These are my 5 MVP candidates
Rose - once again hitting game winners.
Lebron - having an amazing year, taking his game to the post. Would like to see him take and hit some game winners.
Durant - leading the Thunder to the best record.
Paul - the leader of the the Clippers. w/o him the Clippers are a mess.
Love - I got Love in over Kobe, which is very hard. But Love is putting up some crazy numbers and the Wolves have a chance to make the playoffs for the first time since KG left.
Just missing my top 5:
Kobe - leading the league in scoring but the Lakers got problems.
Howard - the best Center in the league, doesnt seem like he is enjoy playing, hard to not consider him.
Deron Williams - Jersey Nets would be worse than the Bobcats without him
Kyrie Irving - hard to put a rookie on the list, but hitting game winners and carrying the Cavs in the 4th quarter, the Cavs would be worse without him.
Westbrook - very easy to overlook Westbrook as an MVP candidate considering he plays with Durant, but Westbrook is a terror matchup problem for most point guards in the league not named Rose. Why not have 2 players from the top team in the league?
Kyrie Irving? lol the Cavs aren't close to being .500 on the year.
Although I do admit they would be pretty close to Charlotte's record without Irving, he just doesn't have the gaudy stats of say a Deron Williams to deserve recognition in the MVP race despite their team's record.
Irving and Williams, imo, are outside candidates for the MVP. I dont either will win the award because their teams are not that good. But the MVP is the players value to the team.
Take Irving and Willians off their respected teams, and the Cavs and Nets are in line with the Bobcats as the worst teams in the league. And you take a look at their respected stats, the game winners Irving as made, the 50+ scoring game Williams had, it will get peoples attention and garner MVP discussion. Again, not saying they will win the award, I did have them outside the top 5.
My top 3;
Go ask the Heat, Clippers, Bulls and Thunder how much LeBron, Paul, Rose and Durant are valued by their teammates. I think those four, along with Kobe are the top 5. None of them are contenders without them.
I'm not saying Irving should be in there at all, cause I don't.
BUT if you put Irving on there, how did you miss Rubio? Minnesota is currently in the Playoffs IF the playoffs started today, alot of that has Kevin Loves name written all over it, but Rubio deserves alot of credit as well.
I dont know how Lebron can be the MVP...if the award was the MOP or player of the year he would win in a runaway. But he isnt the most valuable player. The Heat are a top 4 team without him in the East. And would still be in the mix of contention. I'm not taking anything away from him, but the Heat have Wade and Bosh still, and very capable wing players in Battier, Miller and Jones. His stats are incredible, but he isnt the most VALUABLE
Take Durant off the Thunder, they might be a playoff team, but a Durantless Thunder is not better then the Rockets, Nuggets, or Timberwolves.
Take Kobe off the Lakers, they are aweful.
Take Paul off the Clippers, you have last years Clippers without Eric Gordon
Take Love off the Timberwolves, they might have 5 wins.
None of these players are better or more outstanding than Lebron, but they are more valuable to their teams this year.
Lebron has been by far the best player in the NBA this year and has been an absolute monster without Wade and Bosh for stretches. If best = MVP, then he wins this year.
but lebron is mvp at this point in the season. rose has missed too many games for a shortened season. kobe's playing great but the lakers just arent a top 3 team. and durant is arguable but just by sheer numbers lebron is better right now. season isn't over though.
Tony Parker deserves some credit too he's been ridiculous this year leading the Spurs to another under the radar top seed
Yes, Parker has done very well and has gone under the radar. Duncan is on restricted mins and ginobilli has been injured, Parker has carried alot of the load and could very well make the 2nd or 3rd All-NBA team....
Is averaging 19.5 and 8 assists but more importantly the Spurs have a great record....
My top 3
1. Lebron, just by using low post he raised his FG% i will not criticize for doing the right play if you see a open man you will pass the ball that is the basic on Basketball lols
2. Durant, he imporoved his all around game and that is good, he is shooting better 3pts
3. sorry call me stupid but Kevin Love deserves alot of credit he improved every year and this year he is showing to his haters why he should be called the best PF in the league
Rubio? On the MVP list? He's shooting 35% From the floor for heavens sake!
Irving is shooting 48% from the floor, and is averaging 19 points per game in 31 minutes.
Still don't think either should be near the top 10.
1. LeBron James - The Heat could probably contend with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and a strong core of role players, but you can't ignore what James is doing this season. He's having arguably the best regular season in NBA history. And he does it at both ends on a nightly basis. He's closed up a big hole in his game, which was playing in the low post.
2. Kevin Durant - He's right behind Kobe Bryant in scoring, but has taken far less shots. He's taken his game to a new level this season averaging career highs in rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. He's rounding out into a complete basketball player and has looked comfortable delivering with the game on the line this season.
3. Derrick Rose - Had he not missed a handfull of games, I'd place him above Durant. The Bulls are a good team without Rose, but they're a championship contending team with him. He's just a special player.
