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Nash would listen to the Heat

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7752775/steve-nash-...

"I'm not coming back to the Suns if there isn't improvement," Nash told "The Dan Patrick Show".

Nash explained he's expecting the Suns to try to make those improvements, but that he's looking forward to becoming a free agent and deciding where to continue his career.

The hypothetical of LeBron James asking Nash to join up in Miami for one last push at a championship was brought up.

"I would listen," Nash said. "He's phenomenal. I love what they're doing there. A lot of people don't like them because they put all that talent there. But they're professional, they play hard, they play together. Their coaching staff has done a great job, so I have a tremendous amount of respect for them.

"I would definitely listen."

It shouldn't surprise anyone the 38-year-old point guard without a world championship might be enticed by the idea of joining a contender that has what many consider a relative hole at the point guard slot.

Keeping the Heat in the conversation could be used as leverage in negotiations with other teams. But joining the Heat would mean that Nash would be leaving millions of dollars on the table.

The Heat won't have any salary-cap space next summer, so Nash would have to settle for the mid-level exception if he wanted to join the club.

Plenty of teams, including the Suns, could offer much more money than the Heat.

But for someone who has earned about $120 million during his career, sacrificing some money for winning a title might be palatable to Nash.

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I'm not sure if this has been posted already but Steve Nash stated he is open to signing with the Miami Heat this upcoming offseason. Any thoughts on this? I personally think he'd set this team up very well and would end up averaging 8ppg, along with 13 apg. I mean, if an Amar'e-Nash pick and roll seemed unstoppable, can you imagine a LeBron-Nash pick and roll? Nash-Wade-James, would you consider this the greatest backcourt of all time?


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As a Suns fan I'd love Nash

As a Suns fan I'd love Nash to stay with the team but at 38 years old, no-one could deny him one last run with a genuine contender. Money would not be an issue for a guy of his wealth but with so many veteran FA's around this summer, there could well be a domino effect once D-Will decides what he wants to do and the veteran FA's decide if they want to play on or not.

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PG:Nash SG: Wade Sf:

PG:Nash

SG: Wade

Sf: Lebron

PF: Bosh

C: Joel Anthony

That team is really really really good. Then you have chalmers, cole, haslem, miller, battier, etc coming off the bench. Would be scary

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I swear I just read this same

I swear I just read this same story but just replace Nash name with Terry. If Dallas doesn't get D-Will I see Nash retiring a Mav.

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"But they're professional,

"But they're professional, they play hard, they play together. Their coaching staff has done a great job"

What team is Nash talking about, because what he described wasn't the Heat. I would just hate seeing Nash in a Heat uni even if it did get him a ring.

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^ I think Ronny Turiaf would

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I think Ronny Turiaf would be the starter by then. He's a legit 6'10 and is wider/stronger than Anthony. I think it's only a matter of Turiaf getting in shape before he becomes the starter on this team. Regardless, that would be huge for the Heat and as a Nash supporter and fan of his game, I would love for him to win a ring by the end of his career. Although he's 38, he still has the legs for atleast two good season, if he joins the Heat, he would have the biggest chance to win a championship in those two years.

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I Dont Think

ok but if nash join the heat, i think it will be bitter sweet because lebron and wade both off ball, their gonna suffer statistically, and Nash plays no defense wats so ever so, and is to small to guard 1 dimensional 2guards so wade can guard the better backcourt player. And if they use nash as a spot up shooter they r not utalizing him. And as a Laker fan im wondering where in the hell do the miami heat keep getting so many MotherF@$%ing Mid Level Exceptions from

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LeBron and Wade have vastly

LeBron and Wade have vastly improved their off-ball skills compared to last season. Nash is not small by any means, he's a solid 6'4 which is great for his position and with defenders like James, Wade, Haslem, Anthony, Turiaf, and Battier, you can afford to have one weak-link in the equation.

Not only that but Nash will make LeBron and Wade improve even more when it comes to off-ball situations. I think you're forgetting exactly how good Nash can make other players and how much he improves them, he's going to make LeBron's life a whole lot easier since LeBron is the primary scorer, primary ball-handler, and primary passer. If Nash goes to the Heat, he'll be the primary ball-handler and primary passer, leaving LeBron to score, rebound, and defend.

