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My pre-season picks for M.I.P candidates! AND just players who I think will show significant improvement statistically

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My pre-season picks for M.I.P candidates! AND just players who I think will show significant improvement statistically

MIP Candidate players for the upcoming season AND/OR players primed for a BREAKOUT YEAR!

Anthony Randolph- if this guy can stay healthy and get consistent minutes, I can totally see him average around 15 points and a little less than 10 rebounds and around 2 blocks a game. Love his potential, too bad the warriors are trying to trade him; can be a 20 10 5 player someday IMO.. IF he gets his act together and matures.

Toney Douglas- assuming he takes over the starting role Douglas will produce some decent numbers. Was a defensive stopper for the Knick's last season; pretty good shooter but an average passer.. I expect his numbers to be significantly .. as a New Yorker and Knick fan I'm hoping for 12 to 15 points and 4 to 5 assists per game.

Stephen Curry- as good as a rookie year he had he still can win this award IMO. Started off the year pretty slow but finished the 2nd half of the year as arguably the top rookie and one of the leagues best point guards.. MY FAVORITE to win M.I.P next year and should average around 20 ppg 8 apg 40% or higher from 3 and more than 2 steals per game. I also expect the warriors to be a better team next year and win around 10 more games than last year

Kevin Love- if he becomes a consistent starter will average a double double. Good shooter and passer his position which can only boost the stats, about the team record.. dont expect much of a change to his teams record so his chances aren't all that great of winning MIP

Javale McGee- very long and athletic... is the only center on the wizards roster worth giving minutes to at Center.. with a big boost in minutes.. he will become an outstanding fantasy pick up due to his rebounding and shot blocking... not expecting him to average any more than 10 ppg, but what I do expect is numbers near double digits and more than 2 blocks a game... can someday lead the league in shotblocking..

Serge Ibaka- see Javale McGee.. but with better offensive ability! If he becomes a starter will challenge for the top honors of MIP! 12 8 and 2 seems realistic for Ibaka if he can become a starter next year.

Earl Clark- a dark horse to become a productive player this early into his career. Grant Hill is already what... 38 years old and they need to start playing him so much and giving Clark some burn.. now Clark isn't a very skilled shooter, but he does have excellent point forward ability.. similar to grant hill in a sense in that aspect of being a point forward... he may not get looks as MIP be i do expect him to be a productive player his 2nd season to the tune of around 8 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and maybe 1 block per game. Can someday blossom into a very good all around player but now he is very raw.. he's lucky he can be under Hill's guidance especially since they have similar games.

Rodrique Beaubois - Kidds long term replacement at point guard... I believe at some point in the season he will surpass Kidd as the teams starting 1. A smaller, quicker version of Gilbert Arenas... excellent scoring skills, great range, very athletic and great speed.. won't be surprised to see him average around 14 to 16 ppg and around 3 apg. Another favorite to win MIP.

Jerryd Bayless- very talented but stuck behind andre miller... still, I can see him upping his PPG to 13-15 points a game if he gets to play 25 plus minutes.

Jordan Farmar- LETS GO LAKERS GAME 7!!! anyways.. lol.. hopefully farmar will resign. he has been waiting in the wings behind fisher his whole career, while fisher may still be a starter the next season (or 2) Farmar will gradually get more and more minutes until he finally becomes the teams starting PG... a true point guard with good athleticism and great shooting skills. 10 and 5 doesn't seem to far fetched for Farmar next season. Can be a 15 and 7 player as a starter and still the Lakers would still be a similar team because of Farmars shooting ability.

Honorable mention (with MY projected stats for them next year)
Yi Jianlian- 15 ppg 7 rpg 1bpg
Roy Hibbert- 13 ppg 10 rpg 2 bpg
Ersan Ilyasova- 12 ppg 6 rpg
Michael Beasley- 18 ppg 8 rpg
Austin Daye- 10 ppg 40% 3pt
Glen aka Big Baby aka Saliva Monster Davis- 12 ppg 6 rpg

probably missing some MIP candidates as well as players primed to have "break out" years.. but my class just ended so ending it here! lol, anyone I missed? agree, disgreee?


