[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Soft

25. On January 1st, we will hear a ton of  “Allen Iverson returning to the NBA” talk. We will also hear 10-12 teams looking to sign him…yet he will not get signed.

24. Micheal Beasley will be a hauntingly good player in Minnesota this season.

23.  Utah will be the team everyone pick to beat the Lakers this season

22. Lakers get embarrassed on Christmas…..again.

21. Hedo Turkoglu: Welcome back. I see a bounce back season.

Trying to look Smart?

20. Vince Carter leads the Orlando Magic in points this season

19. At least 15 NBA Trades as teams look to out due each other

18. The Miami never go through a 3 game losing streak the whole season

17. The Cleveland Cavs will not have a 5 game winning streak the whole season

16. The WOW team? Sacramento Kings.

I See Where You’re Coming From…

15. Greg Monroe gives NBA people a Vlade Divac flashback

14. A bad injury to the Los Angeles Lakers….but it’s not Andrew Bynum

13. Derrick Rose gets overrated and some MVP hype.

12. Chris Paul will be inches away from being traded…only to be kept in New Orleans

11. The New Jersey Nets will look good with the improvement of Terrance Williams….and stupid for the movement for Chris Douglas Roberts

Now You’re trying to be funny

10.  Three 2010 2nd round picks ( Landry Fields, Jeremy Evans and Hassan Whiteside) out play ALOT of 1st round picks this season.

9.  The Dallas Mavericks begin the slide as age begins to catch up to them

8. Pack your bags, These players will be traded: Carmelo Anthony, Tyshaun Prince, Jeff Green, Andre Iguadala, Monta Ellis, Micheal Redd, Andries Biedrens, Chris Kaman, Tony Parker, Andre Miller, Shawn Marion and Devin Harris

7. We all fall in love with John Wall but Brandon Jennings will be shown to be the best point guard in the East

6. Blake Griffin will make the Clippers look really good. 17-9-1.5 plus he gets them to the playoffs

5. The Memphis Grizzlies will make the playoffs and become the ” I hope we don’t have to play them” team

VERY GUTSY ( I’m explaining these picks)

5. As Tim Duncan gets older….We marvel at the next great big man: Brook Lopez

– I’m gonna say it: Brook Lopez will put up monster numbers. I’m predicting: 24ppg, 13rpg and 2bpg. He will still have the defensive issues but I wouldn’t be shocked if as early as December, fans look at the 3 year big man as the next great big man.

4. Sophomore Slump: Meet Stephen Curry

-I think Curry is going to struggle this season. I see alot of defensive player aiming all the attention on him. Not to mention, the Monta Ellis factor will be back and that will lower some of Spicy Curry’s shots. ( I love when Dennis Scott uses the Spicy Curry line. Pure Gold)

3. The Biggest NBA Free Agent Is Not Carmelo

– Last season, I said Tracy McGrady would be the MVP of the NBA. He helped NY and Houston this past season. Now, I’m shooting for the stars. As the season continues and teams get worse and worse: Kevin Pritchard will be seen as the Big Free Agent in the NBA.

2. Wesley Johnson will be a top 3 rookie

– Call me crazy, I was wrong on Wes. Did you know he’s shooting 53% from 3 this preseason? We all look and laugh at Minnesota for thier offseason moves but the Wes Johnson pick might be a great pick not only for the upcoming season, but the next couple seasons. I predict 15ppg, 5rpg, 2apg and 46 % from 3

1. The Utah Jazz will make it to the NBA Finals

–  I love my Knicks, but I’m all in on that Utah Jazz team. Deron Williams has always stepped up in the playoffs. Raja Bell is a great defender ( he’s not the same shutdown defender but still a top 10 on ball defender). AK47 will be back again, in a exp contract season. I always been a Mehmet Okur fan. I expect some rust since he will be coming back in December.  The Al Jefferson addition was huge. I think he could come in right away and average 23-10 next season. Remember, he’s a year off the ACL injury.

Also, don’t sleep on that bench. Paul Milsap always plays well against any Western Conference team, other then Los Angeles. Ronnie Price and Earl Watson should be able to back up Williams well. C.J. Miles is a good slasher. Francisco Elson and Kyrylo Fresenko are big bodies. Fresenko looked good against Denver and solid against LA in the playoffs last season. Francisco Elson at the worst? 6 free fouls.  DON’T SLEEP on these 3 players: Gordon Hayward, Jeremy Evans and Ryan Thompson. I will say this Jeremy Evans could be another Paul Milsap type guy. He’s should be another body who’s going to rebound, play grity and test alot of players late in games. Gordon Hayward was a questionable pick to me, I think if Utah can bring him in slowly, he should be effective this season. Ryan Thompson should be able to replace Wes Matthews as the ” defense, 8-10 points” guy for Utah. I believe, if he makes the roster, Thompson could be very valuable for Utah.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

Your 1 2 and 3 I disagree with outright lol. 8 I disagree with and 20 I disagree with. Pretty much everything else is solid and I agree with it completely. Nice post really made me think.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Your 1 2 and 3 I disagree with outright lol. 8 I disagree with and 20 I disagree with. Pretty much everything else is solid and I agree with it completely. Nice post really made me think.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

No problem. Why did you disagree with them, if I don’t mind asking?