4. Dwight Howard - He's arguably the "most valuable player" to his team. Once he leaves Orlando, the impact will be similar to when James left Cleveland.
And the others:
Tony Parker, Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul
lets see who is in the top 5 in two of the major categories....
Kevin Love?.... yes
im not saying he deserves it but the twolves with the great kahn are a 500 team in the first time since kg and he is putting up ridiculous numbers. i think LeBron will end up getting it but i believe kevin Love deserves a good look
i didn't mention dwight howard because i think they wont even be a top 4 seed, i see philly and atl grabbing the 3rd and 4th seed respectively in the east. but yea his definitely the "most valuable player" to his team. you take dwight outta orl and i think they would be at the bottom of the east.
Kevin Love is having a great season, but his team is barely above .500... They've been +/- a few games .500 all season.
How can you be a MVP on a sub par team?
It's going to shape up to be a three man race with Rose coming on strong late, Durant, and James. Rose is third now though due to the chunk of games he has missed.
IF Derrick Rose finishes strong and Chicago finishes with the best record in the NBA for the second year in a row, it'll be interesting to see how the voting goes.
dude if rose manages to get home-court advantage over the heat, lebron don't deserve mvp
I see alot of negs, but not alot of explaining
@youngdave aamir answered your question. (Even though both don't sniff top 10 MVP candidates) Kyrie Irving is still WAY far ahead than Rubio in a hypothetical MVP race of their own.
Kyrie is playing on another level and has all but locked up the Rookie of the Year award....Meanwhile Rubio is shooting below 27% in March....
Rubio's hit the rookie wall, and ever since the All Star Break Kyrie has bettered Rubio in every single statistical category including steals, rebounds, and assists.
You put Kyrie Irving in the MVP race? He's a lock for ROTY but C'mon MVP? The last rookies to do that were Wilt and Unsled and he's not on thier level at all
is the MVP award given to the best player? Or the most Valuable player?
Someone please explain how Lebron is the guy right now for the MVP award please. He has been incredible and I get it, he is having an epic season, but is he the most VALUABLE? The Heat would still be a top 4 seed in the Eastern Conference.
What team is the best looking there? Are any of those teams contenders? The Heat are still a contending team there.
Right now I would go Durant-Kobe-Lebron-Love and Chris Paul/Dwight Howard
Dont neg me...explain how he is the most valuable
i don't feel like writing but... lebron is more valuable to the heat defense than durant or kobe is to theirs, plays 1 thru 4.... he's the best player on the best team of the league, and there has been little to no games where wade actually outplayed lebron (like we've seen westbrook outplay durant)...putting up legendary numbers with 27.7ppg at .555%... what exactly does durant do better than lebron other than be clutch? lebron dominates him statistically in any category. you cannot underrate westbook/harden and gasol/bynum, KD and kobe also have a good supporting cast.
p.s. i don't think lebron is that far ahead, if mia doesn't get #1 seed and durant gets #1 in the west they should hand it to durant (depending on the situation)
honorable mention: Rose, Paul, Westbrook, Love, and Howard
LeBron is one of the best scorers in the league and a better rebounder, passer,
defender, shot blocker, and defender than KD or Kobe. He is a superstar and one of the
few guys who can play out on the perimeter, on the wing, and inside. Take him off the Heat and they would be
fighting for a playoff spot or worse. Wade has been injured and is having an off year. Bosh is an all-star
but no super star. After that the team is pretty bad with Battier, Haslem, Cole, Chalmers, and Joel Anthony.
Take Durant off the Thunder and I think they would be slightly better than the Heat. Westbrook's a great lead guard
and Harden is a great second option with Ibaka doing his thing with blocks and defense while probably getting more touches.
After that, Collison is about as good as Haslem, Cook is better than James Jones and Kendrick Perkins is better than Joel Anthony.
Kobe is having a great year but he needs to involve the bigs more. Another thing, if LeBron was on the Lakers instead of Kobe they would be
one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the league. LeBron, Pau, and Bynum would be an awesome front line then he would have shooters around him
like Fisher, Blake, Goudelock, and Barnes, plus Metta to back him up at small forward.
I think that KD on the Heat (instead of LBJ) would be nice but LeBron on the Thunder would be awesome.
Westbrook and Harden in the backcourt with Lebron at the 3 and Ibaka and Perkins inside. LBJ and Westbrook
attacking non-stop, Harden hitting jumpers and facilitating with Ibaka patrolling the lanes (on defense and offense)
would be unstoppable. Ibaka would get alley oops from Bron and Cook would get wide open 3's. Perkins could then
concentrate on boxing out and roughing people up.
LeBron is the one guy in the league who could make nearly any team a contender, and has the highest ever PER this year.
Throw in Kevin Love instead of Tony Parker. I know Dwight should be higher, but I think the trade drama hurts him a little so I dropped him to 6th. I had Kobe at 3rd but he and the Lakers are struggling right now, but if he and the Lakers recover like I expect they should, I truly believe it is a three man race between Kobe, LeBron, and Durant.