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I like some of the players

I like some of the players you have on here but

Let's wait till we get a little closer to the season.

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yeah im pretty sure if i wait

yeah im pretty sure if i wait until a little closer to the season my picks or post wouldnt change.

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Can we put Roy Hibbert in

Can we put Roy Hibbert in honorable mention as well, I think he will get more looks this year and be more productive.

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Paul Millsap if Carlos Boozer

Paul Millsap if Carlos Boozer leaves.

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Billy "Sky" Walker

I wouldn't count Bill Walker out. Not that he should be a front runner for the MIP award but this guy has some serious potential to surprise a lot of people.

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It is so funny that for like

It is so funny that for like half these guys you say "only if they get minutes," well there is a reason they play the minutes that they do. These are mostly limited and average players on primarily bad teams. Mike James averaged 20 points per game on an awful team, and it didn't make him good. Looking back, how do you like the contract that season got him?

Anthony Randolph is a big dummy. He flashed potential as a rookie and did not improve. He is still a twig and still lacking any concept of how to play. Show me the team where he averages 20-10-5 and I'll show you a team with a really good chance to get the #1 pick in the next draft.

Steph Curry. Clownish system producing clownish numbers that mean nothing if the team is as bad as it was last year. The problem is that if they play a more traditional style the fact that he can't guard anyone will really come out.

Kevin Love, lose weight and at least try to guard someone. I'm sorry, you can't hope for consistent minutes from a guy who loses a starting spot to Darko. Can he put up numbers? Yes. Wins? No.

Serge Ibaka and JaVale McGee. Take a look at the rosters of LA and Boston and name me one big man on either team who resembles either one of those two. Are you interested in seeing a team improve or find a fantasy team sleeper?

Clark is on a good team, and if they are going to remain a good team by re-upping Amare (or working a sign-and-trade for a comparable talent) there won't be a spot for Clark. He has some talent, but no rookie is going to crack the back of a rotation on a good team by dogging it. If he learns to go hard, he has a chance. If not, he'll be moved to a bad team that hopes to get something out of him.

Beaubois is more like the next JET not Kidd.

Bayless isn't going to get more minutes. He isn't a true point and not going to get much run at the 2 in Portland. Can he go to a bad team like the Knicks and do what Nate Robinson did there? Yes. Would he be nothing more than the spot player like Nate Robinson has been on a contender? Yes.

Jordan Farmar? What? I just hope Farmar tithes Kobe 25 percent of whatever free agent contract he signs this summer. He just isn't very good.

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I like your list a lot, but

I like your list a lot, but 2nd year players very rarely get the M.I.P award. The league usually saves that award for players who've played a little while and then made a strong improvement.

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I agree about Walker showing

I agree about Walker showing improvement next year, probably not winning MIP though. But reports are saying he has already lost 10-15 pounds, so I expect a good season from him.

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I like your list but this

I like your list but this draft and off season could determine if a lot of these guys have a chance to do that. I would love to see Beasley go to another team which should strengten his MIP status.

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Agreed.

The reports about his lost weight are a very good sign. Now that he's over a year removed from having knee surgery, carrying around less weight can only mean more good things for his knees.

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My Pick

How about Danilo Gallinari I think his scoring, rebounding, 3's and efficiency will be up plus if the Knicks make the playoffs and he's top 3 scoring on the team then the award is his

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I don't know how receptive

I don't know how receptive you guys will be about my pick, but I think Amir Johnson could be a legit MIP canidate.