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

No problem. Why did you disagree with them, if I don’t mind asking?

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

1.Utah might make it to the conference finals..beat they’re be too beaten up to win it..and they lack depth at guard..

2.Dam! have watched him play? he won’t be among the top 3 rookies,Wall,Griffin & Cousins have those spots covered unless they get hurt..He’s among the top 10 rookies..But Wesley hangs around the 3 point line too much and still hasn’t learn to put it on the floor..But he’s an amazing shooter and very athletic.T-Wolves can use him in a Robert Horry type role…

3.wtf?

4.i expect Flynn to take a step back.becuz of the injury..

5.Dont know about Brook being the next great big man,becuz those guys do it on the defensive end more..but he’s among the top 5 centers in the league.

Memphis could’ve won 50 games last year.But they let alot of 3rd quarter leads get away..They didnt have guys that knew how to finish games..Tony Allen & Damien Wilkens will bring some nasty to that team…

If the Kings can add some more back court depth and outside shooting,they could surprise some folks..

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

1.Utah might make it to the conference finals..beat they’re be too beaten up to win it..and they lack depth at guard..

2.Dam! have watched him play? he won’t be among the top 3 rookies,Wall,Griffin & Cousins have those spots covered unless they get hurt..He’s among the top 10 rookies..But Wesley hangs around the 3 point line too much and still hasn’t learn to put it on the floor..But he’s an amazing shooter and very athletic.T-Wolves can use him in a Robert Horry type role…

3.wtf?

4.i expect Flynn to take a step back.becuz of the injury..

5.Dont know about Brook being the next great big man,becuz those guys do it on the defensive end more..but he’s among the top 5 centers in the league.

Memphis could’ve won 50 games last year.But they let alot of 3rd quarter leads get away..They didnt have guys that knew how to finish games..Tony Allen & Damien Wilkens will bring some nasty to that team…

If the Kings can add some more back court depth and outside shooting,they could surprise some folks..

[ChewyParticipant]

some points that I will argue:

1. Your right Rose will get some undeserved MVP talk, but he is and will still be better than Brandon Jennings. So Jennings is not the number 1 pg in the East (Rondo is better than him too).

2. Utah Jazz are not making the finals. They simply can’t compete with LA’s height and that has been proven for the last couple years.

3. This years "wow where did they come from" team will be NJ not the Kings. Both almost definently will miss the playoffs anyway.

4. Monta won’t be traded. I just can’t see the Warriors pulling the trigger on him.

5. Tracy McGrady might put up big numbers in Detriot, but they won’t equal wins and because of that he still won’t get back to "what he used to be."

6. CDR was a cancer in the lockeroom. He might be ok on a team with strong vetern leaders, but for NJ it was not a good fit. It was a good move for them to let CDR go on his way.

7. Memphis could become the West’s Atlanta Hawks… a team that is young and atheltic. They might scare some people as you say, but their not winning a 7 game series.

8. I can see why you are high on Wes Johnson, but IMO I have Wall, Griffin, Cousins and Turner above him. I think the reason why people like him (jumpshot) will be the reason he faulters a little this season (too many 3’s and not enough driving for layups/dunk and free throws).

[ChewyParticipant]

some points that I will argue:

1. Your right Rose will get some undeserved MVP talk, but he is and will still be better than Brandon Jennings. So Jennings is not the number 1 pg in the East (Rondo is better than him too).

2. Utah Jazz are not making the finals. They simply can’t compete with LA’s height and that has been proven for the last couple years.

3. This years "wow where did they come from" team will be NJ not the Kings. Both almost definently will miss the playoffs anyway.

4. Monta won’t be traded. I just can’t see the Warriors pulling the trigger on him.

5. Tracy McGrady might put up big numbers in Detriot, but they won’t equal wins and because of that he still won’t get back to "what he used to be."

6. CDR was a cancer in the lockeroom. He might be ok on a team with strong vetern leaders, but for NJ it was not a good fit. It was a good move for them to let CDR go on his way.

7. Memphis could become the West’s Atlanta Hawks… a team that is young and atheltic. They might scare some people as you say, but their not winning a 7 game series.

8. I can see why you are high on Wes Johnson, but IMO I have Wall, Griffin, Cousins and Turner above him. I think the reason why people like him (jumpshot) will be the reason he faulters a little this season (too many 3’s and not enough driving for layups/dunk and free throws).

[OhCanada-Participant]

1. The Jazz have no elite perimeter scoring and no elite rebounding. They have no elite post defense, and no elite shot blocking. The whole team is slightly injury prone, Kirelenko, Williams, Okur. For them to change so much in such a solid system will be hard to adapt and immediatly win it all.

2.Wesley Johnson wont get top3 Rookie Minutes. Also this…Wall, Cousins, Griffin.

3. I have no clue what number 3 ios about. Doesnt make any sense.

4. I also disagree with number 4 never thought about it but Curry should be fine.

8.Trading all those guys will be tough. Green i think stays.

