The Lakers need to be bad without tanking. They need to pull off moves that smaller market teams have been doing for the last few years to get young players. The Lakers short minded thinking is catching up with them now.
Somewhere after the Pau trade many years ago the Lakers stopped drafting young players and looked to trade draft picks for Vets to fill holes in the roster. The playing with fire until you get burned. So now we're looking at a Old, Cap Out team that just lost a top 5 superstar. And with their all time great in the golden years with a hurt leg.
Lakers Salary for 2014 - 79.8 Million
Players up for amnesty - Pau, Kobe, MWP, Blake and Nash
This should all about building for 2015 free agent class. Cause the great 2014 class is of one ( Bron James ) and he is not coming to save the Lakers.
The most important player on the Lakers right now is Pau Gasol. He's moving back to where he should have been always the 5 spot and can still be a top 5-7 big man in the league for the next 3-5 years. That means the Lakers are not amnestying Pau, or trading him for that matter. He's someone the Lakers should look to resign in 2014 at a much lower rate. Kobe is someone that should look to come back slowly, maybe the last 20 games of the season just to get a feel for 2015. Nash is someone the Lakers should look to trade to a team looking for that Vet to push them to a title. Getting a 1st round pick would be the best thing for both party's. MWP should be the one getting the amnesty saving the Lakers a 15 to 20 million dollar cap tax bill. With all this happen the Lakers looking like a 25 win team.
Like we talked about trading Nash should be done. No reason to keep a 39 year old PG making 9 million on a non playoff team. But the Lakers should take a page out of smaller market teams and trade expiring contracts for Picks and Bad contracts of other teams that come off the books in 2015. The teams view should be to use 2014's cap space and turn them into picks. That way you go into the 2015 season with some young talent, Kobe and Pau and bad contracts coming of the books. Being able in the summer of 2015 to sign the young studs.
Dream case for the Lakers would be to end up with two lotto picks in the 2014 draft. Theirs and maybe a lotto pick from a team looking to clear cap space. They could also look into buying a late first from someone. With the new CBA draft picks are gold. Cheap labor. Lakers forgot how they got Kobe, Magic, Coop, Scott, Worthy and Fisher. They drafted them.
This year will most likely be bad as well, but if the Lakers fallow the plan they'll have some nice young players mixed in with Kobe and Pau. Don't think they'll field anything near a playoff team and the Lakers pick in 2015 is only top 5 projected. So most likely it will be sent to the Suns in the Nash trade. That's why its a must the Lakers get as many pick as possible in a deep 2014 draft. Lakers will play out the season with their eyes on having enough cap space to sign two max players to team up with the young talent and Vets of Kobe and Pau.
I'm a Laker fan and I don't have any clue where they are going. I've noticed there are many Lakers haters here lol
You aren't going to be able to sign two max players with Kobe and Pau both still on the roster. Even if Kobe sits out until Christmas the Lakers should still win at least 30 games.
I am also sick of Lakers posts so this is the last one I will be responding too until the season begins.
This was My Plan... What I think they should do.
I'm a Lakers fan too and think no one knows what they'll do next. I don't even think they know yet. But the next shoe to drop should tell us a lot about what their plan is for the next few years.
Salary cap for 2014-15 is 62.1 million. Let's say to sign Kobe and Pau to 9 million a year deals. Around what KG just got. That's 18 million you'd still have 44.1 million in cap space. Lets say they have two rookie deal on the roster. One at 4 million the other at 2 Million. That leaves 38.1 million left or TWO 19 million dollar deals.
They only have 5 mill committed for next summer. ( steve nash partially gauranteed), They should be able bring Kobe and pau back for around 35 mill combined( I'm guessing roughly 20-22 mill for Kobe and about 13-15 mill for pau). Kobe is still an elite player and I expect pau to bounce back. He missed 30 games last year and played hurt when he was out there but had off season surgery to alleviate the pain and should be rested. With Dwight gone, pau will be able to play center and have the post to himself in danttonis open offense. I think pau reestablishes himself as an all-star. Use rest of salary to build around them. No rebuilding as long as Kobe is still on roster, just reloading and trying to win now.
List of free agents who are either unrestricted or restricted but lakers could still possibly outbid for them: Eric Bledsoe, John wall( doubtful as wiz would surely match any offer similar to Paul George with Indy) Evan turner, Luol deng, Danny granger, Carmelo Anthony(early termination option), Zach randolph, Greg Monroe, Anderson verajao as well as other solid role players.
Just got to try and keep winning and adding pieces. Once Kobe is done, if the team wants to blow it up then, then well see.
A) By 2015 you can sign 2 max players but how many of those players will want to leave their teams and how many of those will actually make you championship material?
Lebron is one player that likely would make you a championship contender but I can't see him leaving Miami for LA. If he leaves Miami I believe he would go back to Cleveland.
