Is a PG I predicted would go to Duke, and yes it would be pretty much either he or Kabongo. Personally, you Duke people are spoiled man! Jeez, wishing worse prospects commit just so you can scoop up the better ones. Also, I'm your father, I did mention Mike Gbinije, but I do not find he and Dawkins to be the type of talent on the wing you have in Kyle Singler, but than again there are not many who are. My point though, is that Duke will go back to being kind of a smaller team, and potentially could be quite weak up front. I think Lance Thomas and Brian Zoubek, while not the most skilled basketball players, provided Duke with a toughness they had not had since their last championship. They reloaded with some great guards and are of course hopeful of the improvement of the brothers Plumlee, especially Mason, but after this year, they lose potentially 4 top notch players (2 to graduation, 2 to the draft). Now, I know you seem to be highly optimistic about their line-up, but that wing situation I think is a gigantic drop-off come next year. Here is what the Duke line-up should potentially look like come 2011-12:
PG Quinn Cook, Seth Curry, Tyler Thornton
SG Austin Rivers (is he 6'5? I do not know, but I am guessing he should play 2), Andre Dawkins, Seth Curry
SF Mike Gbinije, Andre Dawkins, Austin Rivers
PF Ryan Kelly, Josh Hairston, Miles Plumlee
C Miles Plumlee, Marshall Plumlee
Looking at that line-up, possibly add Mason if he does not declare, they are still a top notch team, but are they the favorites come 2012? I do not know, but it is doubtful. I just see a Riverscentric team that could be set up for an upset. I mean, the thing with Duke is, they always act like a prospect is theres for the taking, be humble about it! Yes, you have a great coach and a fantastic program he has built, but that does not mean everyone is just going to go to your school for the heck of it. If you had Kabongo and Rivers, that would be a great back court, but I still think the wing would need to be addressed, and the front court is starting to look slightly anemic. One thing I did notice however, was that with that roster, it does appear that Duke may indeed have some scholarships available. If so, I would definitely go after wings. But, lets put it this way, maybe my argument about Myck Kabongo going to Duke is more about my wanting him to go somewhere else. Duke has gotten enough luck the past couple of years and I for one would love for it to be someone elses turn. Also, Quentin, and other people that quote people (if you do this already than it does not apply to you), when quoting someone, use these things "". They are called quotation marks. They are suggesting you are quoting someone rather than saying it yourself (or in some cases, quoting yourself). It also helps if you maybe use the persons name who gave the quote, though it is alright if you prefer generally anonymity. But, for someone who would like to go to into the field of basketball journalism, it would be a helpful gesture and a good habit to start using.
Mikey V, I didn't mean to come off as arrogant at all. My main issue with Cook, and it isn't a big one, is that he seems like he has been holding off for a Carolina offer. I just hope he doesn't feel like he is settling for Duke while his heart is somewhere else. Hopefully not getting an offer will motivate him to light up Carolina for four years. The thing was I just got excited about the prospects of Kabongo when it looked like Cook may have been looking elsewhere.
I highly doubt that Duke will be the favorites in 2012, but I think they will have a shot. I hate looking ahead that much, I'm very excited about this year.
In terms of personnel, I know that draft boards have Mason Plumlee going quite high this year, but I just don't see it. I think he is being very overrated by scouts. He has a lot of potential, but he isn't even close to realizing it. Also, I think the chance to play with his younger brother will be a big pull to stay for his Junior year. That way Duke would have all three Plumlee brothers for one year.
I think the lineup will be somewhat different from the one you posted. First of all, I highly doubt that Curry is kept out of the starting lineup and the same goes for Dawkins. I don't think MG will start as a freshman. Especially since Rivers and Curry have some combo capabilities, I think we could see a lineup of:
As I said, supposedly Rivers is 6'5 in socks now, so I guess he'll be listed at 6'6 and will play the SF. Although kids grossly exaggerate their heights all the time, so you never know. But that lineup would use a sort of point guard by committee approach, similar to the one they used last year. I don't think this is a sure fire Championship team by any means, but I think they will be very good. In terms of Dawkins, he is not a Singler, but I think he can be very good. He is a knock down shooter and a good athlete. This team would most likely be one of Duke's best 3-point shooting teams of all time, as Dawkins, Curry and Rivers are all outstanding shooters.
But back to Cook/Kabongo. I just think this is a very interesting situation. Kabongo would have likely committed to if we had had room for him and Cook would have been equally as likely to commit to UNC had Roy offered. However, it seems like they might both end up at the opposite school.
Dude, I was not referring to you in particular by any means, just a general gripe with Duke fans. As someone who goes to a school that has had a hard time consistently getting recruits, I have a hard time hearing other schools &$#%#&@! about not getting one McDonalds All-American over another, and Duke fans seem to do that constantly. But no, I was not going at you at all. Mr. Knick on the other hand tends to get a tad overboard, but I guess that is his deal :). I had no idea Rivers was that tall, but yeah, maybe he could be tall enough to play wing, though as I expressed before, that is not where I would want him to play. I also think Seth Curry would likely be the starter, but was waiting for the onslaught of "He's not a point guard he's a shooting guard" from people, though at his size, he should probably get used to playing point, worked for Stephen. I really do not know about the Cook situation, guess I am slightly surprised Roy hasn't offered, but while I have heard people here say Cook really wants to play for UNC, I have not heard it really anywhere else and just heard he was favoring Duke/UCLA. But, I guess I just am kind of one of those anti-Duke people anyway, lol. I have always favored UNC for sure, and I tend to want them to get the better recruits, and Kabongo would be it to me. I feel he would fit in quite well for the Heels, and with PJ Hairston and Reggie Bullock (I think he comes back), and pencil in McAdoo at 4, they would have a lot of scoring going on. Duke has had an embarassment of riches over the years, and that will more than likely maintain, but the one thing Cook likely gets you is a few years more than Kabongo, who could probably be one and done as well as Rivers. Duke usually just reloads, but it is never a sure thing. Coach K has done a really good job at getting those talents that usually tend to need a few years of seasoning, Kyle Singler and Nolan Smith fit that perfectly, as did Scheyer. Rivers is a great talent, he should definitely be a one and done, and Kabongo might be as well. So, Cook might not be the type of player that Myck Kabongo is in his first year, but chances are, as a small PG, he may well be a 4 year guy for Duke, and teams that have those type of guys have won championships far more times than teams led by one and done players. So, with Myck Kabongo, I would say, you may be getting a super exciting back court for a year, but I would still think they were definitely a strong (and more than likely seasoned) wing player away from taking down the nets in March 2012.