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Nash to the Lakers!

Reported via Twitter by Marc Stein, CBSSports, and Alex Kennedy. The Lakers have agreed to send future first picks in a sign and trade to Phoenix for Steve Nash!

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/220675941301620737


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Odd...how are future picks

Odd...how are future picks better than potentially Iman Shumpert?

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Would rather Shumpert, but

Would rather Shumpert, but I'm guessing thisis the team Nash requested. Suns owe it to him, and if they're smart, I'll protect the picks to not begin coming over until 3+ years from now, post Kobe-Nash-Gasol era.

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Showtime 2.0

I think that OKC is still the favorite out West. They are getting more experienced and they added Perry Jones who I like. I think they need to add another rotation guy or two but they look nice.

The Lakers got a 3rd seed last year and I think they will move up to the 2 spot. Barely behind the Thunder. I think that Nash will revitalize Kobe and Pau and make Bynum look like a superstar. They need some more rotation guys, especially on the wing, but look for Devin Ebanks to have a solid season along with Barnes. I think Nash can get those two going. If I were the Lakers I would start Ebanks or Barnes and then bring Metta off the bench to lead the second unit. I think they should go with a powerful, high-octane first unit, then a grind-it-out second unit led by Metta, Ebanks or Matt Barnes, Steve Blake, and Goudelock. I would use MWP as a so-everything 6th man so they can save him a bit to defend in the playoffs.

It looks like the top four teams for next year are set, unless the Nets get Dwight Howard. Miami in the East. OKC out west. With the Celtics and Lakers just behind them. Then I think there is quite a dropoff to the next best teams like the Spurs (older), Clippers, Grizzlies, Bulls (Rose won't be 100%), Nets, Knicks, and Pacers.

I think the Heat are the favorites but you can't count out a team with Kobe, Nash, and two all-star big men.

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Lakers have a lot more fire

Lakers have a lot more fire power now so it will be interesting to see if they move anybody else but you have to think Nash and Kobe will get veterans to come play and help them win it all. their bench next season will be ready. Jordan Hill could even sign a two year deal to stay to get a ring. You hate to be that guy who came too late for a ring and left to early for a ring. I don't care how much money you have that sucks.

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Now we need a stretch 4 and a

Now we need a stretch 4 and a consistent shooter...and we're good to go.

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Grant Hill

I would think this means the Lakers will get Grant Hill because of Hill's close relationship to Nash.

We need to pump the breaks a bit because David Stern still has some time to veto this one, jk.

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This trade is weird and

This trade is weird and brings up a ton of questions:

1. Without any pick and roll players besides Nash, do they lose Nash's biggest strength?

2. Can Kobe share the ball enough to make it work with Nash?

3. Do they bring in Grant? Does that mean they amnesty Ron?

4. Can they afford to keep Pau now or is he on his way out? (love someone on ESPN's idea of a sign and trade with Pau for JJ Reddick and Ryan Anderson).

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They actually have two types

They actually have two types of pick and roll players. Bynum can pick than roll for the dunk or Gasol can pick and pop for the jumper that he loves to take. I doubt that they resign hill because players like him who have had low contracts and are still young pick more money over a ring, they can also go to a title contender later in their career. Plus a agent would be dumb to try to convince him to taker less money for a ring, bad business.

My Lakers got better but they still are behind OKC and the only way that will change is if Kobe decides to find a balance between taking shots and passing as well as Gasol showing up in the playoffs.

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Grant Hill

I would think this means the Lakers will get Grant Hill because of Hill's close relationship to Nash.

We need to pump the breaks a bit because David Stern still has some time to veto this one, jk.

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This makes the LA Lakers more

This makes the LA Lakers more attractive to Dwight Howard. The Magic can't do better than getting Andrew Bynum. Plus they could possibly get Metta or they could get rid of Hedo.

It would be hard to beat a Kobe, Howard, Nash, and Pau Big Four.

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Ny brother just called and

Ny brother just called and told me this. As a Laker fan I'm super excited and have to feel like with the addition of Steve Nash that LAL is exactly where he needs to be with 2 clutch superstars on the backside of their careers where he can potentially win with them, and then be the dog after them.

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If dwight gets traded to the

If dwight gets traded to the lakers lob city belongs to the lakers

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That $hit Cray! I guess the

That $hit Cray!

I guess the immediate question is does this make the Lakers favorites for next season? Nash's game mangement is top 2 in the league, next to CP3... Can Kobe let Nash to his thing?

How wise is it to give up a 1st, or multiple 1st's for a player who will be done in 3 years?

