[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/draft/ultimate/draft-results.html

Kind of cool, 10 SI writers chose all-time teams and are going to go up against each other in a fantasy simulator. Here are the teams, with each persons picks as the numbers:

Alex Wolff:

1. Michael Jordan

20. David Robinson

21. Dwyane Wade

40. Dave Cowens

41. Joe Dumars

60. Nate Thurmond

61. Chris Paul

80. Dennis Johnson

81. Robert Horry

100. Terry Porter

101. Ben Wallace

120. Maurice Cheeks

Coach: Phil Jackson (Are you kidding me? This just gives people much more reason to pick this team on paper, even though the guy wanted Red. Phil was the third pick in the coaches draft.)

 

Joe Posnanski:

2. Wilt Chamberlain

19. Dr. J

22. Isiah Thomas

39. John Havlicek

42. Dirk Nowitzki

59. Dwight Howard

62. Dolph Schayes

79. Mark Price

82. Grant Hill

99. Vince Carter

102. Jerry Lucas

119. Michael Cooper

Coach: Bob Knight

 

Chris Ballard:

3. Bill Russell

18. LeBron James

23. Charles Barkley

38. Reggie Miller

43. Dennis Rodman

58. Chris Mullin

63. Arvydas Sabonis

78. Deron Williams

83. Nate "Tiny" Archibald

98. Carmelo Anthony

103. Shawn Marion

118. Bill Laimbeer

Coach: Mike Krzyzewski

 

Lee "Roy" Jenkins:

4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

17. Karl Malone

24. Jason Kidd

37. George Gervin

44. James Worthy

57. Pete Maravich

64. Robert Parish

77. David Thompson

84. Larry Nance

97. Lenny Wilkens

104. Alex English

117. Dan Issel

Coach: John Wooden (Never coached in the NBA. Last pick in coaches draft. Amazing choice.)

 

Jack McCallum:

5. Oscar Robertson

16. Elgin Baylor

25. Scottie Pippen

36. Kevin McHale

45. Wes Unseld

56. Ray Allen

65. Dave DeBusschere

76. Earl Monroe

85. Pau Gasol

96. Bill Sharman

105. Jack Sikma

116. Gail Goodrich

Coach: Doug Moe

 

Paul Forrester:

6. Shaquille O’Neal

15. Jerry West

26. Walt Frazier

35. Bob Pettit

46. Dominique Wilkins

55. Elvin Hayes

66. Kevin Johnson

75. Tracy McGrady

86. Artis Gilmore

95. Kevin Durant

106. Chauncey Billups

115. Joe Johnson

Coach: Pat Riley (First pick in the coaches draft. Surprised me.)

 

Ian Thomsen:

7. Larry Bird

14. Bill Walton

27. Clyde Drexler

34. Steve Nash

47. Alonzo Mourning

54. Manu Ginobili

67. Chris Webber

74. Michael Ray Richardson

87. Dikembe Mutombo

94. Andrei Kirilenko

107. Fred Brown

114. Blake Griffin

Coach: Red Auerbach

 

Phil Taylor:

8. Magic Johnson

13. Moses Malone

28. Rick Barry

33. Bob McAdoo

48. Sdney Moncrief

53. George Mikan

68. Penny Hardaway

73. Spencer Haywood

88. Billy Cunningham

93. Mitch Richmond

108. Charles Oakley

113. Derrick Rose

Coach: Don Nelson

 

Chris Mannix:

9. Kobe Bryant

12. John Stockton

29. Willis Reed

32. Patrick Ewing

49. Bernard King

52. Paul Pierce

69. Chris Bosh

72. Amare Stoudemire

89. Rajon Rondo

92. Brad Daugherty

109. Adrian Dantley

112. Kevin Love

Coach: Chuck Daly

 

Richard Deitsch:

10. Tim Duncan

11. Hakeem Olajuwon

30. Bob Cousy

31. Kevin Garnett

50. Gary Payton

51. Allen Iverson

70. Sam Jones

71. Connie Hawkins

90. Bob Lanier

91. Hal Greer

110. Dave Bing

111. Bobby Jones

Coach: Gregg Popovich

 

Here is how there fake season played out (So cool):

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/draft/ultimate/standings-stats.html

 

For those too lazy to click the link:

Scoring title went to: LeBron James (30.3 ppg)

Followed by: Wilt Chamberlain (29.2 ppg), Michael Jordan (28.4), Dwyane Wade (27.6, on same team as MJ), George Gervin (27)

Rebounding title: Wilt Chamberlain (13.9) (Dennis Rodman not in top 10? Huh?)