20. I think the exact opposite. I think Carter limits himself to about 15-ppg and Howard goes from about 10 shots per game to 15.

[OhCanada-Participant]

1. The Jazz have no elite perimeter scoring and no elite rebounding. They have no elite post defense, and no elite shot blocking. The whole team is slightly injury prone, Kirelenko, Williams, Okur. For them to change so much in such a solid system will be hard to adapt and immediatly win it all.

2.Wesley Johnson wont get top3 Rookie Minutes. Also this…Wall, Cousins, Griffin.

3. I have no clue what number 3 ios about. Doesnt make any sense.

4. I also disagree with number 4 never thought about it but Curry should be fine.

8.Trading all those guys will be tough. Green i think stays.

20. I think the exact opposite. I think Carter limits himself to about 15-ppg and Howard goes from about 10 shots per game to 15.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Wes pick was stupid because they could have had Cousins and also they traded for Webster.  They have a whole bunch of small forwards who will have to play out of position.  Johnson is a good player who should be able to come in given that he is 23.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Wes pick was stupid because they could have had Cousins and also they traded for Webster.  They have a whole bunch of small forwards who will have to play out of position.  Johnson is a good player who should be able to come in given that he is 23.

[mgreener_34Participant]

 "7. We all fall in love with John Wall but Brandon Jennings will be shown to be the best point guard in the East"

For some reason I don’t think Brandon Jennings is going to surpass Rondo, or Rose for that matter. What was your thinking on this one man?

[mgreener_34Participant]

 "7. We all fall in love with John Wall but Brandon Jennings will be shown to be the best point guard in the East"

For some reason I don’t think Brandon Jennings is going to surpass Rondo, or Rose for that matter. What was your thinking on this one man?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Soft

25. I agree.

24. I agree to a certain extent. He’ll get more touches and have a longer leash, which will lead to more confidence and a higher scoring average.

23. I disagree. I like Utah, but the Lakers are a bad matchup.

22. It’s possible, especially if Bynum isn’t at full strength.

21. I agree… He’ll thrive in the Suns’ offense. He’ll have the ball more than he did in Toronto.

Trying to look Smart?

20. I disagree. Howard will, especially after working as hard as he did this summer on his offensive game. He worked with the Dream.

19. Sounds like a lot. I doubt it.

18. I agree. I’d be very surprised if they lost three in a row.

17. I haven’t looked at their schedule, but I agree. They’ll play hard, but will struggle.

16. I agree. They should be very fun to watch.

I See Where You’re Coming From…

15. I guess.

14. To whom?

13. I think he’ll get some MVP hype too, but he won’t be overrated.

12. No, I don’t think so. He’s stuck in New Orleans.

11. I agree with Terrence Williams, but disagree about Chris Douglass-Roberts. With Outlaw and Morrow, they won’t miss him.

Now You’re trying to be funny

10. I disagree about Evans. He’s athletic, but too skinny/weak to be a contributor this season.

9. I disagree. They’re old, but they have very good depth.

8. I disagree with Green, Parker, Marion, Biedrins, Ellis and Harris.

7. Rondo and Rose???

6. Griffin will be amazing, but I think the Clippers fall short of the playoffs.

5. I can agree with Memphis making the playoffs and causing problems.  

VERY GUTSY ( I’m explaining these picks)

5. I agree. Lopez is the next great offensive big man.

4. I disagree. I think Curry will be better this season and Ellis’ numbers will go down a little.

3. I disagree… He’s overrated.

2. Wall, Cousins and Griffin?

1. It’s possible depending on the seeding, but I doubt it.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Soft

25. I agree.

24. I agree to a certain extent. He’ll get more touches and have a longer leash, which will lead to more confidence and a higher scoring average.

23. I disagree. I like Utah, but the Lakers are a bad matchup.

22. It’s possible, especially if Bynum isn’t at full strength.

21. I agree… He’ll thrive in the Suns’ offense. He’ll have the ball more than he did in Toronto.

Trying to look Smart?

20. I disagree. Howard will, especially after working as hard as he did this summer on his offensive game. He worked with the Dream.

19. Sounds like a lot. I doubt it.

18. I agree. I’d be very surprised if they lost three in a row.

17. I haven’t looked at their schedule, but I agree. They’ll play hard, but will struggle.

16. I agree. They should be very fun to watch.

I See Where You’re Coming From…

15. I guess.

14. To whom?

13. I think he’ll get some MVP hype too, but he won’t be overrated.

12. No, I don’t think so. He’s stuck in New Orleans.

11. I agree with Terrence Williams, but disagree about Chris Douglass-Roberts. With Outlaw and Morrow, they won’t miss him.