Does this mean Gasol is out? What about MWP. Lakers might have a tough time paying all these dudes. Me thinks theres gonna be another move or 2 in Laker land.

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As a Lakers fan I'm not

As a Lakers fan I'm not really sure what to think about this. Now don't get me wrong, I love Nash and I think he is one of the best point guards of all time. However, for a team that is esentially in a battle against OKC to get to the finals, a 38 year old veteran who can't defend may not be the best option when Westbrook is the opposing point guard. I very well may be completely wrong and Nash may lead them to a championship next year (PLEASE!!) but I just don't want to get too excited yet. Once a player gets past a certain point they may decline drastically. Nash looks like he's been stuck at age 30 for the past 7 seasons but eventually age is going to have to catch up with him. I'm really happy the Lakers got Steve Nash because I believe he'll give us a better chance to win than Sessions or anyone else we had, but I'm not ready to say he'll be as great as he's been the last few years in Phoenix. Only time will tell I guess.

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As a Lakers fan I'm not

As a Lakers fan I'm not really sure what to think about this. Now don't get me wrong, I love Nash and I think he is one of the best point guards of all time. However, for a team that is esentially in a battle against OKC to get to the finals, a 38 year old veteran who can't defend may not be the best option when Westbrook is the opposing point guard. I very well may be completely wrong and Nash may lead them to a championship next year (PLEASE!!) but I just don't want to get too excited yet. Once a player gets past a certain point they may decline drastically. Nash looks like he's been stuck at age 30 for the past 7 seasons but eventually age is going to have to catch up with him. I'm really happy the Lakers got Steve Nash because I believe he'll give us a better chance to win than Sessions or anyone else we had, but I'm not ready to say he'll be as great as he's been the last few years in Phoenix. Only time will tell I guess.

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Do the suns go for

Do the suns go for Dragic now?

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The championship window might

The championship window might have opened up for the Lakers, but for how long? This is a win now situation they're in and trading draft picks isn't going to give them anything in the future. They need to ditch Metta World Peace for someone younger.

On a side note, Steve Nash wants to recruit Grant Hill to the team

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Suns owner cheap or

Suns owner cheap or something. Why would you trade your best player to a team in the same division?

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Because they are getting 4

Because they are getting 4 draft picks, and it's not like the Suns are close to competing for championship anytime soon. Also, instead of losing him and not getting anything in return, they are getting a pretty nice return.

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All the Lakers need now is an

All the Lakers need now is an athletic wing that can hit the 3 ball... (Like in 2009 with Ariza) and they're good to go....

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I know he's aging but man is

I know he's aging but man is this HUGE for the Lakers, this past season, even though the Lakers had success to some point, I didn't regard them as serious coontenders, but with this I am back on the bandwagon, the only question I have is how is Nash going to adapt to a different offensive system? He's thrived in a run'n gun system the past 8 years, and now he's gonna go to a grindit out defensive team, nonetheless this is a great move for LA, Nash will be able to set up Kobe and the bigs, they now have someone that can throw an entry pass, I expect Kobe to morph into a low post player now rahter than a 20 foot fadeaway shooter, now that Nash can get him the ball in the post, and Nash to me is still a legit threat to drop 20 on any given night, and is still one of the premier shooters in the game, great pickup by LA, but I still think they need one mroe solid player off the bench because they have zero depth right now. And Nash will be recruiting Grant Hill, who is getting German surgery on his knee, if he can get back to 2010 form, he'd be a key role player for the Lakers, who desperatly need help off the bench.

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Kendall Marshall.

Am I the only one excited that now we get to see Kendall Marshall start from day 1? As of right now the Suns have very little around him but I think we will learn rather quickly whether or not he's a starting quality point guard. I'm hoping he far exceeds expectations! And good luck to Nash and Kobe. Gonna be very intersting to see how well they play together.

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Kendall Marshall.

Am I the only one excited that now we get to see Kendall Marshall start from day 1? As of right now the Suns have very little around him but I think we will learn rather quickly whether or not he's a starting quality point guard. I'm hoping he far exceeds expectations! And good luck to Nash and Kobe. Gonna be very intersting to see how well they play together.

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Steve Nash might be the only

Steve Nash might be the only thing that could nullify Mike Browns' stagnant offense. Should be an interesting year, and I'm interested to see what Nash does in a slower offense, and how this effects Bynum. It's no secret that Nash can make any big man look good, let alone Bynum and Pau.

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Crazy, right?

I'm not suprised, the Suns did this trade to thank Nash for all of his service to PHX. Call it a coup maybe, but I'm not complaining. Since the Nets have almost no cap room and a sparse # of assets to trade to the Magic, maybe Dwight will change his tune about following in Shaq's shoes (just don't tell him that).