Heres all I really see in contention...
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Derrick Rose
4. Chris Paul
5. Kevin Love
6. Dwight Howard
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Tony Parker
9. Rajon Rondo
10. Josh Smith (can't believe he wasn't an all-star)
1. I say LeBron James. 27.7 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 6.7 APG and is the ONLY player in most top-5 MVP consideration lists to play both sides of the ball. Durant, Rose, and Bryant aren't exactly shut-down defenders while LeBron's on-ball defense and help-side defense has been incredible this season.
Not to mention, he's shooting a ridiculous 55.% from the field.
2. Kevin Durant - He's leading the Thunder to the best record in the NBA so far.
3. Derrick Rose - Pretty much the same as I said for the Thunder/Durant. He's leading the best team in the east and is playing very well this season.
HM: Kobe Bryant, if the Lakers start winning, he could be back in the top-3 but as of now, he's outside looking-in while the Lakers are on this skid and are 5th in the west.
I think it's too hard to tell at this point, but it's between Durant and Lebron to me. It will come down to who has the best record between the Thunder and the Heat, and probably how they matched up in head-to-heads; normally this isn't considered very much, but given they both play the same position and have equally stacked squads it should be accounted for more than usual.
It's funny, because the term MVP has truely changed since my days of first watching basketball. IMO, take LBJ away from the Heat and the are still 3 in the East, take Durant off of the Thunder, depends Westbrook and Harden may do a decent job with Ibaka but definitely not at the same level. Take Rose off of the bulls, and well, we've already seen that they win. Kobe and Dwight are the 2 guys who put up the numbers needed, and actual impact needed. If you took either guy off of their team, that team would easily be mid lotto, possibly top 3 in Orlando's case. Hell, I can't even think of a 4th person on the Lakers roster who would start for ANY other team in the L.
Ok, take Lebron off Miami and put him on Atlanta and they are favorites to win the finals. Take Durant off the Thunder and put him on Denver and they are title contenders. Just because they play next to good players and are good teams doesn't lower their value, those guys are leading championship contending teams, while Dwight and Kobe are only leading playoff teams without a shot of the finals. If Kobe or Dwight had their teams with top record you'd have a point. There's a reason Miami and OKC have the best records, they have 2 of the best players along with other good players, but Durant and Lebron make their teams contenders and not just another playoff team.
Take Jordan off those Bulls teams (first retirement) and they still should have made at least the Conference Finals (top 3 in East at worst, top 4 in NBA). Clearly, Jordan wasn't all that special and shouldn't have been given the MVPs he was.
Right now, the voting should go...
Switch LeBron with any other player in the league...the Heat get worse, the other team gets better. You just can't ignore how far superior he has been to everyone else in the league statistically this season. Not to mention he is probably the best perimeter defender in the league, and miles ahead of guys like D-Rose, Durant or Paul in this category. We can criticize him all we want for passing the ball at the end of the games, choking in the playoffs, or wearing his headband to hide his receding hairline, but you can't pretend like he's not the most valuable player in the league right now.
IF you switch LeBron with Dwight Howard, are you sure the Heat get worse?
My guess is that best case, the Heat might stay the same, but I think the Magic would get a lot better.
I have to think that Dwight's supporting cast is better than any supporting cast the Cavs ever had around LeBron.
IF you put Dwight on the Heat instead of LeBron, they're a better team BY FAR.
I don't think it would change the fact that Mario Chalmers is their fourth best player. I don't see how it makes them a better team BY FAR. They're a very good team capable of winning the NBA Finals right now. I don't think Dwight Howard makes them a lock to win the title.
Yes, Iggy, the award has never actually been just for the team that got the most "value" from a player. Heck if it was most valuable player, then the answer so far for this season is Jeremy Lin. He saved the Knicks season and is going to justify a $70 million team payroll by getting them into the playoffs while selling $100 million in jerseys and other gear. The kid has been as valuable as any player in the league.
If it was value compared to performance without the player, then D. Howard would win most years because he has a mediocre team around him which can't win without him.
But MVP is really about the best player in the league, who is causing his team to have a really good record. You cannot win if your team isn't in the top eight of all teams in the league.
This year Lebron is far ahead of everyone. Rose won last year and nobody wants a back to back MVP who might not even be the best player at his position. The league has had to live down the Nash votes for long enough.
Miami would be better with Dwight Howard. LeBron is a better player, but not as good of a fit. They already have a great wing scorer in D-Wade and Bosh/Howard compliment eachother down low extrememly well. LeBron going to the Magic would make them worse because the whole team is anchored around having a dominant big man on offense and defense. Without Dwight, the Magic are one of the worst defensive teams in basketball. The spread offense they run wouldn't work as well either becuase there isn't the threat of a big taking over. Again LeBron is a better player, but a worse fit in those situations.