Now You’re trying to be funny

10. I disagree about Evans. He’s athletic, but too skinny/weak to be a contributor this season.

9. I disagree. They’re old, but they have very good depth.

8. I disagree with Green, Parker, Marion, Biedrins, Ellis and Harris.

7. Rondo and Rose???

6. Griffin will be amazing, but I think the Clippers fall short of the playoffs.

5. I can agree with Memphis making the playoffs and causing problems.  

VERY GUTSY ( I’m explaining these picks)

5. I agree. Lopez is the next great offensive big man.

4. I disagree. I think Curry will be better this season and Ellis’ numbers will go down a little.

3. I disagree… He’s overrated.

2. Wall, Cousins and Griffin?

1. It’s possible depending on the seeding, but I doubt it.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 You guys are sleeping on the Jazz. Seriously you may not think the preseason matters but try telling that to one of the few teams that is UNBEATEN in the preseason. And Jeremy Evans is a beast. You may be thinking who, but seriously check this guy out. Every game I have been impressed by his numbers and can not wait until the season starts and I can watch him on TV instead of just continuosly looking at his stats after games. Hayward is doing alright, but not great. Miles is amazing as always. He is a slasher that most teams will watch out for. He could be the MIP or 6th man of the year. Averaging 15-20 points per game, and 3 steals. And Oh my Goodness Jefferson is the definition of a complete monster. Seriously all of this may seem far fetched for the Jazz but just look at their preseason so far and you see what I mean. Watch their game against the Lakers on NBATV today, and you will be amazed.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 You guys are sleeping on the Jazz. Seriously you may not think the preseason matters but try telling that to one of the few teams that is UNBEATEN in the preseason. And Jeremy Evans is a beast. You may be thinking who, but seriously check this guy out. Every game I have been impressed by his numbers and can not wait until the season starts and I can watch him on TV instead of just continuosly looking at his stats after games. Hayward is doing alright, but not great. Miles is amazing as always. He is a slasher that most teams will watch out for. He could be the MIP or 6th man of the year. Averaging 15-20 points per game, and 3 steals. And Oh my Goodness Jefferson is the definition of a complete monster. Seriously all of this may seem far fetched for the Jazz but just look at their preseason so far and you see what I mean. Watch their game against the Lakers on NBATV today, and you will be amazed.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Let me talk about the one’s you guys seem to be confused with

3- I think Kevin Pritchard will be a hot name among alot of NBA teams. He built that Portland team and a couple teams who will be looking for a GM will have Pritchard as thier #1. I think he commands alot.

2- I’m telling you this: Unless Samuel Dalembert gets traded, I think Cousins coming off the bench. I like Evan Turner but I don’t see him starting right now unless it’s a Jrue-Evan-Iggy lineup.

8- A good amount of those players could be traded. I could see like 3-5 of them moved.

 

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Let me talk about the one’s you guys seem to be confused with

3- I think Kevin Pritchard will be a hot name among alot of NBA teams. He built that Portland team and a couple teams who will be looking for a GM will have Pritchard as thier #1. I think he commands alot.

2- I’m telling you this: Unless Samuel Dalembert gets traded, I think Cousins coming off the bench. I like Evan Turner but I don’t see him starting right now unless it’s a Jrue-Evan-Iggy lineup.

8- A good amount of those players could be traded. I could see like 3-5 of them moved.

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Kevin Pritchard is a good GM, but he’s overrated. Nobody talks about all of Paul Allen’s money he’s blown on draft picks, quite a few of them still overseas.

Dalembert will miss the start of the season with an injury. Cousins will start and I don’t expect him to lose that starting spot. Cousins is a automatic double double. He just needs to defend better.

The Jazz will be a good team, but I don’t see how they can beat the Lakers. Bynum, Gasol and Odom equals problems for the Jazz.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Kevin Pritchard is a good GM, but he’s overrated. Nobody talks about all of Paul Allen’s money he’s blown on draft picks, quite a few of them still overseas.

Dalembert will miss the start of the season with an injury. Cousins will start and I don’t expect him to lose that starting spot. Cousins is a automatic double double. He just needs to defend better.

The Jazz will be a good team, but I don’t see how they can beat the Lakers. Bynum, Gasol and Odom equals problems for the Jazz.

[SteroidParticipant]

Unless the Jazz someone sneak by the Lakers in the playoffs which is highly unlikely, I doubt they will get to the finals. The Jazz doesn’t have the size to deal with the Lakers’ size.

[SteroidParticipant]

Unless the Jazz someone sneak by the Lakers in the playoffs which is highly unlikely, I doubt they will get to the finals. The Jazz doesn’t have the size to deal with the Lakers’ size.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 That was good list Knicksboys, I really liked the format of the list it made it easier and fun to read.

I thought number 3 should of been number one and I completely agree that Kevin Pritchard will be a huge asset for a team looking to completely make over their team.  

You named all the players that will have a ton of trade rumors surrounding them this winter.  I like a lot of them to get moved maybe even for each other.  Also you forgot Arenas he has to be moved.

If Mike Beasley goes off this season in Minnesota which I think he will and win MIP, that means Wes Johnson will have his opportunities limited.

And Blake Griffin could get the Clippers to the playoffs but I don’t see any way possible the he don’t average a double double this season.

Brooke Lopez might be the 3rd best center in the league right now.

I dunno what to make of Derrick Rose whether he’s overrated or not but if the Bulls win a lot of games this year he will be in a lot of MVP talk.