I think you're forcing yourself to see the negative aspect that simply isn't there. The Miami Heat have terrific team defense and they make-up for any poor defense that is made by one player. Sure Nash won't be able to guard Rose, but Wade and LeBron can. Nash can't guard Westbrook or Rondo but Wade and LeBron can. If someone drives the lane and gets passed Nash, they still have to get passed a combination of James-Wade-Bosh-Haslem-Turiaf-Anthony-Battier.

Also, Nash doesn't play much defense because he's never been on a team that plays defense. If he were to join the Miami Heat, I could see his defense improving a bit a la Ray Allen when he joined the Celtics. Ray Allen was a terrible defender in Seattle but since he's joined the Boston Celtics, he's been one of their best perimeter defenders, probably the best perimeter defender on that team after Rondo.

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hmm

I don't know about Nash joining the Heat. Lebron and D wade dominate the ball on offense and Nash doesn't play any D. Nash sets people up, something Dwade and Lebron already do. Lebron had a hard enough time adjusting to Dwade all last year and now if you throw in another ball dominating guard (Nash) it'll take them time to re-adjust, something they can ill afford to do if they don't win a ring this year. Not sure if Nash can adujust his game, specially at his age.

Personally I'm sick and tired of Nash. He keep saying oh I want to be loyal to Phoenix and won't demand a trade. Why don't he just say he's not resigning. If he its said that he's mad Phoenix didn't sign Diaw and that may be a reason he might leave because they arent commited to winning, Diaw was not going to put the Suns in championship talk. He was out of shape all year and was disinterested. Nash is giong to try to look like he's the nice guy and he's the vicitim in Phoenix. This is an excuse for him to start his exit strategy. Plus throw money at him and he'll play for anyone...just like when he signed the contract with Phoenix. He took the money over loyalty to Dirk and the Mavs to sign with the Suns. Yeah they drafted him but the Mavs gave him his chance.

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I agree with the post above.

I agree with the post above. LeBron is WAY too ball dominant for this to be a match made in heaven. And when he isn't ball dominant, Wade is. Steve Nash is spectacular at driving/dishing, but it's not like LeBron or D-Wade would be content with spot shooting. Hell, you really think LeBron would be content with not having the ball in his hands anywhere near as much? I just don't see it happening.

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Nash isn't that tall he's more like 6'2 still good size but him and John Wall aren't the same height

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I think saying Nash is 6'2 is

I think saying Nash is 6'2 is pushing it. I don't think you guys have watched many Heat games if you think Wade and James have not improved off-ball. To say Nash is a ball-dominant guard is completely incorrect, this guy moves great without the ball and is a spectacular 50-40-90 shooter. He would be content with hitting the open gaps off screens or wide-open jumpers a la Ray Allen with Pierce and Garnett.

Wade and James move without the ball very well, especially Wade. They still have their moments when they get stagnent but to say they do not have any off-ball skills is ridiculous. I mean, can you imagine a pick and roll with Nash and LeBron? It would be unstoppable. Watch these next 5 or 6 Heat games and you'll see it instead of watching the nationally televised games once a month. (Difficult to convey tone here but it's not hostile)

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I'm with tol. And no1 mention pick& roll/pop with bosh

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Pick and pop with bosh is fine....if bosh was on phoenix. But you're talking about the heat and Lebron and Dwade. Bosh wouldnt have even went there if Lebron didn't. That team is supposed to be built around them and they are supposed to carry a team to about 8 titles according to them. As far as watching the heat I think most people here watch as many games as possible and alot probably have league pass. But even if they don't its evident that the Heat are Lebron and Dwades team. And nationally televised games are usually against the best teams so watching a locally televised league pass game with lebron pick and roll against the Bobcats as opposed to watching a nationally the heat play almost twice a week doesn't make people not know about that team. Its all about Lebron and Dwade carrying them.

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They run the pick and roll

They run the pick and roll with chalmers/cole and bosh all the time. Chalmers usg% is 16 compared to Nash's, not a big difference. If u watched every single heat game you would know.

