Myck Kabongo's LEGITIMATE comparison?
Myck Kabongo reminds me so much of former St. John's PG Erick Barkley versus the Rajon Rondo/T.J. Ford he gets from the forum. Kabongo is nowhere near both Rondo/Ford in the athleticism department. I know many on the forum may be too young to even remember Barkley, but I feel this one is spot on. If you can try to find some old Youtube clips of Barkley with that St. John's squad consisting of Ron Artest, Bootsy Thornton, and Lavor Postell do so. Also Barkley was a former McDonald's All American prospect in 1998, who happened to pave the Omar Cook way along with Elijah Ingram under Head Coach Mike Jarvis.
Don't view kabongo as similar to Rondo either. Rondo had higher IQ and was mainly a dunker in college. Kabongo is not the same passer either. I cant call it with him. I think he should stay in school.
Just watch some film, clips etc. of Erick Barkley. I believe I have this comparison spot on, because I followed St. John's and Cincinnati heavy in that era, soley off the strength they were with the Team Jordan Brand.
Eric Barkley was a really good college player, tough and competitive. Kabongo should hope to have the success at the colligate level Barkley had, he was a leader. I hope Kabongo has greater success as a pro though. People always mention how Ben Howland and UCLA players are better pro's than his system allows them to show in college. The same is true for Rick Barnes and Texas. Guys dont like to stay at Texas long enough to max out there potential, something is going on there. Texas has seen DJ Augustine and Joseph leave early as point guards and everyone thought it was a bad move for them, especially Texas coaches. Kabongo may be getting held back by the coaches to keep him there another year like how North Carlina id doing Macadoo and Hairston. Those two guys would have played 35 minutes a game for any other school in the country. Early on they couldn't sniff the floor. Thad Matta does it every year, BJ Mullens ( no. 1 recruit 6th man), Deqaun Cook (explosive potential scorer off bench) and it didn't work. Deshaun Thomas (6th man) did work. I haven't seen much of Kabongo this year but he always seemed like a hard worker who has drive and ability and will get better. I say he should stay in school but come out anyway, it's a weak pg draft and he will never be a top 6 pick anyway so if you get a 1rst round guarantee then go.
Barkley couldn't cut it either.
I'll buy it, he should learn from Barkley and stay in school until he's ready to make the jump. Barkley was a really promising player, but everyone knew he wasn't ready for the pros when he came out.
I do NOT like Kabongo, but I LOVE this comparison.
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If he stays in the draft he probably is Erick Barkley. Good one.
The only think Kabongo has similar to Rondo is speed,frame,and a broken jumpshot.
Rondo's IQ,defense,rebounding,ballhandling,leaping ability,passing,running a team is totally different from Kabongo when he was a freshman.
Its clear to anyone that watched Texas this year that Myck needs probably 2 more years. 1. to improve decision making 2. to improve his shot 3. to improve change of speed.
Ive heard he has really good work ethic and wants to learn so if he stays i could see him being drafted in the 1st round in 2 years.
39.1 FG% 31.6 3FG% 68 FT%: 9.6ppg 3rpg 5.2apg 1.3spg 3tpg
- Misses too many layups
- Penetrates well and gets fouled a lot
- FT% needs to be at least mid 70%
- Needs to get stronger
- 5.2apg is impressive considering the Texas team, their big men had the hiccups on close baskets
Kabongo is way to raw to be coming out this year...but he has the making of a leader and his command was pretty impressive for a freshman....it irks me to see guys with his kind of potential go to the league and have a very hard time adjusting....going from team to team and eventually falling out of the radar.....
"If he stays in the draft he probably is Erick Barkley. Good one."-Aran
I know it may be too far fetched for you, but I have a knack for comparing certain prospects Aran. I would LOVE and be honored for you to take some of my guys into consideration. I have sent you a list approximately 2-3months ago via email.
"Do you own NBA 2k12 for xbox? If so, I have BOTH of those teams mentioned (2000 Cincy, 1999 SJU) available for download on xbox live. I have over 200 + classic college teams ready to upload. Hit me up to request ANY of your favorite squads from 1990 to the present. Gamertag: Twok10guru"-twok11guru
I do not own neither one becuase I HATE both with a PASSION. I only will play NBA LIVE/ELITE on PS3. I APOLOGIZE if you feel disrespected, but I am set in my ways.
"Kabongo is way to raw to be coming out this year...but he has the making of a leader and his command was pretty impressive for a freshman....it irks me to see guys with his kind of potential go to the league and have a very hard time adjusting....going from team to team and eventually falling out of the radar....."-YurpleHazE
I say the same thing about Sebastian Telfair every year or so and shake my head.
I don't agree with that Barkely comparison. Barkely was not the playmaker that Kabongo was. He also didn't have the quickness. Maybe his isn't on TJ Ford of Rajon Rondo level, but he isn't on Barkelys level either (Not saying Barkely wasn't incredibly quick). I don't think that Kabongo will ever reach his level of potential but it is way higher than Barkely. Haven't you guys ever watched Barkely play?
Barkely played sooo aggressive, along with the rest of that St. John's team. Kabongo is quite the opposite.
Just got done watching the #2 Duke vs #8 St.Johns game dated 1/24/99 (On youtube if you care to watch)
Barkley is better than Kabongo when they were both freshmen, Barkley had wayyyyyyy more poise than Kabongo, had a higher IQ,played better defense,took better care of the ball,and was a better scorer now i'm not saying Kabongo can't be better than Barkley because Kabongo has that speed that you just cant teach that Barkley didn't have.
But Barkley was a better freshman than Kabongo was.
I cannot see how there is quite a few disagreements on the Barkley comparison, while there were so many agreements to the Rondo comparison.
This sh*t is a MOCKERY!
"Its clear to anyone that watched Texas this year that Myck needs probably 2 more years. 1. to improve decision making 2. to improve his shot 3. to improve change of speed.
Ive heard he has really good work ethic and wants to learn so if he stays i could see him being drafted in the 1st round in 2 years."-M.Garvey
I just may learn to like him if he stays all 4 years ala Nolan Smith, who I hated coming into college and now likes because he is INTELLIGENT from the PG position under Coach Wojo.
I just don't see the Barkley comparisons, Kabongo's game is all about Speed,Quickness and Flash.
Barkley's game was more Attacking angles,crafty ballhandling,poise,change of pace.
Maybe they compare to how they might not stick in the league that long, but as far as game style I don't see it.
Neither player is a freak like Rondo though. They are similar size and not great shooters. He is closer to Barkley than Rondo. I do think Myck will be better than Barrkley too. Myck will last longer but don't see superstar allstar in his future.
Barkley and Kabongo are similar, but Kabongo is more of a pure PG than Barkley, who was much more likely to look for his own shot. Barkley was also a bigger guy, though Kabongo has time to fill out. I think Kabongo is raw, but he does have some potential as a poor mans Rondo. Kabongo is athletic, a natural pure point, quick, and he has the length and lateral quickness to be a big threat denying dribble drive penetration and getting steals. He cant finish around the basket like Rondo can/could, Rondo is a big time finisher for someone with his thin frame and thats because he's smart around the basket and his length and athleticism are both elite. Kabongo is a very good athlete, but he's not Rondo's caliber. Kabongo cant shoot either, he really needs a better shot. Its not good at all. Kabongo needs time man, he isnt ready to lead an NBA team, but he has leadership qualities for a young guard, seems to be outspoken and smart. He just needs time, strength, and to work on his jumper before he's more ready. I like the upside though.
I am just surprised Aran spoke. That's #Love