Brandon Jennings has the potential to be the best PG in the East IMO.  But Rose and Rondo have it locked at least for these next 2 years.  

It’s a given that a few 2nd rounders will outplay a few first rounder any year.  I noticed that you used that moment to give a Landry Fields shout out.  That’s cool but you should of taken it one step further and said these 2nd rounder will outplay these lottery picks.  For instance say Landry Fields will have a better year then Gordon Hayward.  It could happen.

And my prediction is CDR will have a better year and a bigger impact then Terrence Williams.

Overall good read.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 That was good list Knicksboys, I really liked the format of the list it made it easier and fun to read.

I thought number 3 should of been number one and I completely agree that Kevin Pritchard will be a huge asset for a team looking to completely make over their team.  

You named all the players that will have a ton of trade rumors surrounding them this winter.  I like a lot of them to get moved maybe even for each other.  Also you forgot Arenas he has to be moved.

If Mike Beasley goes off this season in Minnesota which I think he will and win MIP, that means Wes Johnson will have his opportunities limited.

And Blake Griffin could get the Clippers to the playoffs but I don’t see any way possible the he don’t average a double double this season.

Brooke Lopez might be the 3rd best center in the league right now.

I dunno what to make of Derrick Rose whether he’s overrated or not but if the Bulls win a lot of games this year he will be in a lot of MVP talk.

Brandon Jennings has the potential to be the best PG in the East IMO.  But Rose and Rondo have it locked at least for these next 2 years.  

It’s a given that a few 2nd rounders will outplay a few first rounder any year.  I noticed that you used that moment to give a Landry Fields shout out.  That’s cool but you should of taken it one step further and said these 2nd rounder will outplay these lottery picks.  For instance say Landry Fields will have a better year then Gordon Hayward.  It could happen.

And my prediction is CDR will have a better year and a bigger impact then Terrence Williams.

Overall good read.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Kevin Pritchard is a good GM, but he’s overrated. Nobody talks about all of Paul Allen’s money he’s blown on draft picks, quite a few of them still overseas.

 

Disagree. You also have to look at the trades he made to save the cap space. He came in with a average roster, flipped it completly and POR still has a 10 mil cap hold on D-Miles

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Kevin Pritchard is a good GM, but he’s overrated. Nobody talks about all of Paul Allen’s money he’s blown on draft picks, quite a few of them still overseas.

 

Disagree. You also have to look at the trades he made to save the cap space. He came in with a average roster, flipped it completly and POR still has a 10 mil cap hold on D-Miles

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

okay now the reason y i dissed that other guys list cuz some stuff on there was not realistic at all… ur mr knicks 32 is pretty damn good, +1

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

okay now the reason y i dissed that other guys list cuz some stuff on there was not realistic at all… ur mr knicks 32 is pretty damn good, +1

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Thank you. I try. Expect more stuff when the season actually begins.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Thank you. I try. Expect more stuff when the season actually begins.

[butidonthavemoney]

I like the last one.

Haha, seriously. Good job.

[butidonthavemoney]

I like the last one.

Haha, seriously. Good job.

[llperez]

fun read. Here ar emy thoughts on each:

25-i think we will defenitely hear iverson back to the nba rumors. Not sure about when or how many teams are rumored, but i actually think someone might give him a go.

24-i think beasley will be solid. But not sure he gets more then about 28 minutes and his defense/passing is still poor. Its one thing to put up points and numbers, but would he be able to do it on a winner? Also, its gonna be hard for him to break out and for wes johnson to be a top 3 rookie since they play the same position mostly.

23-not sure if you mean right now or at some point everyone will pick utah. If you mean right now, then obviously not since most predictions dont have them number 2. BUt if at some point, then yeah could very well happen.

22-possibly.

21-yeah, hedo should be solid. But i think phoenix is gonna play a lot of guys and sub quite a bit with hedo, childress, hill, dudley, and warrick all playing 20-30 minutes, so i dont know if hedo’s stats will be anything too impressive.

20-vince could, but i would go with dwight

19-i never counted trades in the past, but i dont think this year will be much different then years past. Most teams made their moves in the offseason.

18-agree, dont see the heat losing 3 in a row unless injuries occur

17-agree, the cavs will struggle every night

16-nope. WHo are they gonna beat up on? Are we really that excited about cousins as a rookie to be a major difference maker? Other then tyreke, tell me this is a dangerous perimiter group: beno udrih, omri casspi, donte greene, francisco garcia, antoinne wright? I think the kings are getting too much hype around here and will be near the very bottom of the league, maybe like 3-4 teams worse then them.

15-agree. Similar style. But can he bring similar production?

14-this is just a shot in the dark guess unless you give a name or reason.

13-i dont think he is either overrated or an mvp. I do think he is the best pg in the east and a legit all-star. BUt mvp is taking it a little far.

12-i think new orleans holds onto pual and if the team sucks they then trade him after the season.

11-agree about twill, i really like what i see from him. Dissagree about cdr, he is nothing special.

