my top 50 nba players
my top 50 players. Im leaving ming and brandon roy out becasue i dont think we can accurately rank them as of now.
just missed: ray allen, stephen jackson, jason kidd, devin harris, john wall, michael beasley, andrea barganni, marc gasol, elton brand
Zbo doesnt belong in the top 20 and neither does Joe Johnson . Reke has been bad this year, no way he should be top 35 for me
KLove at 18 is a bit high for me. Other than that, quality list.
id rather have everyone from 41 thru 50 than billups
Dirk is not the 4th best player in the league. Manu and Monta are also underrated.
durant at 8 at too low imo id have him 3 behind kobe and lebron i cant stand lebron put im not one of those haters who dont admit how good he is ive also got d rose in front of cp3 and dwill now as the best pg in the league
Not too bad of a list.
How do people rank their top 50 players? Based on stats, wins/team success, ability, overall impact or what?
Is usually a combination of those things. Circumstance even plays a part, as does statistical output, overall skill set, defensive ability and just the elements that lead to winning basketball. At this time, I feel that LeBron has overtaken Kobe as the best player in the league, though Kobe may still have a superior basketball team. I will make a list later, I usually start a list at the beginning of the year, but every year their are major changes that come down. My suggestion for making a list is to start in a smaller forum, maybe breaking it down by position, than kind of draft from their. It is difficult, and no one will have theirs be the same. It is kind of opinion backed up by what may or may not be facts. Nonetheless, I liked both top 50's, though their were some players I felt were ranked too high or too low. Knicksboy ranked Andrew Bogut far too high, but with LL, I am not sure Kevin/Z-Bo and Dirk are not ranked far too high as well. Randolph vs Love is a tough one in my mind, Z-Bo is a more proven low post scorer, their rebounding is similar, though Kevin's numbers deem it otherwise. Zach's team is better, but it is difficult to say Kevin would be better than Zach or vice versa if they switched places. Zach put up worse numbers in a similar position to Kevin in Portland, but has he not improved greatly as a player? These are just some of the questions you should be thinking about in your rankings, and also you should maybe think about the fact that both of them are below average defenders.
One guy I feel is too low on both lists is Carlos Boozer. In my mind, Boozer should more than likely be ranked ahead of both Randolph and Love. You can say that Booz is more of a second banana than either of them, but would both of them not be better as second bananas as well? For a while, Utah seemed more like Boozer's team than even Deron William's, and while Utah is still a good team, I feel they were much stronger with Boozer rather than Al Jefferson. Boozer's work on the Bulls has been overshadowed by Derrick Rose MVP talk, and while it is definitely Rose's team, Boozer has been huge in the Bull's turnaround too the upper echelon of the East. To me, Timmy, Garnett and Boozer still are better players than Love, Z-Bo and LaMarcus. I have a hard time saying that you switch all three into different situations that the Spurs, Celtics and Bulls get better. Aldridge to me is the closest to that group and has really come into his own. But, those 6 guys I would rank differently, though still behind Dirk, Gasol, Amare and possibly Chris Bosh. Blake Griffin has been beastly, but is he really better than some of these guys? In his rookie year compared to their rookie years, yes to every other than maybe Timmy, but right now? It is tough to say.
Wow i would love to meet the GM that takes Dirk, and Pau over Melo.
These days point guards grow on trees
The top players in the game are wing players like your first 3 but D Howard is the exception
Stat, Melo KD need to be higher
Just a couple things that stick out
Johnson is not the 17th best player, Love isn't the 18th, Odom isn't the 32nd ( All Too High)
Curry, Gordon, Boozer and Granger are too low to me.