Assist Title: Magic Johnson (13.7)

Shot Blocking Title: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (3.8)

Steals Title: MJ (2.9)

Most Turnovers: LeBron by a landslide (5.4) (Ouch, his pride)

 

Play-off Teams:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/draft/ultimate/playoffs.html

#1 seed Chris Ballard vs. #4 seed Paul Forrester (Ballard wins 4-2)

#2 seed Joe Posnanski vs. #3 seed Alex Wolff (Posnanski wins 4-2)

Finals:

Team Posnanski over Team Ballard 4-3

Finals MVP: Wilt Chamberlain 28.9 and 13.3

 

 

 

 

Thoughts? You guys upset at who won? Think things would have turned out differently? Who went to high and who went too low? Just thought this was a fun thing, plus it is cool how the Simulation turned out and all. I think this was the site they used for the simulation:

http://www.strat-o-matic.com/

 

 

 

[Michael.S.Participant]

If I had Chamberlain on my fantasy team this year you fools would have gt killed, thats fr sure.

[Michael.S.Participant]

If I had Chamberlain on my fantasy team this year you fools would have gt killed, thats fr sure.

[TRC1991Participant]

LOL @ Ian Thomsen who picked bill walton at 14 when dirk nowitzki, karl malone, dwight howard, lebron james, elgin baylor and david robinson were all available.. no surprise he didnt make the playoffs

 

cool article though.

 

BTW bill walton has just over 6,215 career points which is less than rafer alston…

[TRC1991Participant]

LOL @ Ian Thomsen who picked bill walton at 14 when dirk nowitzki, karl malone, dwight howard, lebron james, elgin baylor and david robinson were all available.. no surprise he didnt make the playoffs

 

cool article though.

 

BTW bill walton has just over 6,215 career points which is less than rafer alston…

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

1961-62:

Wilt Chamberlain: 50.4 ppg, 25.7 rpg, 2.4 apg (.506 FG%, .613 FT%)

Oscar Robertson: 30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 11.4 apg (.478 FG%, .803 FT%)

Elgin Baylor: 38.3 ppg, 18.6 rpg, 4.6 apg (.428 FG%, .754 FT%) also only played in 48 games due to military service requirement

Jerry West: 30.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.4 apg (.445 FG%, .769 FT%)

Bob Pettit: 31.1 ppg, 18.7 rpg, 3.7 apg (.450 FG%, .771 FT%)

Richie Guerin: 29.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 6.9 apg (.442 FG%, .820 FT%)

All played over 41 minutes per game

The MVP of that year:

Bill Russell: 18.9 ppg, 23.6 rpg, 4.5 apg (.457 FG%, .595 FT%)

 

Definitely was not fantasy MVP of that season, but the players voted Russell as the MVP of the 1961-62 season. It was his highest scoring season as a player.

Something you might not know: Wilt Chamberlain per 48 minute averages were actually LOWER than his season totals. Wilt, who never fouled out of a NBA game, played every minute of every game that year other than one, which I believed he was ejected from after two technicals. He averaged 48.5 minutes per game that season, while posting the highest scoring average of All-Time at 50.4 ppg (5.6 ppg higher than his own second place total, which he posted the next season). This was also the season in which Wilt had more than likely the best fantasy game of All-Time, when he scored 100 points in a game. They unfortunately did not keep block or steal totals, and this was before the existence of the three point line.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

1961-62:

Wilt Chamberlain: 50.4 ppg, 25.7 rpg, 2.4 apg (.506 FG%, .613 FT%)

Oscar Robertson: 30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 11.4 apg (.478 FG%, .803 FT%)

Elgin Baylor: 38.3 ppg, 18.6 rpg, 4.6 apg (.428 FG%, .754 FT%) also only played in 48 games due to military service requirement

Jerry West: 30.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.4 apg (.445 FG%, .769 FT%)

Bob Pettit: 31.1 ppg, 18.7 rpg, 3.7 apg (.450 FG%, .771 FT%)

Richie Guerin: 29.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 6.9 apg (.442 FG%, .820 FT%)

All played over 41 minutes per game

The MVP of that year:

Bill Russell: 18.9 ppg, 23.6 rpg, 4.5 apg (.457 FG%, .595 FT%)

 

Definitely was not fantasy MVP of that season, but the players voted Russell as the MVP of the 1961-62 season. It was his highest scoring season as a player.