10-i think fields will out play a lot of first rounders. I have not seen evans play yet, so cant comment on him. Whiteside wont get the minutes nor is he ready to be a difference maker.

9-dallas has had age catching up to them for a while, but i actually think this next years team is just as good if not a little better then last years. Butler is in a contract year and i expect him to give a real solid boost. But they are defenitly old and their window is closing.

8-not sure, but those do sound like some good trade pieces

7-wall and jennings will be neck and neck next season, but neither are the best pg in the east. Rose and rondo are the top 2.

6-blake will look great. But no playoffs for clippers in my opinion.

5a-quite possibly. I actually agree with this, but we’ll have to wait and see. Memphis is very talented.

5b-agree. Brook is gonna be a beast and a star in this league.

4-agree. I can see cury kinda leveling out this next year and not take a big stride, although you could add a few other guys for this as well.

3-disagree. Superstars can change the face of a franchise from wins, sells and ability to attract other free agents. I think lots of gms are solid and the difference from one to the next is not all that huge.

2-possible. But like i mentioned earlier, hard for both wes and beasley to break out unless they play beas at the 4 or wes at the 2. Keep in mind webster has looked great, brewer is one of their best defneders. I do think wes will be a top 5 rookie, top 3 i would say wall, griffin and cousins

1-nah

 

[llperez]

fun read. Here ar emy thoughts on each:

25-i think we will defenitely hear iverson back to the nba rumors. Not sure about when or how many teams are rumored, but i actually think someone might give him a go.

24-i think beasley will be solid. But not sure he gets more then about 28 minutes and his defense/passing is still poor. Its one thing to put up points and numbers, but would he be able to do it on a winner? Also, its gonna be hard for him to break out and for wes johnson to be a top 3 rookie since they play the same position mostly.

23-not sure if you mean right now or at some point everyone will pick utah. If you mean right now, then obviously not since most predictions dont have them number 2. BUt if at some point, then yeah could very well happen.

22-possibly.

21-yeah, hedo should be solid. But i think phoenix is gonna play a lot of guys and sub quite a bit with hedo, childress, hill, dudley, and warrick all playing 20-30 minutes, so i dont know if hedo’s stats will be anything too impressive.

20-vince could, but i would go with dwight

19-i never counted trades in the past, but i dont think this year will be much different then years past. Most teams made their moves in the offseason.

18-agree, dont see the heat losing 3 in a row unless injuries occur

17-agree, the cavs will struggle every night

16-nope. WHo are they gonna beat up on? Are we really that excited about cousins as a rookie to be a major difference maker? Other then tyreke, tell me this is a dangerous perimiter group: beno udrih, omri casspi, donte greene, francisco garcia, antoinne wright? I think the kings are getting too much hype around here and will be near the very bottom of the league, maybe like 3-4 teams worse then them.

15-agree. Similar style. But can he bring similar production?

14-this is just a shot in the dark guess unless you give a name or reason.

13-i dont think he is either overrated or an mvp. I do think he is the best pg in the east and a legit all-star. BUt mvp is taking it a little far.

12-i think new orleans holds onto pual and if the team sucks they then trade him after the season.

11-agree about twill, i really like what i see from him. Dissagree about cdr, he is nothing special.

10-i think fields will out play a lot of first rounders. I have not seen evans play yet, so cant comment on him. Whiteside wont get the minutes nor is he ready to be a difference maker.

9-dallas has had age catching up to them for a while, but i actually think this next years team is just as good if not a little better then last years. Butler is in a contract year and i expect him to give a real solid boost. But they are defenitly old and their window is closing.

8-not sure, but those do sound like some good trade pieces

7-wall and jennings will be neck and neck next season, but neither are the best pg in the east. Rose and rondo are the top 2.

6-blake will look great. But no playoffs for clippers in my opinion.

5a-quite possibly. I actually agree with this, but we’ll have to wait and see. Memphis is very talented.

5b-agree. Brook is gonna be a beast and a star in this league.

4-agree. I can see cury kinda leveling out this next year and not take a big stride, although you could add a few other guys for this as well.

3-disagree. Superstars can change the face of a franchise from wins, sells and ability to attract other free agents. I think lots of gms are solid and the difference from one to the next is not all that huge.

2-possible. But like i mentioned earlier, hard for both wes and beasley to break out unless they play beas at the 4 or wes at the 2. Keep in mind webster has looked great, brewer is one of their best defneders. I do think wes will be a top 5 rookie, top 3 i would say wall, griffin and cousins

1-nah

 

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

When I meant WOW team: I meant a team who looks really good some nights and really bad some other nights.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

When I meant WOW team: I meant a team who looks really good some nights and really bad some other nights.

