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Gallo also plays decent

Gallo also plays decent defense and is one of the best defenders the knicks had last year don't listen to the media so much.

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BTPH Can you read? Like

BTPH

Can you read? Like honestly? Did I not say that Portland could offer the best deal?

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"And yes they can do better

"And yes they can do better than the Blazers, they can also take on a bad contract if they have to"

So funny. You can't argue with delusion, so I'll stop. Don't get too disappointed when Paul isn't on the Knicks.

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watever

watever the knicks have to do to get {cp3} they better do it

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portland is not going to give

portland is not going to give up oden, roy, or aldridge I cant imagine NO would want miller, camby or mathews at 7 million. obviously portland has a 547894 times better roster, but in terms of cheap young talent knicks are no worse.

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i think the blazers would

i think the blazers would trade oden or aldridge in a heart beat for chris paul

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"And yes they can do better

"And yes they can do better than the Blazers, they can also take on a bad contract if they have to"

I never said that.

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Who were the ball hogs on New

Who were the ball hogs on New York?

Harrington wasnt afraid to take shot but he shot a good 45% from the field.

You guys are gonna miss him as instant offense. off the bench.

Lee?
Sergio?
Duhon?

Are those guys ballhogs?

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You watch the Knicks at all?

You watch the Knicks at all? Harrington is the definition of a black hole ball hog. Guy wins u 5 games, loses you 15. Duhon, other than the pick and roll, was the most incompetent PG the league has seen in a very long time. Nate, Hughes and all the other scrubs that were in and out of our line up were chucks as well.

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I don't think were gonna miss

I don't think were gonna miss Harrington that much.

He had alot of bad games as a Knick last season. I think Amare will score more and I believe Gallinari and Chandler will get slight point increases.

Kelenna will be that heater off the bench.

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I have been a Knick fan for

I have been a Knick fan for over 15 years and Al Harrington is by far my least favorite Knick ever. Most frustrating and stupid player I have ever seen. Duhon and Jared Jeffries are a close 2nd btw. I'm just so glad we got rid of all these losers I dont even care if the Knicks get Paul, I'm just saying contrary to what you guys are saying they could put together a solid package for a trade.

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Duhon wasnt a chuck though,

Duhon wasnt a chuck though, hes a bad point guard but hes a good passer, and he doesnt have anything besides that.

Harrington is not a chucker, whether you like it or not the Knicks didnt have many player that can creat, and he created hes instant offense for them.

Nate, and Hughes didnt playu much so their basically irreelevent, Nate is kind of a chucker.

Just face it the Knicks lacked offensive creators which is a big weakness.

Gallenari actually shot a lower percentage than Harrington so why isnt he a chucker?

Your just making up those excuses.

And ive seen 20-25 Knicks games.

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just because your shooting

just because your shooting percentage is high doesnt mean u are not a black hole ball hog... offense movement stops when harrington has the ball. duhon is not a good passer, hes a good pick and roll player its different, even if the pick and roll isnt there he tries to force it in because thats all he got. Gallo isn't a pick and roll player he needs a real creator (felton should be an improvement). Plus as I have said check Gallos True Shooting which takes into account the fact he took more 3s than 2s and it will be high.

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Just face it the Knicks

Just face it the Knicks lacked offensive creators which is a big weakness.

I can agree with that. The Knicks had alot of players who needed scoring option to be created for them last season. I think Felton will be that guy who takes the scorers ( Randolph, Gallinari, Azubikie, Amare) and help them. I think the Knicks won in the part they got length and some defense this offseason.

I predict these numbers for next season

Amare- 24 points, 8 rebounds per game
Gallo- 18 points, 6 rebounds per game
Randolph- 16 points, 10 rebounds per game
Azubikie- 13 points, 4 rebounds per game

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I know. But also you have to

I know.

But also you have to take in account his lack of being able to create, Duhon a good passer.

his assists went down because lack of good offensive players.

Harrington isnt a black hole. He didnt the best shots but he created what others on the team couldnt so i dont blame him.

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ok first of all, for everyone

ok first of all, for everyone who says the hornets would want felton, you are wrong! remember darren collison the young PG who lit it up when Paul was gone last yr? yeh the hornets would want him to be the future and let him be just like paul, second of all anthony randolph has a higher value then galinari, anthony randolph is a top prospect and if it wasnt for injueries last yr then he would have been great just look at his numbers. third of all, whoever said that wilson chandler only means somehting in NY, scouts see talent and chandler is a solid 2 gaurd in this league. the knicks would still have felton on that roster so they would just move him to free some space for Melo in 2011 if they get paul so felton isnt a problem having on their roster bc he will be gone soon enough. the knicks would have to get rid of chandler, randolph and picks.

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ok first of all, for everyone

ok first of all, for everyone who says the hornets would want felton, you are wrong!

Felton has a 2 year deal worth 15 million. If they moved him, he could be a good ( but overpaid) backup in year 1 and trade bait in year 2.

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timmah i dont know what

timmah i dont know what knicks you have been watching, duhon is an awful passer and harrington is most definitely a black hole who take dumb shots and drives in the paint with his head down and losses the ball. i feel bad for the nuggets fans, most frustrating bonehead in the league.

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Yeah Al Harrington is a bit

Yeah Al Harrington is a bit of a ball-hog

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oo and whoever said galo is a

oo and whoever said galo is a good defender, u r deadd wrong hahah he cant stay in front of anybody, he is late on help defense, he just was able to recover on smaller players bc they underestimated his length, hes a great offensive player but as a knicks fan he is a horrrrible defnder!

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never said he was great, hes

never said he was great, hes not awful either, slightly below average is about right.

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I actually think Gallo is a

I actually think Gallo is a slightly above average defensive player.

