no explanation for

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don't care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever... There's just no explanation.

.....It's a draft. Relax. If Cousins has a fantastic 2nd half of the season, I wanna see what people say then. I think after the all star break, Cousins is gonna shine and be a legit center in the NBA. That's why I put him at 50, because I can see him cracking the list with a good 2nd half. You call it crazy, I call it look ahead.

Also, Lamar Odom isn't that good. He's alright.

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IF this list is based on next

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

- 5 things are listed....keep reading

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

-This is a list for one season, next season, Kobe will be lower and so on and so forth.

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David West is not a creation

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

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David West is not a creation

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

- He had a couple good games without Paul last season. I think if Paul wasn't there, he'd be worst IMO. Honestly, I rather have Luis Scola then West. Milsap as well then West.

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

- I never said I did, I'm just projecting based on my opinion on each player. I didn't set a exact level for each year in the next 5 seasons, I just try and project.

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Couple good games? He played

Couple good games? He played 40 or so games without Paul there and averaged 1 less point then the previous season when Paul was there. Thats more than a couple of good games.

David West isn't scoring by Paul driving and the defender goes to Paul then west gets a easy layup. He scores off of backing players down and jump hook or face up and hitting a mid range jumper in there face. West has game

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That's cool, I just don't

That's cool, I just don't like his game. Milsap and Scola are players I rather have personally. I'll consider him in the summer top 50 and he might get in.

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To be honest i don't like his

To be honest i don't like his game either..lol..but i gotta give him his due because he gets it done

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"So why couldn't he do it

"So why couldn't he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he's not a 18-12-5 guy. That's that LA Bias talk"

did you miss the part about him having a career season? He is currently getting 15-10-3 ion 33 minutes as a 4th option. Put him on lots of other teams and you dont thnk he could get an extra 3 points 2 rebounds and 2 assists? Your comments about he is "okay or all right" when everyone around the nba from announcers to coaches to media mentioned him as an all-star candidate. In fact, odom throughout his career has never been just "all right", he is a very good player and border line all-star and has been for quite some time. The west was just stacked this year with bigs.

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Are y'all refering to Odom?

Are y'all refering to Odom? His best numbers were 17.1ppg 10.6reb and 5.9 ast. Not all in the same year but those were his best years in each catagory

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He had 17-9-4 in Miami in

He had 17-9-4 in Miami in 03....I don't know if you call this year a career year. To be honest, I watched him play most of his career, he's never been that nice. He's a guy who can do all the things you want, I agree, but if he's realisitcally not a 3rd option on a good team and a better 6th man.

If you moved Odom to a team like Milwaukee, he'd be a 14-8-4 guy realistically. He has the tendency to coast in games, he's always had a questionable shot selection and overall? He's just not a guy who does it every night. He has had a good 1st half, but that's without Bynum.

Also...a all star for a while now?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odomla01.html

Man has not been a allstar at all IMO.

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hes also shooting 10

hes also shooting 10 percentage points higher then his career average and 5 percentage points higher then his career 3pt shooting. He is averaging less turnovers then he has any other year but once. His efficiency is at an all time high. his points and rebounding are both higher then his career average despte playing less minutes. Put him on some other teams and i thnk his stats rise.

In any case im not trying to nit pick becasue a top 50 list is hard to do, but i dont see any valid argument for cousins ahead of odom unless we are going based off potneital which apparently knicksboy is taking into consideration.

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so are you saying send odom

so are you saying send odom to milwaukee where he is clearly the best pf on the team and his stats drop? He has only averaged less then 9 rebounds once in the last 8 seasons and you dont thnk he could do that in milwaukee right now?

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I think he's rebound numbers

I think he's rebound numbers would drop with Bogut right next to him yes.

Also, did you really nitpick on one rebound?

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Odom is clearly better than

Odom is clearly better than just a 6th man. Thats not even debateable. And he was the third option on back to back championship teams(while Bynum was hurt). You can't be more of a proven 3rd option then that can you?

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Why wouldn't odom be able to

Why wouldn't odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn't have to share boards with Kobe

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I never said Odom was JUST a

I never said Odom was JUST a 6th man. I think he's a better 6th man then starter IMO

Also, Bynum was there for the last title, he wasn't as healthy as a ox, but he was there. I just don't think he's a top 50 player.

The list is not all potential, I feel by seasons' end, Cousins can be on the list with a strong second half. Do I need to keep repeating that?

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Why wouldn't odom be able to

Why wouldn't odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn't have to share boards with Kobe

He'd go to the Bucks, he'd share with Bogut, Illusova, Gooden and Moute

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he would get 35 minutes a

he would get 35 minutes a night with the bucks and sharing the boards with bynum, pau as well wings like kobe and artest is toguher to fight for rebounds then the bucks guys. Lakers are 4th in the nba in rebounding while the bukcs are 14th, odom's rebounding should only go up not down.

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cousins shouldnt be on

cousins shouldnt be on there...tony parker is too high IMO...and so is randolph...al jefferson a little low

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Cousins

I would be shocked if he is a top 50 player at the end of this year. He is the most foul prone player in the league and he has terrible shot selection. A center who shoots 43% from the field, doesn't block shots, and is a good, but not great rebounder, is not close to a top 50 player, especially if they don't have great intangibles and are a rookie.

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Cousin's shouldn't be on

Cousin's shouldn't be on there.

If you're saying you expect Cousin's to have a strong 2nd half. Is it possible for me to say Jeff Green is going to average a triple double for the rest of the season?

No. Base it on what they've done so far this season, not what they CAN do the 2nd half of the season. If it's about what they CAN do, Dwight CAN easily have a horrible 2nd half. Kobe CAN completely catch fire. Dwyane Wade CAN get injured. Russell Westbrook CAN start scoring 28ppg.

Don't say what they CAN do, say what they are currently doing and what they've done this season.

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@Toungeout Like I

@Toungeout

Like I said....this is a draft.

So the odds Cousins have a strong second half is the same as Green averageing a triple double? Nope. That was ONE player I put on there for what I think they CAN do. You making it like all these players are thier for what they CAN do. Relax man.

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I still don't see why Rose

I still don't see why Rose should be ranked higher than Paul. Rose is a better scorer, but in just about every other category Paul is ahead statistically this season. Paul is leading the league in steals while Rose isn't even in the top 50. Paul is ahead in assists per game as well as assist/turnover ratio. Rose is a highlight reel scorer, but I just feel Paul is a better point guard.

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@Pureshooter I'm actuallyy

@Pureshooter

I'm actuallyy shocked more people aren't cool with Rose in the top 5. I love Rose's game. I think he's a really good PG and his numbers are increasing. CP3 is probably the better player, but I perfer Rose. I feel CP3 is getting a little injury prone and he's slowing down a bit. His knee issues from last year have seemed to linger. I know he's still good, but I like Rose right now.

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