[SubZeroParticipant]

Wow you must really hate the Lakers lol..they get beat by the Jazz, swept by the Clippers, get (Kobe, Pau?) injured, get embarassed on Christmas, then don’t even make the Finals lol

But, it’s a better list than I could do

[SubZeroParticipant]

Wow you must really hate the Lakers lol..they get beat by the Jazz, swept by the Clippers, get (Kobe, Pau?) injured, get embarassed on Christmas, then don’t even make the Finals lol

But, it’s a better list than I could do

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 I was about to give you a thumbs up, and mention good list think your a little crazy for a couple, and be done, then you break out # 1 on me. 

lol 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 I was about to give you a thumbs up, and mention good list think your a little crazy for a couple, and be done, then you break out # 1 on me. 

lol 

[shangrilaParticipant]

Soft

25. Maybe, but I doubt it’s 10-12 and I think the only one talking about his return will be him.

24. I don’t think he’ll be "hauntingly" good but he should be good enough to solidify the SF position for them and form a nice combination with Love going forward.

23. Disagree. It’ll be Portland, assuming everyone’s healthy. They have the height, the star and the role players to go head to head with the Lakers, just like they’ve been doing the last few years. Although I think that Dallas might get some talk as a potential dark horse.

22. Probably.

21. I think he’ll be somewhere roughly in between his Toronto and Orlando versions. He’ll get the ball more without Calderon and Bosh but not as much in Orlando when he didn’t have Nash.

Trying to look Smart?

20. Probably. Howard is no offensive force, that’s for sure.

19. Major or minor trades? Cause there’s been a few small ones already, so 15 isn’t exactly aiming high.

18. I could maybe see it happening but it depends on scheduling.

17. They look bad on paper, so agreed.

16. Why? Evans was impressive, but guys like Greene and Udrih aren’t and Cousins is averaging 5.5 fouls per game in pre-season. Not to mention they’ve lost Dalemburt for a little while and Whiteside is too raw to be a big contributor…I just don’t see it. Maybe they improve on last season, assuming they don’t have a set back on the scale of trying to integrate Martin back in like last season, but it won’t make them a WOW team. I think Minnesota, considering expectations, will surprise people as will the Knicks and Phoenix.

I See Where You’re Coming From…

15. I don’t think he’s THAT good. A Brad Miller flashback maybe.

14. I’m assuming you mean Kobe and with his knee troubles so far I could see it happening

13. Definitely. I still think Paul is above him and it’s still Lebron’s award to lose, no matter what some people think.

12. Unless they suck hard I doubt it. What I do think will happen is that the Hornets will move Peja for a major piece or two as the season progresses, and I think a prime candidate could be Arenas if he plays well off the ball with Wall.

11. Williams is a guy that needs the ball in his hands to be effective, so assuming Avery does that more then Frank did then yeah he’ll show improvement. Roberts wasn’t a great player for them so I doubt they ever regret moving him.

Now You’re trying to be funny

10. I can believe Fields and Evans, who look like two really hard working players, but Whiteside? The guy hasn’t even played a pre-season game yet. The guy I think will surprise, and I know he was a 1st rounder, is Dominique Jones. He was seriously underrated during pre-draft.

9. I’m not so sure. Kidd will maybe take a small step backwards but I doubt Dirk will and everyone else may be older but they’re not at the point of decline. Guys like Butler and Haywood should still have solid seasons.

8. Anthony yes, Prince no, why Jeff Green, Igoudala’s contract is too big, ditto for Ellis, Redd won’t be back and Bucks don’t need his expiring for anything, Biedrins no, Kaman hell no, Parker no, Miller no, Marion no because he’s too over the hill at this point and no way with Devin Harris UNLESS Anthony is coming back.

7. I think as players Rose is better, but as a point guard Rondo is still the best in the East. Jennings will be right behind those two though and if he can be more efficient I think he could easily pass them, as he’s a better passer then Rose and, if he ups his efficiency, a better scorer then Rondo

6. Judging from pre-season that looks fair. He looks like an absolute beast so far, as long as he’s healthy I think that team will go far.

5. I can’t see it. They’re good on paper, but nothing really sticks out. Mayo and Gay are 2nd tier stars at best and not the kind of players that usually lead these "oh crap, not them" teams, like Joe Johnson and Derrick Rose did in the past few years. I think it’ll either be New Orleans or the Clippers in the West and the Wizards or the Pacers in the East.

VERY GUTSY ( I’m explaining these picks)

5. Can’t see it. Lopez isn’t enough of a factor defensively to be labeled great and I haven’t seen enough from his post game to crown him the next best big man. He still seems like too much of a soft big to me.

4. Sophomore Slump: Tyreke Evans. Just to be gutsy…I can see him having problems adjusting to Cousins, as well as adjusting to teams going all out to stop him. His lack of a jump shot will really hurt him this season too as teams can play off him heavily. If not him then I’d say Collison, just because I don’t believe he’s the saviour Indiana seems to think he is.

3. If he couldn’t get the New Orleans or Denver jobs, then where else is he going to go? I get the feeling though that people in Portland didn’t like how he got all the credit and wouldn’t be suprised if they were bad mouthing him in NBA circles. If that’s so I think his best bet would be to try and latch on to a team in the scouting department or as an assistant GM.

2. I think Johnson will be ranked over Turner when the season’s over, but Cousins, Wall and Griffin seem to have the top 3 locked up. The only way I see him cracking it is if Cousins’ foul troubles continue and he doesn’t see the floor much.

