Mr.Knicks's top 50 players right now
Roy and Bosh are like the exact same level player. Neither has gotten past the 1st round, and neither is a superstar who can carry a team, so I won't put either in my top 10. But I do think that Bosh gets the slight edge. Bosh has a chance to prove he's the best PF in the game if he has a stronger season and outplays Gasol when they match up head-to-head.
If you can't get past the 1st round of the playoffs, you can't carry a team. I feel like if you switched Brandon Roy on the Raptors, they would either just miss the playoffs or they wouldn't advantage past the 1st round. The same thing happened with Bosh. Therefore, they are the same level player and can't be depended on to truly carry a team.
portalnd has been a walking mash unit. Every week someone is going on the injury list. Hard to really judge roy trying to get out of a very tough west with the injuries to both himself and the team. I truly do believe he could be the best player on a title team. He would need a lot of help, but he impacts the game in so many ways and gets into the paint and sets up his teammates. Bosh is a very good player, but i have never in 7 years of wathicng him play thought "uh oh, dont let bosh get the ball hes gonna give it to us tonight." He's just not a reliable go to player who makes his whole team better.
I think Dirk and Nash are better than Roy because in my opinion they have a greater impact on the game. Roy is a great player it's just that I think his game has some limitations. He just doesn't have the starpower and potential to get to the level of the best players in the league.
Hope my post was a little realistic.
"I'm saying, generally...your list is terrible"
Tell me where I guaranteed a good list? It was a list built on the spot to be honest. But you kknow what? You can build your list where Roy is #1, Aldridge is #2 and Camby is #3. It's a opinions list. It's my opinion.
Roy is a good player I don't doubt that but Bosh is better. I doubt Roy will be too much better then OJ Mayo next season.
Also, go look at the teams Bosh went to the playoffs with. Those teams were pure bull&$#%#&@!.
I'd personally take Bosh over Roy. It's extremely close as I said, but Bosh is a threat. YOU may not have that "Bosh was gonna kill someone tonight", but Bosh is a player coaches have to heavily game-plan for, and he still gets you 20 and 10 on a borderline playoff team. Not many can say that. No doubt he's a top 15 player. Roy is no doubt a fantastic player, but if you have to have a true 2nd option for him to be a title contending piece. They had injuries, but I don't think Roy can be a top 10 player in the NBA. Over who exactly?
Kevin Durant led the NBA in scoring and he's 21. He's better than Brandon Roy. He didn't get OKC past the 1st round (AGAINST THE NBA CHAMPIONS), but I'm willing to bet OKC makes it past the 1st round in his 2nd try. Roy didn't make it in either of his 1st 2 tries. And he was a middle seeded playoff team.
i didnt say top 10, just one guy on knicksboy list i would put him ahead of would be bosh. Im just not that high on bosh. Roy has the ability to takeover games and i dont think bosh does. And i dont mean that just from a stats standpoint. Also, roy hasnt been in the league as long so we will have to wait a little bit before we can really say what he can or cant do in the playoffs. 4years, and when you are in the west and dealing with multiple injuries, is too early for me to hold playoff succes or lack there of to a real high standard.
" Roy is no doubt a fantastic player, but if you have to have a true 2nd option for him to be a title contending piece"
So Bosh can carry a team better? Because he's clearly shown he can't. I agree, it's close, but I don't see how you can't give the edge to Roy. And to answer over who, it's tough to say. Sometimes I always flip flop between Roy and Williams, Melo.
I just think it's hard to say that Roy can't carry a team. He's been in the playoffs twice and in one of them he just came off surgery. Give him 2 more playoff appearances to say that he can't carry a team in the playoffs because he's shown that he can carry a team through the regular season.
......Now you know Brandon Roy isn't better than Deron Williams or Carmelo Anthony. Come one man.
I haven't said 1 time that Bosh has carried a team. In fact, I said the opposite of that ("Neither has gotten past the 1st round, and neither is a superstar who can carry a team, so I won't put either in my top 10."). All good players can carry a team throughout the regular season well, but to me Roy isn't a top 10 player untill he shows he can advance Portland past the 1st round and show strong in the 2nd round before I make him a top 10 player. He's a top 15 player until then.
Many limitations. Both of those players are proven. I think Nowitzki is slightly better because he is just unstoppable because of his versatility. Nash is alot better though. He makes his teammates soo much better and he just does things very few people can do.
Knick, shut up please. Your a knicks fan. Nuff said.
OUCH!!!!!! Damn. If it makes this riff better between us: Portland has had overrated talent, made the wrong choice on Oden and will not win a title in the near future.
Hope we could be cool :)
"OUCH!!!!!! Damn. If it makes this riff better between us: Portland has had overrated talent, made the wrong choice on Oden and will not win a title in the near future.
Hope we could be cool :)"
Lol we can be cool. Just not on this topic. And, to be honest, yes...There are times where I have overvalued my team/players, but who hasn't? I'm sure there are plenty of times where you have done the same thing. Really didn't want to come at you like that.
Truce?
You overrate your whole team. So don't come at me...You thought LBJ was going to the Knicks. Nope. You think there's always a chance that some superstar wants to play for your team (no, Amare is not a superstar)
Damn...your just wrong this night? Pretty sure I named the players connected to NY ( Melo, James and Paul were all connected with NY). Yep, I wasn't alone with ppl who thought LBJ was NY bound.
You should just logout now before you pass on that case of stupidity that you have on to other forum members.
Damn...your just wrong this night? Pretty sure I named the players connected to NY ( Melo, James and Paul were all connected with NY). Yep, I wasn't alone with ppl who thought LBJ was NY bound.
You should just logout now before you pass on that case of stupidity that you have on to other forum members.
Well, you DID say that the Knicks were quietely the favorites when nobody really did (generally speaking). Of course some people agreed with you, but I'd say over 50% of those people were Knicks fans.
Brandon Roy > Chris Bosh
Neither player is a superstar, but they're both elite players at their positions.
I'd take Roy. He hasn't led his team past the first round yet, but he's only been to the playoffs twice. The Blazers are still very young. They lost to a tough Rockets team in the first round in 2009. They lost to a very good Suns squad this year, while also being obliterated by injuries. Roy wasn't even close to being healthy either.
It's close, but I'd take Roy. I think he's a better closer and all-around player.
LL....
You would. I wouldn't.