Last year at only 22 he finally showed some signs of life averaging 6.2 ppg and 4.8 rpg in only about 17 minutes. The Raptors need toughness and rebounding on the block and I think Johnson is only going to step up his game even more, especially with Bosh most likely gone. I think he is a longshot, but I think he'll put up something around 12 ppg 8.5 rpg and 2 bpg and whether he is a canidate for MIP next year I think he's going to improve significantly next season. He is younger than a handful of players in this draft and he looks to be turning the corner from a bust to a guy with immense upside.

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Good list, Anthony Randolph

Good list, Anthony Randolph came to mind when I read the headline. He's got huge potential, especially if he gets traded. It's a shame Nellie doesn't give him the minutes he deserves.

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its not exactly a pre-season

its not exactly a pre-season pick if its made in the post-season...

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I feel DeMar DeRozan will

I feel DeMar DeRozan will show significant improvement.

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Bothteamsplayedhard..

first off, maybe if you think about it... the reason they don't get that many minutes is because they are either 2nd or 3rd year guys? Maybe? Yeah.. it has nothing to do with them being average, they just need time and thats what this post is about.. their TIME to get a chance to produce..Comparing Mike James statistically, I just didn't understand.. the guy was like 35 when he got those numbers, he was a veteran playing on a bad team so that come out of nowhere...

I said Anthony Randolph has the potential to average 20 10 and 5, but its all just potential I didn't make a statement he was going to get that, ever. I do agree if ever he did it would be on an awful team I'll give you that...

Stephen Curry-clownish number's in a clownish system? Really.. we'll see, I guess any player who gets good stat's on a bad team is just a "fake" good player right? David Lee wasn't an all star, right? I mean, the Knick's were dirt awful last year... Anyways, Curry is a great young player and I know many people with agree with that statement is to yours where he is just good because he's on a bad team.. KEEP IN MIND... having a ball hog like Monta on your team it can be hard to be as productive as a PG but Curry still had a stellar 2nd half rookie season.

Ibaka and McGee... what are you talking? I don't understand all these random players you compare these guys to.. this post is about players and how they can/will improve in the upcoming season.. not once did I compare them to LA or Boston's big men or say they will get to the finals because of the play of Ibaka or Mcgee... so what the hell are you talking about .. again...

I never said Beaubois was the next Kidd, I said he was Kidds long term replacement at point guard..

Bayless is a scoring point guard.. NOT a true point guard, just like you said.. but just because he isn't a true point guard doesn't mean he can get meaningful minutes and produce.. there are and have been A LOT of "not true" point guards who have had nice careers... and IMO, the reason Robinson doesn't get as much burn: Rondo is playing like the best PG in basketball right now leading his team to the finals, so why would Robinson (or any decent back up PG) get any meaningful playing time. Now put Robinson as the back up for the Lakers and I guarantee you he would be getting way more minutes than he does in Boston. Point is, just because Bayless isn't a true point guard doesnt mean he cant play a meaningful role on a good team

and Jordan Farmar is very good? He isn't having the best finals series, but I mean, that Celtic defense is pretty good. And by pretty good I mean their defense is beast which would make it hard for anyone (even Kobe) to struggle. Farmar isn't very good? Please.. he is only the back up point guard to a potential world champion basketball team. and on that note...

LETS GO LAKERS

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oh and knicksboy that wasnt

oh and knicksboy that wasnt me who negated points.. i dont do that unless i give a legit reason unlike some who just negate points and leave

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jrdafilapino2, How dare I

jrdafilapino2, How dare I compare players and teams to those who win? Am I missing something? How dare I value defense, intelligence, and physical strength when looking at players. Look, I understand numbers as well as anyone, but most people don't seem to understand that they are a result of systems, styles, fits, and most importantly the goal of winning a game. Most of the players on your list were on 20-30 win teams. You need to weight the fact that these guys are getting their numbers as their teams are getting their butts kicked. The NBA has a long list of really average players putting up monster numbers, and subsequently receiving huge contracts, for numbers on losing teams: Mike James, Larry Hughes, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Ricky Davis, Stephon Marbury, Kevin Martin, etc. So when you say so-and-so can put up X numbers if he just gets the minutes, it will be another Ricky Davis or Mike James stat line. Geez, look at the Warriors. It did not matter which 7 of the 20 players they had were playing on a given night. It was the same act, 100-110 points scores and if the opposing team was at all interested 120 points given up. I could care less whether it was Anthony Randolph or Anthony Tolliver. And if you want to blame Monta Ellis for the woes, explain why Baron Davis and Stack Jack were able to win with him.