1. I think it’s Lakers and Heat, assuming everyone’s healthy, with the Lakers winning in 6 and completing their 3-peat.

[shangrilaParticipant]

Soft

25. Maybe, but I doubt it’s 10-12 and I think the only one talking about his return will be him.

24. I don’t think he’ll be "hauntingly" good but he should be good enough to solidify the SF position for them and form a nice combination with Love going forward.

23. Disagree. It’ll be Portland, assuming everyone’s healthy. They have the height, the star and the role players to go head to head with the Lakers, just like they’ve been doing the last few years. Although I think that Dallas might get some talk as a potential dark horse.

22. Probably.

21. I think he’ll be somewhere roughly in between his Toronto and Orlando versions. He’ll get the ball more without Calderon and Bosh but not as much in Orlando when he didn’t have Nash.

Trying to look Smart?

20. Probably. Howard is no offensive force, that’s for sure.

19. Major or minor trades? Cause there’s been a few small ones already, so 15 isn’t exactly aiming high.

18. I could maybe see it happening but it depends on scheduling.

17. They look bad on paper, so agreed.

16. Why? Evans was impressive, but guys like Greene and Udrih aren’t and Cousins is averaging 5.5 fouls per game in pre-season. Not to mention they’ve lost Dalemburt for a little while and Whiteside is too raw to be a big contributor…I just don’t see it. Maybe they improve on last season, assuming they don’t have a set back on the scale of trying to integrate Martin back in like last season, but it won’t make them a WOW team. I think Minnesota, considering expectations, will surprise people as will the Knicks and Phoenix.

I See Where You’re Coming From…

15. I don’t think he’s THAT good. A Brad Miller flashback maybe.

14. I’m assuming you mean Kobe and with his knee troubles so far I could see it happening

13. Definitely. I still think Paul is above him and it’s still Lebron’s award to lose, no matter what some people think.

12. Unless they suck hard I doubt it. What I do think will happen is that the Hornets will move Peja for a major piece or two as the season progresses, and I think a prime candidate could be Arenas if he plays well off the ball with Wall.

11. Williams is a guy that needs the ball in his hands to be effective, so assuming Avery does that more then Frank did then yeah he’ll show improvement. Roberts wasn’t a great player for them so I doubt they ever regret moving him.

Now You’re trying to be funny

10. I can believe Fields and Evans, who look like two really hard working players, but Whiteside? The guy hasn’t even played a pre-season game yet. The guy I think will surprise, and I know he was a 1st rounder, is Dominique Jones. He was seriously underrated during pre-draft.

9. I’m not so sure. Kidd will maybe take a small step backwards but I doubt Dirk will and everyone else may be older but they’re not at the point of decline. Guys like Butler and Haywood should still have solid seasons.

8. Anthony yes, Prince no, why Jeff Green, Igoudala’s contract is too big, ditto for Ellis, Redd won’t be back and Bucks don’t need his expiring for anything, Biedrins no, Kaman hell no, Parker no, Miller no, Marion no because he’s too over the hill at this point and no way with Devin Harris UNLESS Anthony is coming back.

7. I think as players Rose is better, but as a point guard Rondo is still the best in the East. Jennings will be right behind those two though and if he can be more efficient I think he could easily pass them, as he’s a better passer then Rose and, if he ups his efficiency, a better scorer then Rondo

6. Judging from pre-season that looks fair. He looks like an absolute beast so far, as long as he’s healthy I think that team will go far.

5. I can’t see it. They’re good on paper, but nothing really sticks out. Mayo and Gay are 2nd tier stars at best and not the kind of players that usually lead these "oh crap, not them" teams, like Joe Johnson and Derrick Rose did in the past few years. I think it’ll either be New Orleans or the Clippers in the West and the Wizards or the Pacers in the East.

VERY GUTSY ( I’m explaining these picks)

5. Can’t see it. Lopez isn’t enough of a factor defensively to be labeled great and I haven’t seen enough from his post game to crown him the next best big man. He still seems like too much of a soft big to me.

4. Sophomore Slump: Tyreke Evans. Just to be gutsy…I can see him having problems adjusting to Cousins, as well as adjusting to teams going all out to stop him. His lack of a jump shot will really hurt him this season too as teams can play off him heavily. If not him then I’d say Collison, just because I don’t believe he’s the saviour Indiana seems to think he is.

3. If he couldn’t get the New Orleans or Denver jobs, then where else is he going to go? I get the feeling though that people in Portland didn’t like how he got all the credit and wouldn’t be suprised if they were bad mouthing him in NBA circles. If that’s so I think his best bet would be to try and latch on to a team in the scouting department or as an assistant GM.

2. I think Johnson will be ranked over Turner when the season’s over, but Cousins, Wall and Griffin seem to have the top 3 locked up. The only way I see him cracking it is if Cousins’ foul troubles continue and he doesn’t see the floor much.

1. I think it’s Lakers and Heat, assuming everyone’s healthy, with the Lakers winning in 6 and completing their 3-peat.

[Jlv2010]

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P.S. Cousins > Wes Johnson

[Jlv2010]

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P.S. Cousins > Wes Johnson

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