Billups and Brook Lopez aren't in the top 50
1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Durant
5. Dwight Howard
6. Dirk Nowitzki
7. Derrick Rose
8. Deron Williams
9. Chris Paul
10. Carmelo Anthony
11. Pau Gasol
12. Amare Stoudemire
13. Russell Westbrook
14. Tim Duncan
15. Paul Pierce
16. Manu Ginobili
17. Chris Bosh
18. Joe Johnson
19. Rajon Rondo.
20. Kevin Garnett
21. Steve Nash
22. Carlos Boozer
23. Tony Parker
24. LaMarcus Aldridge
25. Blake Griffin
26. Al Horford
27. Zach Randolph
28. Monta Ellis
29. Kevin Love
30. Rudy Gay
31. Josh Smith
32. Danny Granger
33. Andre Iguodala
34. Andrew Bogut
35. Lamar Odom
36. Paul Millsap
37. Eric Gordon
38. Al Jefferson
39. Chauncey Billups
40. Luis Scola
41. Stephen Curry
42. Tyreke Evans
43. Joakim Noah
44. David West
45. Ray Allen
46. John Wall
47. Kevin Martin
48. Stephen Jackson
49. Raymond Felton
50. Gerald Wallace
Next 10 By Position: Devin Harris, Andre Miller, OJ Mayo, Jason Richardson, Luol Deng, Michael Beasley, Elton Brand, David Lee, Nene, Andrew Bynum
Possible movers up in the near future: Marc Gasol, Jrue Holliday, Wesley Matthews, DeMarcus Cousins, Brandon Jennings, Brook Lopez, Wilson Chandler, Andrea Bargnani (as soon as he becomes a second banana, because his defense/rebounding is atrocious), DeMar DeRozan, Darren Collison. Others slightly further away: Derrick Favors, Evan Turner, Serge Ibaka, Landry Fields, Greg Monroe, DeJuan Blair, George Hill, Nicolas Batum, Ty Lawson, Roy Hibbert
Just a rough list I compiled ranking who I feel are the best players in the NBA and a few names on the cusp as well as some who may lay claim soon enough.
Carlos Boozer is 24th in the NBA in scoring, 10th in rebounding, 8th in FG % , I think he's higher than #33.
But I see what you are saying. That is why I did my own, while some picks I definitely agree with my counterpart ll, I differ on some aspects of who the flat out better players are. Even with my boy LA burning Carlos last night, LaMarcus still lacks Carlos' consistency and toughness on the boards. I felt like Carlos was ranked very low on both of these lists. It is difficult to make a top 50 though, a lot of things come into account. If Boozer had not been injured at the beginning of the year, he would have been a lock for the All-Star game. Taller guys can get to him, but he is so strong and incredibly hard to defend in the low post. When I have seen him play this year, he looks as good as ever.
hey mikeyvthedon, i like your list but one thing i wanted to point out is that the ducks are going down on thursday. UC!...LA!
Best list I've seen so far.
Our only loss at Matt Court LL! I do hope we continue our winning ways and take down your Bruins, but UCLA has been playing fantastic ball lately. Your message also made me think that I completely forgot about my boy Aaron Brooks, who when healthy may very well crack the top 50. Really hope Aaron either gets his PT back or gets his chance to shine on another team. Lowry has been solid, but Brooks is waterbug quick and he can be such an explosive scorer. His shooting has been WAY off from the field thus far, but he is shooting 96% from the FT line. The kid is a baller, really bummed he has not continued his MIP ways thus far in the season.
IndianaBasketball, thanks man. I appreciate the comment, and I hope you know that some of the stuff you said about Eric Gordon made me really rethink things about my analysis of players. Well, thanks to Knicksboy for starting this, LL for making a great list and to people for commenting and giving their feedback. I needed to make a new player rankings, I usually make a top 100 before the season, but the last thing I did was a top 10 by position I believe. If you saw that list, it has changed pretty drastically as the season has progressed. The league is constantly changing and players roles are constantly changing for a variety of reasons. A couple years ago, you would never see a list of top PG's without Baron Davis or Gilbert Arenas, but times change and players evolve or decline.
By the way, 28 Western Conference Players compared to 22 Eastern Conference. However, the top 30 is slanted 19-11 in favor of the West, which might be some explanation of the difficulty in choosing All-Stars in the Western Conference. Also 8 players I would classify as SF's, 10 SG's, 5 C's, 11 PG's and 16 PF's! PF seems to be the deepest position in the league, another reason why the All-Star choices were so incredibly difficult. More to come I am sure, always love making lists and have done so for a long time :)
Yeah, quality list there mike.