Beyond Lebron the options are Carmelo Anthony, John Wall, Chris Bosh, and Wade. Are those guys who will make the Lakers a championship team? And are any of those guys max players? By 2015 Carmelo will be 31 years old. Wade would be 33-34. And Bosh would be around 30-31.
B) As long as Kobe Bryant is there his personality will dominate the locker room and the flow of how the team will play (specifically on offense). How many of those players would come to LA to defer to a 36 year old Kobe Bryant? Kobe is a guy who will struggle to let go of who he is as a player. I'm not sure it is in Kobe to do what Tim Duncan has done; which is step back and allow others to have more control over the team.
So in short; if the Lakers do not get Lebron I'm not sure signing 2 max players would really get you back to where you want to be.
i agree with most of your thought except kobe's personality. Anybody that comes their should be more than willing to defer to kobe as he will still be better than them anyway. unlike tim duncan kobe is still consistent. duncan even though he was 1st-team had a couple patches of bad shooting games throughout the season, partially because his aches from his many injuries make him have to defer. If kobe comes back from his injury unable to be his usual self then i say bring in a young free agent next year so kobe can defer at times but the problem with that is if kobe feels he cant play at the level he wants to, he will retire. His pride wont let him go on the court just to be above average he wants to be unstoppable.
if yall can get some talented power forwards this summer, and maybe reach out to jeff teague or monta ellis, with that and the key word( addition) of parting with howard, who would play uninterested if he didnt get his special amount of touches, yall will have a much better record this year. Yall still have a problem though with dantoni who coaches how he wants regardless of the players in front of his face. Either way pau back at center helps floor spacing.
Rest Kobe for the whole year.
Trade Gasol on the trade deadline for a 1st round pick and expiring contracts.
Trade Nash for another 1st round pick and expiring contract.
Finish the year with 25 wins or less.
Have 3 first round picks ( hopefully one top 6)
Trade all those picks for an upcoming star player. Paul George, John Wall yes I know their unrestricted free agents.
Let's say Lakers trade for John Wall and sign him for 18 mill
Try and get James or Carmelo in free agency 22 mill
Sign Kobe major pay cut 1 mil ahahaha
Sign Gasol for 1 mill hahah
Sign Cousins for 18 mill ahahah
Sign Kobe for 20 million a year? Are you joking? The Lakers would let Kobe walk if he wanted that much.
The max I could see both of them getting would be 19-20, FOR BOTH. Pau getting 10 and Kobe getting 9.
Sorry but I don't see Kobe Bryant taking a 70% pay cut...as bad as he wants to win he will still want the money he deserves as one of the 10 best players in the league.
kobe was still a top 5 player in the league last season. and you think he is 9 mill and worth less then pau? I have to assume you are trolling
Pau getting more then Kobe? Did you watch him play last year? Are YOU joking?
Lakers would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for Nash. He's often injured, and defend a tumbleweed and has an awful contract. No way do they get a 1st round pick in next years draft for him.
The Lakers actually traded vets that turned into the Magic (Gail Goodrich) and Byron Scott (Norm Nixon?). Not sure how they got Worthy.
Probably a trade. Then they traded Vlade Divac for Kobe on draft night.
The Lakers have had good drafts too, Michael Cooper at 60, Van Exel at 37, and D Fisher late too. But they have done most of their damage
in free agency and by trading veterans for draft picks.
I don't see LeBron going to the Lakers. I think they should go after Kevin Love. He is a super star and he played college ball at UCLA.
They will have to get creative. I don't see them buying a dynasty any time soon.
Pau goes and plays with his brother in Memphis (takes a pay cut just to get away from kobe).
Kobe demands a max extension. Almost Putting the team over the cap by himself.
Are currently between a rock and a hard place. They have an elderly team. Kobe is out. Superman left town. Steve Nash and Metta World Peace are barely starting lineup material anymore. They are holding bloated contracts that they have no way of getting rid of until 2014. They are completely screwed for the upcoming season, and by all rights, the team in the best position to tank the season and go for the Andrew Wiggins sweepstakes... Then they would have a TON of cap room to chase Lebron James in free agency in 2014 and build a dynasty around him. Just think about that for a second...Lebron AND Andrew Wiggins on the same team. That has the potential to be a better duo than Jordan/Pippen.
They are the LA Lakers. They've missed the playoffs exactly once since 1994 and only 4 times since 1960. This isn't a franchise that tolerates losing...and the fanbase is even more demanding. Lakers fans won't be OK with taking a year off, even if it does mean getting a top 3 pick in a draft class with at least 3 guaranteed all-stars in it.
So what's the plan? Your guess is as good as mine. But I can't see a way this team makes the playoffs next season in its current iteration.