Should Dwight come to LA, Knicks get to keep Lin (I don't know why they're so hesitant in signing him, dude is a cash cow, skilled player or not), Kobe, Nash, Dwight, and the Lakers get (yet another) title run, and David Stern just got richer. Everybody wins!

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will suns fans boo nash

because they hate Kobe so much & a division rival in the Lakers. Nash was the Face & now he's playing for the Rivals. I think he will still get a Standing Ovation.

As far as playing idk if Nash is that potent force that the LAL need to get Out of the West. Should be interesting \.

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I'm shocked... I figured he'd

I'm shocked... I figured he'd go to the Mavs or Raptors. I love this move for the Lakers. Steve Nash is still an amazing point guard.

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Great move for LA. Nash is

Great move for LA. Nash is my favorite player so I am definitely excited, but this will probably lead to another move for LA. If LA wanted Gasol out before due to money reasons this will put more pressure on them.

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LOL

I didn't see this happening but oh well. I guess the Lakers are really putting all their eggs in one basket for this one. They basically traded their future away with draft picks, but its not like they need them I guess? I just don't know if this was the right move or not. Nash is an amazing player, but father time is still undefeated. And 38 going on 39 I just don't know. They are completely throwing defense out of the window. And we all know their bench situation. With all that being said, next season should be interesting.

I still don't see the Lakers getting out of the west. But thats just me.

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Being an LA fan I must

Being an LA fan I must say..YIPPPIEEEEEE!!! This definitely is going to help the overall team consistancy of the Lakers and will honestly balance out a lot of things. Nash is a king at setting the team up. This is perfect for him. Also this is going to take a large toll off Kobe considering Nash has experience and leadership skills, Kobe will be able to do what he does best and that is be the Black Mamba. LA fans are doin it big next season!!

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I am a Lakers fan too and

I am a Lakers fan too and Kobe has never really played with an elite point guard and Nash will do something no one thought could be done at Kobe's age and make him better. I never saw this coming and I have to give props to Mitch Kupchak for pulling this off

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Please help me understand.

Wasn't Nash an unrestricted free agent? If so, did the Lakers want him traded rather than signing him directly simply to avoid the luxury tax since they have a trade exception? Am I understanding this correctly?

It just seems crazy to me to send 4 draft picks and pay $3M simply to avoid the luxury tax if that were the case. Am I missing something here?

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I'm just assuming/hoping it

I'm just assuming/hoping it was Nash's idea to give back to Phoenix.

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The way it works is that the

The way it works is that the Lakers were over the cap, meaning the most they could sign Nash to is the Mid-level, or the mini-mid-level, whichever applies to them, so they simply can't offer a deal over that amount of money to anyone, and Nash got an average of 9 million per year, much more than either exception. The reason the sign and trade worked is because of the trade exception, that allowed them to just simply take on his contract as long as it fit into the exception, which it did because Odom was getting around 8-9 mil per year as well.

So they couldn't directly sign to this specific contract simply because they were over the cap, however the trade exception made it all work out, but damn are they going to have quite a bit of cap inflexibility.

My bad, hotsnot, already described it much better detail.

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Haha everyone was bashing me

Haha everyone was bashing me a few weeks ago for saying he would sign with the Lakers

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/20-best-free-agents-and-where-they-will-go

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As a Knicks fan

As a Knicks fan I am happy he went to LA. I love Nashs' game but I did not want to give up Shumpert. As great as Nash is I rather keep Shump, match any Lin offer and sign Kidd to miny mid level.

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To those who asked the

To those who asked the question... Lakers had to send a boat load of picks to get the sign and trade done with Phoenix. Phoenix didn't want to deal to the rival Lakers. So the Lakers bribed Phx for cooperation. Lakers needed a sign and trade because they are over the cap and couldn't sign Nash as a UFA. However, Lakers had a trade exception from the Mavs of 8.9 mil from the Lamar Odom deal with the Mavs. Trade exceptions allow a team over the cap to take back salary equivelant to the difference of salaries in the trade it was used for up to one year. Odom was shipped for a 2nd round pick... so the Lakers got an 8.9mil exception and used it on Nash... In A Trade. I can't believe PHX turned and unrestricted 38 year old player who was all but sure to walk away for nothing into 4 Picks! Two 1sts and two 2nds. Just banana's! It makes Dwights offers look sad and he's in the prime of his career...

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Best of luck to you Steve,

Best of luck to you Steve, and thanks for the memories you gave me and all the people here in the great state of Arizona.

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