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yeaa

I dont watch EVERY heat game but I seen enough to know that anyone who think pick an pop with nolechalmers and bosh is their main offensive play they dont watch enough. That team is all about lebron and dwad creating for everyone. Plus it's chemistry issues with Nash. for that team, ddding Turiaf was better than adding nash.

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Wow bro idk what to tell if

Wow bro idk what to tell if you think Turiaf is better than Nash for the heat. Did u know cole is 5/30 from the floor since the all star break? I'm telling you, Nash would run the pick and roll quite a lot if he came to miami. I think running the p&r with bron won't happen much but with bosh, DEF.

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Thats good for the Heats if

Thats good for the Heats if it happens. But I really dislike it that the Heats and the Knicks are getting every talent in the League.

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nope

No I didn't know that about cole. But what im sayin is that a ball dominant guard like Nash would cause the heat to adjust the way they play again. Wouldn't a lockdown defender at pg and a solid defender who can score in the middle be more of a need? Turiaf is a better player than Anthony and he does it without the ball. They got enough on that team to win now

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I know, I want Turiaf as a

I know, I want Turiaf as a starter actually and bring Joel off the bench even if he ends up playing more mins.

Nash is not that ball dominant, I made a typo up there, I didn't write what I was trying to say. Chalmers usg% (the amount of time he holds the ball) is 16% compared to Nash's 20, not a big difference.

A lockdown defender that can score in the middle is not what we need, we need a guy that can stretch the floor in the half court and push the break.

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Yeah... you don't watch the

Yeah... you don't watch the Heat. Hell, you probably don't even watch Nash if you're going to call him a ball-dominant guard. On the real, watch some basketball beforehand. Nash plays off-ball very well. Shoots the open gaps and is a terrific player off screens. He doesn't do it because he's better off setting up his teammates but if he played with Wade/LeBron, two good passers, he would need to change his game, not the Miami Heat.

You're basically saying, don't add more weapons because they're good enough? If that's the case, there should be no free-agent signings for the Bulls, Lakers, Thunder, Heat, Knicks, and Spurs according to you because they already have all the tools. Should the Bulls release Richard Hamilton and forfeit their draft picks this year because they "got enough on that team to win now".

No. You add anything you can to your team to make them better. Like I said, Nash wouldn't change their offensive system, he would change his game to fit their needs and would add more of a variety on offense.

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Its cool bro, I can see why

Its cool bro, I can see why come1 would think Nash is not a good fit. But he is

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Count the number of seconds

Count the number of seconds Nash has the ball in his hands until the time they shoot. And no you got me all wrong...any team can go after any player...but the heat have enough to win now. They were 2 games away from winning last year. All that other nonsense you're talking I have no idea what it's all about. Add all the weapons you want....but chemistry is more important. They got enough stars on that team to win now.

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ohh

And Nash change his game to fit them? Why not get someone who dont have to change his game. A steve Kerr type would be a better fit.

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Nash is perfect.

Nash is perfect.

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lol

Future-scout I guess we have to agree to disagree lol. You did bring up good points

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I can't see why Steve Nash

I can't see why Steve Nash cannot play a Steve Kerr role? He's a better shooter, better ball-handler, and a better passers. In essence, you'd be getting a rich man's Steve Kerr, why is that so impossible for the Heat to acquire?

Steve Kerr was a terrible defender and was not athletic at all and he was a PERFECT fit for Chicago with Jordan/Pippen. Why won't Nash who does everything Kerr did, and then some, be a perfect fit in Miami with Wade/LeBron?

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exactly

You just proved my point. If you think Kerr was perfect for Jordan/Pippen how can you think Nash would be a good fit for Lebron/Wade? The offense ran through Jordan and Pippen, not Kerr. If you're saying Nash is a perfect fit for the Heat, why would he have to alter his game? That means he's NOT a perfect fit. A perfect fit means no adjusments need to be made. What you said about Nash better than Kerr, you're right and if Nash wants to take a pay cut to play there thats right to..he can. But like I said, if he's a perfect fit he shouldn't have to alter his game.

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