Something you might not know: Wilt Chamberlain per 48 minute averages were actually LOWER than his season totals. Wilt, who never fouled out of a NBA game, played every minute of every game that year other than one, which I believed he was ejected from after two technicals. He averaged 48.5 minutes per game that season, while posting the highest scoring average of All-Time at 50.4 ppg (5.6 ppg higher than his own second place total, which he posted the next season). This was also the season in which Wilt had more than likely the best fantasy game of All-Time, when he scored 100 points in a game. They unfortunately did not keep block or steal totals, and this was before the existence of the three point line.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Also was the best player in basketball for a couple years on the Blazers, and lead a team to a championship. It was a calculated risk of a pick, but if you are going by players in their primes, which I believe they were rather than on average, Walton could have been one of the greats. He was an amazing passer and rebounder, he really could dominate a game without scoring. Not to mention, he made his teammates astronomically better. He won the title in 1977, and was named the MVP of the 1978 season, one where he played only 58 games and could not play in the play-offs. The Blazers were 48-10 with him in the line-up, and looked like potential back-to-back champs, and when Walton went down, they finished 10-14, losing their first match-up in the play-offs to a 47-35 Seattle Super Sonics squad.

So, I agree, Walton may not be one of the NBA’s All-Time greats by career standards, he only played 482 games in 10 years and only had a few season where he was truly great. I was slightly surprised he was chosen as early as he was. But, if you ask most NBA experts who the great All-Time players were, without "legacy" or overall career achievement, or a player scoring more points than them, they rank Bill Walton incredibly highly on the list. The crazy part though is, this thing factored in injuries, in which case I would think Walton might slip big time. It was a tragedy, but he had awful knees and a terrible back, which was the reason his career was so restrcited. Nonetheless, he had those two years he was arguably the best in the world where he won a ring and an MVP, pretty incredible achievements. Plus, the only full season he played (80 games, at least), he won 6th man of the year and was a valuable piece of a Bird lead Boston teams championship. That is why the guy has such a cult following amongst basketball writers, he was a winner.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Also was the best player in basketball for a couple years on the Blazers, and lead a team to a championship. It was a calculated risk of a pick, but if you are going by players in their primes, which I believe they were rather than on average, Walton could have been one of the greats. He was an amazing passer and rebounder, he really could dominate a game without scoring. Not to mention, he made his teammates astronomically better. He won the title in 1977, and was named the MVP of the 1978 season, one where he played only 58 games and could not play in the play-offs. The Blazers were 48-10 with him in the line-up, and looked like potential back-to-back champs, and when Walton went down, they finished 10-14, losing their first match-up in the play-offs to a 47-35 Seattle Super Sonics squad.

So, I agree, Walton may not be one of the NBA’s All-Time greats by career standards, he only played 482 games in 10 years and only had a few season where he was truly great. I was slightly surprised he was chosen as early as he was. But, if you ask most NBA experts who the great All-Time players were, without "legacy" or overall career achievement, or a player scoring more points than them, they rank Bill Walton incredibly highly on the list. The crazy part though is, this thing factored in injuries, in which case I would think Walton might slip big time. It was a tragedy, but he had awful knees and a terrible back, which was the reason his career was so restrcited. Nonetheless, he had those two years he was arguably the best in the world where he won a ring and an MVP, pretty incredible achievements. Plus, the only full season he played (80 games, at least), he won 6th man of the year and was a valuable piece of a Bird lead Boston teams championship. That is why the guy has such a cult following amongst basketball writers, he was a winner.

[trelos6Participant]

 I was thinking of posting this article.

I love how they did a season simulation and ended up with stat leaders.

 

[trelos6Participant]

 I was thinking of posting this article.

I love how they did a season simulation and ended up with stat leaders.

 

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