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  • #68640
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    jonus grumby
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     Rumor is Porter is cancelling workouts because he does not want individual team doctors checking him out.  Rumor is he has a hip injury.

    reported on WSCR radio (Bulls broadcast station) Chicago

     

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  • #1119447
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    Arc12345
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    If that’s the case I can’t see how any team can justify taking him in the lottery besides the Clippers since they can roll the dice with their two picks.

    Shocking if it’s true.

      

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    • #1119449
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      draftmangt
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       I still can’t see him falling past Cleveland, if Lebron is out I think they have to swing for the fences at 8

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    • #1119501
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      brodiejay
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      I dunno… I think his talent level is pretty obvious. Injuries happen. Kyrie Still went number one. Embiid was still picked 3rd. NBA teams know Porter’s potential from seeing him in high school.

      I don’t think a hip injury would scare teams away from drafting him. The back injury though… could be a deal-breaker, dependant upon the severity. A young guy with back problems is usually a bad sign. I know that from personal experience.

      I was a successful athlete as a youngster and represented my state (in Australia) in mutliple sports. I was super fit and healthy but when I was 17, I hurt my back and needed surgery. Scans revealed my discs are really crappy and my back has been shitty ever since.

      Not saying Porter has the same thing going on (I haven’t heard details of what his initial injury was) but if it’s anything like mine, he might NEVER pass a physical to the degree that an NBA team would  be satisfied. I’m concerned he may have similar disc degeneration if he’s so wary of letting teams see his results?!?!

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      • #1119526
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        Kwame33
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         I remember reading somewhere that his particular injury has a low rate of reoccurrence.

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  • #1119448
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    Lotto Stud
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     All it takes is one team to fall in love still on the potential. Jared Sullinger slid hard because of injuries if I recall correctly. Also, could it be his way or the Bulls’ organization to promise him at that spot as well, despite the injury risk?

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    • #1119451
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      SubZero
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      Them or the Knicks, I would think

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  • #1119455
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Scary. Could be spasms from his back. But the scary thing is he might turn in to Embiid…. One GM came out today and said that. MPJ is hard to figure out. Back injuries are serious.

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    • #1119457
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      Arc12345
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      I’m in the medical field, won’t say what level but the spasms wouldn’t directly cause a hip injury like they’re reporting.

      He most likely had bad hips along with his bad back that predisposed him to this injury, especially at such a young age.

       

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      • #1119482
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        -Aria-
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        Hate to contradict you here, but its very common for spinal injuries to lead to radiating pain and a general sense of myastenia, which could lead to him straining his hip, due to over compensating. 

         

        Ofc like with the Embiid injury, I can’t say anything for sure without actually interviewing and examining MPJ, but its very well in the relms of reasonable and possible. Spinal injuries can lead to a whole slew of issues, and damaged nerves is just one of them. Not to mention that treatment for his injury could have damaged nerves as well.

         

         

         

         

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        • #1119503
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          Agreed. Teams aren’t going to be worried about muscle spasms?!?! Not sure why that would even be brought up.

          I speak from 18 years of experience living with a spinal injury. It’s very common for people with spinal injuries to have associated sciatic or neuropathic pain in their legs and hips. In fact, that’s one criteria for spinal surgery. If he had just localised pain in his back, they wouldn’t have performed invasive surgery. Back surgery is a last-resort treatment… in that they only do it if they absolutely HAVE to.

          I’ve had two spinal surgeries and have had plenty of issues with my legs and hips as a result.

          Our bodies are complex connected systems. Remember, as Dr Nick Riviera explained – "The red thing’s connected to my wristwatch."

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          • #1119505
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            Arc12345
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            Okay, I understand what you’re saying. Obviously your back is incredibly related to your hips and legs, as the sciatic nerve comes off right in the sacral region.

            I’ve also had back surgery (discetomy and laminotomy at l4-l5 and l5-s1).

            All I’m saying is, back spasms would not directly cause him to have a hip injury as someone was saying. But like I said, having a bad back predisposes you to having bad hips and leg problems. Hope this makes sense.

              

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            • #1119524
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              Arc12345
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              He’s actually been cleared to resume his pro day. What they reported is that he was having hip spasms.

              This could be from a variety of things, including piriformis syndrome, weak muscles around the hips, etc. I know it’s hip spasms, but I wouldn’t call this a “hip injury” yet as he could have been just cramping, dehydrated, etc. So the “back spasms” wouldn’t have caused a “hip injury” in my opinion. It’s really just splitting hairs. 

              It certainly could have been related to his back, the surgery, or just something entirely different. I have really enjoyed this medical talk.

               

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  • #1119462
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    This and the Kings are reportedly stll considering taking him. I swear if the Kings draft this kid at 2 over Luka Vlade and Vivek have solidified themselves as the worst front office in the league. 

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  • #1119464
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    Memphis Madness
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     If you watch some of his stuff from BEFORE his injury he still doesn’t look that great.

    Think Pete Maravich’s ego, lack of defense, shot selection and frame but without the ball handling, passing, or even the flair. 

    Porter looks SOMEWHAT flashy but he takes a TON of contested jumpers. 

    Would be a solid bench guy for the Rockets as a stretch 4/stretch 5 to take over for Ryan Anderson.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119468
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     It could also be that MPJ submitted a health report to all teams after he had a physical and after Pro day, like he said he would do, but he just doesn’t want other teams to do their own physicals, because he’s scared of what they might find. His back must not be all the way healed, but at the same time he doesn’t want to scare teams away from drafting him. So he’s saying “I’m healthy, why check me out again? I know Memphis will select him if Doncic is not available at 4, so he might also be trying to restrict his workouts to just teams within picks 4-8, again in an effort not to disclose too much and because he might have a promise with Memphis at 4, Chicago at 7 or Cleveland at 8.

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  • #1119502
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    Bankroll PJ
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     Is it possible he has a promise for a team in the lottery and his agent is just throwing out health concerns to dissuade other teams from drafting him?

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