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I think those are all solid

I think those are all solid picks for players who can make a big leap next year as far as their careers. I'm not quite sure why Kevin Love is on there I think he would have to have an absolute monster season to win the award, just because he played pretty well last year.

I think Randolph will break out this year, it's time he was given minutes, I hope his coach sees that.

I also like Bayless I think he needs to be in the starting lineup, he is a better player than Andre Miller right now imo. He can score his ass off, and if he can't run the point put

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I think those are all solid

I think those are all solid picks for players who can make a big leap next year as far as their careers. I'm not quite sure why Kevin Love is on there I think he would have to have an absolute monster season to win the award, just because he played pretty well last year.

I think Randolph will break out this year, it's time he was given minutes, I hope his coach sees that.

I also like Bayless I think he needs to be in the starting lineup, he is a better player than Andre Miller right now imo. He can score his ass off, and if he can't run the point put Roy and the 1.

I don't know why BothTeams is down on every player on this list, makes know sense to me. These are a few of the better young talents in the league like it or not. If these players can't win then who is a player that can?

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How about Sonny Weems? He put

How about Sonny Weems? He put up some good numbers near the end of the season and he's very athletic. He and DeRozan can form one of the league's most athletic backcourts

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Yes, this post was primarily

Yes, this post was primarily about player's on teams with bad records. In that regard, give me a MIP candidate, or even a player you expect to have much better seasons next year, on a GOOD 50 team. Heck, if all the players I listed were on a team like the Lakers, Magic, Cavaliers, Boston... they would STILL be on my list. this thread is on most improved PLAYER's... which means.. individual accomplishments, not what their team did but what that individual did.. look at some of the past 10 winners of the MIP. Arenas on the Warriors, Zach Randolph on the Blazers, ALL STAR danny granger on a bad pacer team... this post is about MOST IMPROVED PLAYER.. if you wanna talk about these guys producing on a good team then yes, you would have MANY really great points.. but are in the wrong thread my fried.. most improved PLAYER.. they don't always have to be on a good team (perfect example: DANNY GRANGER) so I am not in the wrong when stating a player like Stephen Curry, Kevin Love, Anthony Randolph, ETC can win the MIP award even when producing big time numbers on a non play off team. and believe me, I understand numbers quite well myself, but we'll have to save that for another thread. this is MIP, not players who are have good numbers because they play on a bad team. if u wanna talk about that... start a thread on it, because as of now ur in the wrong thread.

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Bothteamsplayedhard..

but hey you made some really good points so I'll applaud you on that! but like i said, this is a MIP thread... of course I would value a players defense, intelligence, all the things you stated, and if u wanna discuss that we can make a separate thread.. and about average players putting up big time numbers.. come on.. bad teams have to start somewhere right? for example..Garnett was a great player on a struggling wolves team, look what he did for the franchise. from the time they were bad to when they were good he always put up similar stats... so u cant always say just because a player who puts up big numbers on a bad team is just a product of a bad team. suggestion: NEW THREAD! ill start it but yeah +1 on ur really good points

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Not sure about MIP but I

Not sure about MIP but I think Chris Paul will comeback this year and remind us why people used to call him the best PG in the game.

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Ilyasova going to have to do

Ilyasova going to have to do much better than 12 PPG and 6 RPG if he wants consideration for MIP. Considering he averaged 10.4 PPG and 6.4 RPG in just 23 minutes per game this past season....

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