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i mean hes pretty good at

i mean hes pretty good at recovering but as a true defender he is awful but still i just want to see CP3 in a knicks uniform man

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timmahforprez listen i want u

timmahforprez listen i want u to go watch a knicks game from last yr and show me one single time he stayed in frotn of his defender every team just islolated him and went to work, he recovered on smaller guys but everyone else made him look silly, oo yeh he also got dunked on ALOT

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Hes a good weakside defender,

Hes a good weakside defender, and has good feet for his size.

I think you severely underrating his defense.

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i watch every knicks game

i watch every knicks game (its pathetic i know) he is allways a step or 2 late, and gets beat often i mean he has the right idea but is allways a step or 2 behind

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As a complimentary piece to

As a complimentary piece to Collison, and Thornton rebuilding the Nohla Franchise, Oden and Batum alone is better than anything the Knicks can offer. Randolph and Galinari are good but Galo is a weak defender and argueably the worst case of a tweener in the league and a bad defender, Randolph is a freak athlete but also plays the 3/4 and if he plays the 5 he is the skinniest C in the League. The only arguement you can make is Oden has huge injury problems...okay youre right so throw in Fernandez and some picks and base a deal around that. Knicksboy I know you have an intelligent basketball mind and you are capable of not being a homer so just accept that Portland is the team that can give the best possible deal. Bkballer I have no faith in you realizing this at all...

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Lastly lets break it down

lets break it down : there are 4 teams he wants to play on; mavs, blazers, knicks magic

Mavs are DEFINITELY out because they play in the same divison, 0% chance they want to help the Mavs and play Paul 4 times a year for the next decade. Blazers are also still out west, so its iffy. Fernandez will not go to NO he is already boycotting leaving America and his value is insanely low right now. Oden, who the hell wants Oden right now? The guy might never play another game in the NBA, or average 10 games a year for his career, injury prone centers that have to bang in the paint don't last. Batum is definitely not better than Gallo, the guy averaged 15 and 5 basically his rookie year on a crazy mess of a team, a good PG and the guy averages at least 17 and 6 next year. Randolph has superstar potential as well and for the 1.5 million he gets paid he is a crazy bargain. The Magic, while a much more superior team than the Knicks do not have much to offer either. Howard is off the market, Carter is old and expires at the end of the year no point in NO renting him for a year, Lewis has an awful contract and NO is broke, Nelson is useless because they have Collison, so whats left?

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the division thing is

the division thing is overrated. You play the teams in your division the same amount as you play anyone else in your conference except a couple teams you only 3 times vs 4 times. If the hornets are gonna rule out dallas becasue they are in the same division, then by that logic why wouldnt they rule out portland as well? In the end, teams are gonna try to get the best deal possible. If that means trading him to another western team then so be it.

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I agree Portland can offer

I agree Portland can offer the best deal but Chris Paul still have to sign off on it and he may not want to go to Portland over New York but if push came to shove maybe he would. He may be tired of being in the West.

Also New York also has GSW 2nd round picks. I think two of them and I am sure that GSW second round picks will be between 38 and 47 and a lot of quality 2nd rounder have been picked there and you dont have to pay them 1st round money.

Who doesnt want young players and cheap young talent.

This would help New Orleans in the long run.

Also Kevin Pritchard is not in Portland anymore so I am sure they could come up with a good deal but now I dont know if they will do it.

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Since when is Wilson Chandler

Since when is Wilson Chandler chop liver. I think he is as good a prospect as Batum.

Gallinari at worst will be Bargnani and I believe he is better so I don't see why people are disclaiming this dude.

New York has a lot of cheap talent like I said and that may be on interest to New Orleand and also New York can take on more money than they send out because they have cap space.

Portland would probably not mind taking Okafor so that trumps New York but if New York could find a third team to take Okafor contract then maybe New York can offer the best deal

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Wilson Chandlers as good a

Wilson Chandlers as good a prospect as Batum?

Youve been eating too much chop liver.

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Wilson Chandler 6'8"

Wilson Chandler 6'8" 225lbs
been in league 3 years
career avg in 182 games 31.5 min 451. fg .308 3pt .779 ft 5.1 rb .73 st .77 blks 1.9 ast 13.4 pts

He had 15.3 pt last year

Those are the stats but he can score for deep, he is athletic and can finsih, can post up smaller players, his dribbling is decent but needs some work, and is decent on defense.

Nicolas Batum 6'8" 200 lbs
been in league 2 years
career avg in 116 games 20.4 min .477 fg .387 3pt .825 ft 3.1 rb .64 stl .56 blk 1.0 ast. 6.9 pt

He had 10.1 pt last year in which he only played 37 games

Those are the stats but he can handle the ball, has long arms for defending which is pretty good at, in the limited minutes he has put up decent percentage on a small amount of shots.

I have seen maybe one Portland game and I have seen quite a few Knicks games.

Why is Batum a better young prospect than Chandler?

Why is it that when someone is on the Knicks people take away their value?

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Hes not better Chandler

Hes not better Chandler played injured half the year averaged 15 and 6 shooting 48%, the guy is 23 years old, built like Lebron (obviously nowhere near Lebron), has a great mid range game , gets to the paint with ease and is a solid defender. Never going to be a star because he is very laid back but a very solid starter.

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Yeah Chandler isn't a worse

Yeah Chandler isn't a worse prospect than Batum. Better at everything other than maybe 3-point shooting and he's got MAYBE slightly more defensive potential.

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Gallo/Randolph + Chandler +

Gallo/Randolph + Chandler + TD + 2 2nd rounders = good deal for Paul

Get one solid player with All Star potential, one good starter or great bench player, a solid back up pg/sg and some early 2nd round picks all for a total of 6 million against the cap.

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